The
Loveline
Companion

This is the place to report any problems you encounter with the site.

—Silent Virgin

Hey SV, I've been seeing something that might be a bug; Just a minute ago I loaded up the forum, and it showed 2 threads with new posts so I clicked on the first one and read the new addition, then I clicked "Forum" so I could go to the second new thread, but for some reason both the thread I had just read, and the other I hadn't read yet were marked as old (were grey) - instead of leaving the second unread thread marked as new (blue). I've seen this twice. Hopefully my description makes sense.

—Kevin U.

All right, that does it -- I'm going to have to re-install Virtual PC on my Mac so I can see what Windows users are experiencing. (Heck, I should probably just buy a Dell or something someday...) But right now, I'm not exactly sober so a fix probably isn't forthcoming (I'm with Adam on liking the red wine :-) But thanks, Kevin. It is almost certainly a bug... I'm assuming just about everybody but me is using Internet Explorer on Windows? At least, that's what the site stats show. Although Mike (not-the-first) says he uses Netscape... whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist! (Anybody using Opera? Safari? Mosaic? Lynx? Cyberdog?)

Okay, I'm going to stop writing right now before I embarrass myself still further...

—Silent Virgin

Mozilla?

—Osmosis

Mozilla? Aw, in my head, that's the same thing as Netscape Navigator. ;-)

Kevin -- actually, this doesn't sound like what you are describing, but I thought I should mention it anyway... I've said that "new" messages are messages that were posted since your last visit, and everything else is "old". Well, the more technically minded of you may have wondered, what constitues a "visit"? As you may have discovered, if you log out and then log back in, that counts as a new "visit". But what if you never log out? And what if you checked "remember my login and password" so that you never have to login?

A: There is a one-hour timeout. If you don't click on any forum links for one hour, you will automatically be "logged out".

If you didn't select "remember login", this effect is obvious, because the next time you hit refresh or click something, your name will disappear from the top-right hand corner of the page; and, in order to post, you must log back in.

If you did select "remember login", when you come back to your computer after an hour or more, you are still "logged out", but the instant you click something or hit "refresh", you are automatically logged back in. This updates your "last login" time and marks threads that haven't changed since you walked away from the computer as "old" -- even though, in some sense, you never left.

Anyway, as I was waking up this morning, it struck me that one might see an effect similar to what Kevin describes if they were clicking links on a stale copy of the main page -- i.e., one that your browser loaded over an hour ago. But that doesn't sound like the bug Kevin is seeing :-(

—Silent Virgin

First off, great job, SV! Really nice work. This isn't a bug, really, but more of a question...is there a way to change our passwords after we've set up the account?

Thanks.

—Flatvurm

Flatvurm - Check out the "Settings" link on the main forum index, there should be a password change form in there.
SV - I think that bug I reported last night was actually my fault... I've been thinking about it a bit, and I assume that not much has changed since the Beta - so I figured it might have been something that changed on my end. Then I remembered that yesterday I changed the security settings of Cookies in my browser (I recently formatted and have just yesterday gotten around to customizing my security settings again). I think the new settings weren't allowing the site to access the cookie correctly. I will do a bit of checking, but I am pretty sure this was the problem - I am sorry if I gave you a headache trying to figure out why it wasn't working - and for anyone's future reference, give dolland.net permission to override security settings if you have them set really high!

—Kevin U.

Right you are, Kev. Thanks. :)

—Flatvurm

First, I'd just like to say that you rock SV, great job on the new forum. But I seem to have found a problem -- When I log on from somewhere besides my house, it does not seem to have saved my time zone, so it shows it as PST rather than EST.

—Thomas/Frope

Oh, and my bad -- I should've posted this under "Bugs" =-P

—Thomas/Frope

I'm pretty sure the time zone info is stored locally in the site cookie, so you would have to set it at each new location in which you view the forum.

—Kevin U.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or if it's my computer, but when i use IE to view TLC it still has the old forum and old clip of the week in the main page and when i use netscape it's current and up to date.

—Meatwad

Try clearing your cache(s). Also try CTRL+Refresh (CTRL+F5)

—NJC

Kevin is correct; the time zone is attached to the machine, not your personal user settings. I figured people are more moble than computers (unless it's a laptop or something). Not that "Loveline" fans are jumping on transcontinental flights all the time...

I was also thinking of multiple users sharing the same machine, in which case the time zone would only have to be set once.

It seems like the time zone should be something that the browser passes along to the server when making an HTTP request, or maybe there could be a <time> HTML tag, which would enclose time in GMT, which the browser would format according to the user's local computer settings... but -- alas! -- I am not in charge of the WWW design committee or whoever decides these things ;-)

And as you can see, I can rearrange messages into different threads rather easily :-)

—Silent Virgin

Perhaps it would be possible to attach the time zone settings to the user preferences rather than store them in a cookie?

—Thomas/Frope

None of the Sound bits will download. Error 404 on Both Opera and IE. I even tryed save target as... but it would only do HTML and no .mp3

it's not my stuff. I'm 95% sure of it.

Bug?

—REMLAP7

MoreJelloPlease reported a similar problem recently (Sound & MP3 Problems?!).

I'm especially perplexed by this error message posted by X da C:

Not Found
The requested URL /~dolland.net/loveline/sound/drops/shutup.mp3 was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.29 Server at stcroix.globat.com Port 80

Is this the kind of error message everyone is getting? Do the people who are having problems have any extra Internet software installed (e.g., Norton Internet Security)? Do none of the following links work for you?

Shut Up!

Shut Up!

Shut Up!

Also: Mac, Windows, or Linux?

—The Mastermind

All of them work for me. I'm using Windows XP.

Wheee, that's a rhyme. I wish I could do that all the time.

—Dark Laith

They all work for me, Mac OS.

BUT, when the problem was first reported I got the same error message trying to download the clip of the week.

I just assumed it was a bandwidth limitation - and they had been made unavailable. I tried a few hours later, and it was still down. Got the clip the next day with no problem

—Laxdude

They didn't work for me. Windows XP. (HTTP 404 Page not found)

—Dusty TheHick

shitlick is a bug. got raid?

—plurry

PLEASE?

—Dusty TheHick

—ZT-In-Bosco

^I still don't get it.

—Dusty TheHick

The amount of effort Plurry puts in to focusing on me is inversely proportional to the amount of ______ in his mothers ______.

—ZIP IT YA NAG!

sugar; cookies?

—mandee

I love Plurry's mama's cookies.

—acm323

—000

He's black...

...SHAWWWWWWWWWWKING!

—ZIP IT YA NAG!

thank you for removing the bug.

—plurry

sometimes i get logged off for no reason

—whoisnumbaone

maybe someone is trying to tell you something.

—plurry

I think I've logged on about 20 times this year, the majority of which were either on separate browsers or different computers.
how often, whois?

—jizzgrenade

This year as in 2009?I have to login every time I turn the computer on. Or if I log in before midnight, I have to login again at midnight for some gay reason.

—anfernee