I think tattoos and piercings on girls are fuckin HOTTT
Now Im not saying that a girl is automatically hot if she has crazy tattoos, what Im saying is that if they are already kinda cute the tattoos will push her into the hottt territory. Maybe add about 1 - 2 numbers to her scrore if done properly.
a couple of strategically placed tattoos (around the hips is sexiest, IMO) can add to her allure. piercings, meh.
i would argue, though, that it doesn't add to a girls number. a tattoo or two can NOT make a 6 an 8. just no way. quite the opposite, in fact - if a 9 got all tatted up, like sleeved her arms and such, her number would FALL in my book.
the redhead had a couple small tattoos, one on each hip. they would *just* peek out of her jeans, and when she wore a bikini... pretty sessy.
Once in awhile they look okay on a guy, but I'd stay away from a guy with tattoos because I can't help but assume it means he engages in yucky stuff like smoking and IV drugs.
I changed the password to my most recent screen name and now I can't remember it, and this was the only old screen name i remembered the password to. I didn't want to make a new screen name because that would have meant setting up a new email address just for that screen name, and I don't want to do that.
i had to recently talk my roommate out of getting an abraham lincoln tattoo on her leg. she bought a t-shirt instead. my friend has a dr pepper tattoo on her foot, but i guess it's fitting because she really likes dr. pepper.
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I used to assume tattoos and piercings on chicks mean "game on" and proceed accordingly. This policy never failed me. I always forget my wife has a tattoo.
Once in awhile they look okay on a guy, but I'd stay away from a guy with tattoos because I can't help but assume it means he engages in yucky stuff like smoking and IV drugs. —doingdoingdoing
Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM Edited Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 3:38 PM
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i'm convinced people use tattoos and piercings as a way to attract others with similar pathologies and to attract those who desire to exploit them.
i've dated two girls with aggressive piercings, one of them also had a few tats.
what were their backgrounds?
selfish, materialistic, controlling, manipulative mother. emotionally unavailable, profound addict/alcoholic father. completely dysfunctional all the way around.
Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 6:48 PM Edited Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 6:53 PM
I used to assume tattoos and piercings on chicks mean "game on" and proceed accordingly. This policy never failed me. I always forget my wife has a tattoo.
—bguirk
deffinitely with you on the "game on" feeling; that or she probably swallows(not that i care, by the way) I too always forget she has one, and it always sorta surprises me when i see it, but it definitely doesn't do anything for her looks; then again i only see it when were already naked, so all first inpressions are off...
I've always liked the tattoo above the ass, or the on the neck; but again, it's just because i think i have a better chance with them. it's also much closer to my appreciation for art, as opposed to women
with some girls the piercings really fit their personality, like an eyebrow ring, and sometimes a lip or nose-ring, never a tongue right, that just screams out "fat chick"; but it's like nailpolish, not gonna win me, and it's probably not a dealbreaker, though in excess it can be
Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 7:02 PM Edited Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 7:08 PM
I always forget my wife has a tattoo. - bguirk
I too always forget she has one, and it always sorta surprises me when i see it, but it definitely doesn't do anything for her looks; then again i only see it when were already naked, so all first inpressions are off... jizz
Whoa, why the fuck are you getting naked with bguirk's wife?
Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 7:17 PM Edited Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 7:19 PM
for comedy and confusions sake, i won't edit it... but yes i somehow must have deleted the previous sentence when editing it, it basically said that my girlfriend has a heart tattoo'd on her crotch.
damnit that woulda been a good joke though... "yea man that first time i saw her naked, what a surprise. still gets me sometimes though, she does say it remind her of her husband... i think it looks good though; really helps her ass eh?"
Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 7:24 PM Edited Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 7:42 PM
^hahaha yea i'd always gotten the feeling she had something happen to her, her parents are amazing though, turns out she's just bipolar.
not like over her vag, a bit above and to the right of the "landing strip", so peaking out of a bikini bottom, depending. but yea, pretty dumb eh? she got it done when she was 15 at some shady place in the city, 3 or 4 months ago i guess (KIDDING). i always said she had to be the first virgin they'd ever worked on. why? she's kind of impulsive, i think she was drunk, and she was hanging out with her crazy friend, who is luckily out of her life. pointless, yes; she wanted a tattoo, and a heart was the best thing she could think of.
with some girls the piercings really fit their personality, like an eyebrow ring, and sometimes a lip or nose-ring, never a tongue right, that just screams out "fat chick"
do you really need piercings to tell that someone is fat?
Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 11:11 PM Edited Saturday, June 7, 2008 at 11:12 PM
do you really need piercings to tell that someone is fat?
i guess i meant they're trying to make up for something, maybe they feel fat. but again, i'm not saying that's the truth, it's just my impression, which i know is wrong
yea anfernee that happened to me once, where i thought i was posting something right under another post, and it turned out two other people had posted before me; the tlc:forum has it's ways....
at 15 years old, this chick drops her panties for some weirdo in a bad part of town so she can get a tattoo near her crack? plus, she's drunk at the time and purportedly bi-polar. yet, her parents are "amazing".
i know a girl who's father molested her while her drunk mother pretended like it wasn't happening for years. she thinks her parents are great too.
this is my untrained opinion: i think bi-polar is all too often a bullshit diagnoses for trauma/PTS victims who won't 'fess up to profound abuse.
anyone here with any sort of experience feel this way as well?
i knew a girl who's parents (they were deeply religious, of course - dad was an alcoholic/vicodin addict. mom was cold and controlling) spanked her until she was 16. she ended up acting very bi-polar with the classic highs and lows, but she didn't "cycle".
she was a cutter and ended up with a tattoo on her wrist.
she was into something else i see with girls surviving childhood trauma, she liked to run long distances, said she liked the "high". also, she was a workaholic with work and school. she could go without sleep and function at a high level. she just wouldn't stop "going".
classically, she was very selfless and picked shady, slackers to date. she is an awesome, sweet girl. when we first met, i deconstructed her, and she didn't like me much because she didn't like what i had to say about her parents and why she behaved the way she did. but after being around each other for a few months, she came around and began to accept some of the truth. i helped her feel "ok" about being angry with her parents, and helped to steer her away from all the religious brainwashing she was subjected to.
damn, now that i think of her, i really, really liked her. very smart, very mechanically inclined. great with her hands. she moved away, and i miss her. she was keeper material, but i never had a shot. i'm not sure why considering some stoner guy in a band got her. i think i landed in friendsville early because i talked to her a lot without ever coming on to her unlike every other guy who said more than two words to her. or something else, hell, i don't know.
i had a convo with my gf last night, and from it came an idea.
i want a government grant to study what percentage of females with "tramp stamps" were hit/spanked by hand and/or an object as children. i'd also like to know what percentage suffered sexual abuse. those tats in particular suggest welcomed sexual objectivity.
i think the tramp stamp is the big tell as far as abuse. my theory is that the "stamp", subconsciously, is for daddy to see while he hits her even though she's grown past the point of being spanked.
like.. every butterfly or fairy tramp stamp is actually a big, middle finger for dad to see as he swats away.
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:39 AM Edited Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM
yea... interesting point of view, and likely true for many women.
first, the didn't actually have to drop her panties, she just wore a low pair. though that probably wasn't your biggest point.
her parents are actually very nice, dispite your disapproval; they were very upset when they found the tattoo, and immediately got her into therapy, because they is some history of addiction in her family, though neither of her parents are alcoholics. they both went to UCs, both employed.
she got like a 2270 on the SAT's, and she got into ucsc, though i suppose that doesn't mean much. but, she doesn't drink anymore, no additional tattoos, she's on mood stabilizers, and she's in therapy. I have a bad habit of trying to fix people, i've dated a lot of girls that were depressed.
and plurry, yes i agree, like adhd, bipolar is probably often misdiagnosed, but it would be incredibly ignorant to presume that all, or even the vast majority, are fake. you are right though, i've always sorta wondered about her, and i'm always looking for hints, but from what i understand she's had a normal upbringing, but i would not be totally surprised to find out that something happened,
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM Edited Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM
i want a government grant to study what percentage of females with "tramp stamps"
I agree that it's at least interesting, but it's also a hard thing to study because there was about 5 minutes there where literally anyone between 18-30 were getting tattoos. On the spectrum of chicks I know all of the well adjusted, good parents, daddy didn't hit me ones leading relatively balanced lives have ink. Usually it's on a shoulder or an ankle or something, but I could see a number of tramp stamps being part of that trend.
None of the nutty addict chicks I've dated have a tat and only one had a piercing (nose).
it would be incredibly ignorant to presume that all, or even the vast majority, are fake
First off - he didn't say all or even the vast majority - he said "all too often" - that could even just be a significant minority of cases (though I wouldn't be surprised if it broke 50%).
Second, misdiagnosed isn't the same as fake - just that whoever did the diagnosing misinterpreted the presentation as bi-polar (not that bi-polar is even a single disorder or an actual medical diagnosis).
Finally, it doesn't have to be that it's being misdiagnosed - people could legitimately be bi-polar due to their abusive upbringing.
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM Edited Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 11:20 AM
yea your right i shoulda said something to acknowledge him having a point... maybe something like "and plurry, yes i agree, like adhd, bipolar is probably often misdiagnosed, but it would be incredibly ignorant to presume that all, or even the vast majority, are fake. you are right though"
sorry, i felt he was implying that my gf had been misdiagnosed, as it turns out i was wrong i guess
now that we're on the topic on symantics, i never said that he was saying that all or most are fake, i just said that that would be an ignorant opinion.
You didn't say it, but it sure felt like that was what you were implying.
