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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM ive called a few times. Mostly about helathcare reform, but i called a few weeks ago to get some advice on what I should do after graduation. I called to give him an update. AND, to ask him somehting Ive ALWAYS wanted to ask: "dr drew, I know you went to school for a long time and had a really busy schedule, how did you find time to develop yourself into a man of such exquisite passion?" I think you can go to the dr drew page and download the podcast. I think its the very last call before the show ends for Monday Mar 10. http://www.1260.am/programming/hosts/bios/?host=7 —whoisnumbaone |
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airking32 |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 1:05 PM dr. drew live doesn't really seem like a "shout-out" type of show. my guess is anderson would have dumped it out. —airking32 |
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acm323 |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM Yeah. Anderson hates shout outs. If you allow one person to do it, every idiot is going to do it. —acm323 |
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Masteel |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 2:07 PM No, no shout-outs. That's the rules of the board. —Masteel |
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plurry |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 2:15 PM nah, let him make an ass of himself so that they stop taking his calls. —plurry |
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whoisnumbaone |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 3:30 PM a straight shout-out would be gay, so you gotta find a clever way to do it. —whoisnumbaone |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 6:51 PM ^ Are you willing to pay higher taxes for teen moms and thier constant reproduction of crack babies? Isin't that one of the consequences for universal health care? —adams_babymomma |
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TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 6:54 PM it would need massive overhauls to work and also it probably wouldn't work that great because nothing ever does —TortillaFactory |
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bguirk |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 6:54 PM coy shout out--just work in "TLC." —bguirk |
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TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 6:56 PM hey bguirk how is your name pronounced? you never addressed this in the "Majandra Fan" thread. I call "bee-gwerk." —TortillaFactory |
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Dusty TheHick |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 7:18 PM I call "buh-GWERK," as if there were an apostrophe between the b and the g.
My second choice is "buh-GERK," but I didn't want to say so before, because draketard said something similar.
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bguirk |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 7:34 PM you never addressed this in the "Majandra Fan" thread. I call "bee-gwerk." —TortillaFactory couple o' thoughts: 1. When I open threads and see too many pictures right at the top I never go back so I didn't know this was an open question. 2. It's been a long time since I said "my screen name is just a contraction of my real name back from the days when my dialup ISP wouldn't let you use more than 8 letters." As I tend to read and write silently I have never pronounced my screen name so I don't know what it's supposed to sound like. I could cop out and say you're all right, but I'll go with TF's pronunciation because I don't like the idea of the "buh" sound. —bguirk |
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TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 7:50 PM When I open threads and see too many pictures right at the top I never go back so I didn't know this was an open question. this is what I figured. thanks for your support —TortillaFactory |
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ZT Spice |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM ^ Are you willing to pay higher taxes for teen moms and thier constant reproduction of crack babies? —adams_babymomma ARE YOU WILLING TO READ? WHERE DO YOU GET THE IDEA (MEANING CITE A RELIABLE SOURCE, OR SHUT THE FUCK UP) THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF "TEEN MOMS" CONSTANTLY REPRODUCING "CRACK BABIES?" MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF THERE WERE, WHAT ADVANTAGE IS THERE TO DENYING THE HEALTH CARE? AND, LASTLY, HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY IN TAXES? —ZT Spice |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:22 PM ^ did I say millions? NO! Aren't you and many other TLC members always talking about "the burden that taxpayers pay for parents who unleash a bunch of ignoramuses into society".
MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF THERE WERE, WHAT ADVANTAGE IS THERE TO DENYING THE HEALTH CARE?
NOT HAVING TO PAY TAXES FOR CHILDREN PRODUCED BY DEADBEAT PARENTS. DUH! Not every child will have two loving, drug-free parents. That's the reality.
AND, LASTLY, HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY IN TAXES?
More than your friend Hillary Clinton. If you were part of the middle class you would understand. I see half of my mom's paycheck going to taxes, because she's neither rich or poor.
