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Caller: I wanted to ask Drew, you've been doing "Loveline" what, fourteen years?
Drew: Plus.
Caller: Fourteen plus.
Drew: Mmmm.
Caller: I was wondering, what are some of the major ways it's changed since it started? And, um, yeah. Mostly for the good, some bad, you know. What do you think about the way it's... What are some of the ways it's changed? And like...
Drew: The program, or the kinds of calls we get?
Caller: Say what?
Drew: The program? I mean, Adam's now the host.
Adam: Well, I can tell you, it's taken a turn for the boring, now, Michael.
Drew: Right, just this minute. But Adam used to be a listener. He could actually tell you more, even -- probably -- because it's hard for me to be objective about it. You know what I'm saying?
Adam: Listen, I watched a videotape from 1984 -- no, 1984, '85 -- of us calling this show up.
Drew: You and your screwball friends.
Adam: Yeah. On a video.
Drew: That's when the show was on Sunday nights, midnight to three A.M. in Los Angeles only.
Adam: All right. Well Drew, so let me ask you this: What year did you start on this show?
Drew: '84. Actually, '83.
Adam: Nineteen eighty-three, everybody. So, nineteen years. Maybe plus. All right. And this show went to five nights a week when? Do you remember when that was?
Drew: Eight years ago?
Adam: Naw, I think it was five nights a week for a few years before I got here.
Drew: Oh, yes, you're right. A couple years.
Adam: Could of been three years. Huh? I think it's coming on, like, ten years of five nights a week. I mean, Rikki was five nights a week, wasn't he?
Drew: That was two-and-a-half years, yeah.
Adam: He was here two-and-a-half years?
Drew: Yeah.
Adam: Jesus Christ, I've been here, like, three times as long as Rikki Rachtman?
Drew: Oh yeah.
Adam: I gotta kill myself. All right. Well, the point is...
Drew: Yeah, you're right. Probably ten years.
Adam: You've been doing this show ten years every night.
Drew: Ooooh.
Adam: All right. How's it changed, Drew?
Drew: It sucks now.
Adam: [Laughs.] There you go, Michael. All right. Good times, buddy.
Drew: Naw, we could do a whole program on that.
Adam: Yeah, but it's also hard to see how... You wanna know how someone or something has changed, don't take a look at it for five years, and then see how fat your friend got, or how much hair fell out, or how gray they went.
Drew: Right. It's hard when you're in it consistently. That's why I was hoping you could say more about how it's changed, because you were a listener before you got on here.
Adam: Well, I mean, I think the show definitely used to be less of me yapping about the gays. That would be one.
Drew: Oh, before you got here.
Adam: Yeah. Before I got here. Yeah.
Drew: But you've actually been reining that in since you've been here, though.
Adam: The show was body-er, and a little naughtier, and it wasn't.... It was a little more screwball sorta sex, it was like, wilder. It was more exciting.
Drew: Really?
Adam: Maybe a little more boring. No. I think you and I are both interested in psychology a little more than past hosts have been, wouldn't you say?
Drew: Yeah. And my job in the past was much more about making sure no harm was done. And now we have a little more room to do other stuff. Seems to me.
Adam: Right. And he used to like the callers, too.
Drew: And the host. And the co-host.
Adam: Now he hates them. Now he hates them more than I do.