Not that there's any real point in arguing that (partly because I've got to leave soon but mostly because I don't think we have enough of a fundamental disagreement to bother with).
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 11:30 AM Edited Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 11:38 AM
hahah yea, good call, it was implied, as i imagine plurry's comment may have been.
yea i got work soon too bleh
anobody, though, i gotta say u are right brother, no point in arguing this one, im never gonna come to the realization that my gf is a crazy traumatized alcoholic, and many of you would never accept that she may just have genetic bipolar disorder. the alcoholic part we've accepted btw
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 11:38 AM Edited Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 11:43 AM
*edit* I can believe that she could just randomly have a bi-polar disorder or even alcoholism... but the odds really are strongly in Plurry's favor (there's probably some serious history there if you care to dig around and find it).
On the other hand, if you're having fun, then as long as you don't get her pregnant, I'd say "game on".
You're both young and you probably won't be together nearly long enough for her to work out whatever issues she may have, and you pressing her to do so isn't going to accomplish anything other than creating conflict and maybe precipitating a bit of a shame spiral.
but megan fox tattoos are SO AWFUL
So true.
Perfect example of graffiti taking an 8 to a 6.
I don't want to defend tramp stamps but at least when they're done in moderation, they can draw your eyes and have some aesthetic appeal to them.
Even big ones that cover an entire back or arm can be passably decent looking, and when they don't, I can still appreciate that they had some sort of coherent artistic vision or concept that they were trying to convey.
It's when you start haphazardly throwing around a bunch of random doodles wherever you can find empty skin, that you get to a point where it just looks like an unorganized group of imbeciles tagged a Chagall.
plurry says that everyone has been abused or is a victim for any reason. you could say my gf really likes ketchup and he would say that's because as a child her parents ignored her and would never get her ketchup when she asked if she could have some, so she's trying to make up for it now. the more he claims that people have been abused, the more likely he is to be correct.
Tattoos and piercings are common among poor people and brave people. Most of the middle class adults I know had horrible childhoods and are horrible people yet none of them have any tattoos or piercings, except maybe the ears. So abuse doesn't equal tattoos and piercings. But do piercings and tattoos equal abuse? Well, let's disregard everyone in Polynesia and South Asia. Everyone and their grandmother has a tattoo or nose ring or something there. Right, so forget them. I have a cousin who has a nose ring, tongue stud and labret piercing. She used to have one of those forehead things that Gwen Stefani had in the Just A Girl video but not for long. She is really sweet and nice. She's not acting out, she's not selfish, she's not psychotic and she's not mentally ill.
Well, let's disregard everyone in Polynesia and South Asia. Everyone and their grandmother has a tattoo or nose ring or something there. Right, so forget them.
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:30 PM Edited Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
thanks anobody, while it's hard to know what i'll do that advice, it was helpful. and thanks mandee for pointing that out haha
and drake that's really interesting, i sorta wonder if that's it now
EDIT: but i actually imagine he meant still abusing drugs during diagnosis, i've heard him say you can't diagnose psychological disorders when somebody's on drugs. my gf had been showing bipolar tendencies for a while, and the medication's really helping, so i hope that's not it, but i will keep that in mind
Monday, June 9, 2008 at 1:04 PM Edited Monday, June 9, 2008 at 1:04 PM
The genetic portion of addiction is a prerequisite, and thus just one component of the disease. It does make the development of addiction quite likely, and "true" addiction can't occur without it, but the presence of that genetic makeup does not guarantee addiction in and of itself. There are other factors to account for (such as trauma histories).
So how do they differentiate between people who are addicts and people who are weak? You know, medically speaking. Cuz being misdiagnosed would be soooo embarrassing!
addicts stay preoccupied with their drug of choice even after years of sobriety. those people have to learn to live with and manage some powerful "voice" or "drive" in their head that isn't going anywhere and persistently suggests using is a wonderful idea.
those who lack the gene were only physically dependent. they don't have the trouble with the preoccupation/"voice"/drive that leads others to/towards relapse after detox.
however, someone with poor coping skills/mechanisms that lack the gene, may keep returning to alcohol or whatever because they can't figure (read: they don't get the therapy they need) how to regulate their mood and emotion as those of average to good emotional health.
it would take someone well trained in the field to see the fine line with that scenario.
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 6:57 AM Edited Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 6:57 AM
I like SuicideGirls. Cute cute cute.
I'm undecided, I think. I'm sort of off sex at the moment, so nobody looks hot to me. Except maybe Clive Owen or Zooey Deschanel. Neither of whom has piercings...I think?
I liked them too until they took their wonderful company from Portland to LA. I think they're cute cute cute in spite of their mods, but it's definitely not a deal breaker. Actually I don't know. I've been off the market for so long I don't know what a deal breaker would be now.
She is hot enough and hers' are unobtrusive enough that she can pull them off but she is still a perfect example of how badly you can fuck up someone who is beautiful with some ugly, haphazard graffiti.