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Dusty TheHick |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:17 PM Yes, we have to pay for them either way...so why can't we have health care for people who AREN'T that irresponsible, too? —Dusty TheHick |
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adams_babymomma |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:24 PM so why can't we have health care for people who AREN'T that irresponsible, too? —Dusty TheHick We should. That's why I'm voting for Obama. The only problem with universal health care is that everyone (including people who choose to screw up thier lives) will benefit from it. —adams_babymomma |
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ZT Spice |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:29 PM ARE YOU WILLING TO READ? WHERE DO YOU GET THE IDEA (MEANING CITE A RELIABLE SOURCE, OR SHUT THE FUCK UP) THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF "TEEN MOMS" CONSTANTLY REPRODUCING "CRACK BABIES?" —ZT SpiceAren't you and many other TLC members always talking about "the burden that taxpayers pay for parents who unleash a bunch of ignoramuses into society". —adams_babymomma EPIC FAIL. STOP TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS. YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE, YOU DON'T PAY TAXES, READ A BOOK. —ZT Spice |
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TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:31 PM I really hope that Lena continues debating health care with ZT because this has the potential to be the funniest/saddest thing ever —TortillaFactory |
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adams_babymomma |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:50 PM I wasn't even asking ZT, but he always likes to jump in and go apeshit on me with his CAPS. All I'm saying is that we shouldn't award those who don't fully contribute to society. # 8 is my favorite —adams_babymomma |
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ZT Spice |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:54 PM All I'm saying is that we shouldn't award those who don't fully contribute to society. —adams_babymomma WHAT HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY LATELY? —ZT Spice |
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adams_babymomma |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 9:08 PM WHAT HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY LATELY? —ZT Spice
Obeying the law, and not crapping out babies left and right is the best way to contribute to society. Are you expecting to see Oprah's philanthropy list or something? Listen, I'm all for health care, but as long as it benefits hard working people like you. Not barefoot, pregnant Assyrians. —adams_babymomma |
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Dusty TheHick |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 9:12 PM Obeying the law, and not crapping out babies left and right is the best way to contribute to society.
Not exactly true, but it is the easiest way, and, at your age, is pretty good.
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ZT Spice |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM Obeying the law, and not crapping out babies left and right is the best way to contribute to society. Are you expecting to see Oprah's philanthropy list or something? —adams_babymomma THE BEST THING YOU CAN COME UP WITH IS: I HAVEN'T BEEN KNOCKED UP YET, SO I'M TOTALLY CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY. I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT YOU'RE WORTHY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SEE A DOCTOR IN AMERICA (AND I WAS BORN HERE, SO MY OPINION COUNTS), THAT MONEY SHOULD GO TO CRACK DEALERS. THEY'RE SELF-EMPLOYED ENTREPRENEURS, LEARN ABOUT BUSINESS, ARE ABLE TO SUPPLY DRUGS TO PEOPLE WHO WANT THEM, AND ARE GOOD TOPICS FOR RAP SONGS THAT MAKE SHIT TONS OF MONEY. YOU COULD LEARN A LOT FROM A CRACK DEALER, ABM. —ZT Spice |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM
YOU COULD LEARN A LOT FROM A CRACK DEALER, ABM. Buckle up. —bguirk |
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TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:14 PM I think maybe she means "isn't detrimental to society" rather than "contributes to society" because most of contribute jack shit to society, let's be honest —TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM Just because Lena don't pay income tax, doesn't mean that it doesn't affect her or that she shouldn't have an opinion on it. If whoever she decides to vote for is in office for 8 years, she will be paying income tax by the time they are gone. It is possible to form a rational opinion on something that doesn't affect you directly. I can't stand the "You don't know what it is like to pay all sorts of taxes" or "You've never had to choose between healthcare and groceries" arguments. Well yeah, but I'm not a retard. So frustrating. —derekho |
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acm323 |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM Come on ZT... Let's be real for a minute. It's simple mathematics. There are simply not enough Adam Carolla's in the world to pay for the health care needs of all the fuck ups in America... You know that! —acm323 |
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TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM yeah derek I hate those arguments too, but it's also possible to form way too much of an opinion about things you can't possibly comprehend. not you PERSONALLY. I mean people in general. I guess it could be you personally, I don't read giant walls of sociopolitical text even if they're posted by you. —TortillaFactory |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:29 PM Well, shucks. Thanks tortilla. I'm actually serious. You can tell because I called you tortilla. I'm pretty sure that people in general are retarted and their opinions on healthcare and taxes are irrelevant, regardless of how much they have experienced them. You don't need to get hit by a bus to understand that it would probably hurt. —derekho |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:31 PM The really unfortunate thing about that is that they're making important decisions about who and what to vote for and against based on their "experience" and gut feelings. —anobody |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Edited Monday, March 10, 2008 at 10:39 PM I can't stand the "You don't know what it is like to pay all sorts of taxes" or "You've never had to choose between healthcare and groceries" arguments. Well yeah, but I'm not a retard. So frustrating. Maybe so, but actually paying some taxes gives you a perspective on taxes. Paying $300 a month for insurance and then having to cough up $1200 for an MRI will give you some new feelings on the subject. It's a lot different when you're truly out on your own. Lena is far from it. There are simply not enough Adam Carolla's in the world to pay for the health care needs of all the fuck ups in America... We are already paying for them. They go to the emergency room as their primary care physician. They don't pay their bill because they don't have money. We the people with money cover the gap of the hospital's write off with higher premiums and higher costs for procedures. If they go to the county we pay through higher taxes via medicaid or whatever flavor of state tax you have. Getting the country on a managed care system will save us all. —bguirk |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM I'm pretty sure that people in general are retarted and their opinions on healthcare and taxes are irrelevant, regardless of how much they have experienced them. Yeah basically. I'm really able to put it in perspective because there is a schizophrenic man posting on another forum having in-depth arguments about psychology, medicine, and science with many many people. He is convinced that his own personal experience is infallible and nobody else could possibly understand schizophrenia. Especially not doctors. Also, medications make you high and all you need to build a perpetual motion machine is to throw a frisbee in space where it will spin forever. He's a gem. —TortillaFactory |
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 2:05 AM I almost got hit by a bus once. True story.
I also almost paid tax once. True story.
Every time I watch an archeological show like Time Team I kind of marvel at how sophisticated serf-wrangling has become over the centuries. What i mean is that people will argue on and on about the best way a system can favour people it is inherently designed to oppress. Is this an example of missing the forest for the trees? I've never been able to apply that saying to an actual situation. Kind of like "ironic", it always seems a little off. —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM Paying $300 a month for insurance and then having to cough up $1200 for an MRI will give you some new feelings on the subject. It's a lot different when you're truly out on your own. Lena is far from it. -bguirk Damn dude, thats fucked up, but its also the reason why I htink we MUST have some sort of universal healthcare system in place. So, you all might not know this, although I think ive mentioned it a few times, but I was the Director of Marketing at a radiology and Cancer Treatment center. I worked there for about a year. My office was right in the middle of the billing department and I would listen in to phone conversations and overhear what the billing people at my facility would talk about. Let me tell you the SHADY fucked up shit we did. 1. people with no insurance paid MORE for treatment as did people with insurance. Now, this seems obvious but let me explain to make it more clear. if you come to us with no insurance and you need an MRI, we charge you $1200, up front. However, if you had insurance, we charged you a $20 copay. Ok, so, you would think that we would then send a bill to your HMO for $1180 right? WRONG! we send a bill to your HMO for $400. This means that if you have insurance, we charge you $800 less than if you didnt have it. FOR THE SAME PROCEDURE. I would think that everyone regardless of insurance or not would get billed the billed the same right? No!
2. medicare is the standard for rates, therefore every year when medicare cuts its rates, HMO's cut thier pay structure, even though they raise thier premiums.
This means that if next year Medicare decides to pay you a $350 standard rate for an MRI, ALL HMO"S drop what the pay us, from the original $400, to $350 in order to match medicare. You would thnk that this savings would get passed on to you right? WRONG! HMO's charge you the same, if not MORE.
3. Doctors cannot give reccomendations according to what they feel the patient needs. Everythign has to get approved through the HMO, BEFORE the doctor reccomends and MRI, chemo, rad therapy, surgery, etc....
This basically means that if you have somehting like cancer, and the doctor feels he need you to get a CT, and then prolly radiation therapy, we facility and the doctor can lose thier contract (maybe even get sued) if they dont call the insurance company FIRST and plead his case in regards to what the patients needs are. If the doc thinks you need a CT, the HMO can say "naw, i think he had enough.... if he complains win the next 90 dyas then MAYBE we will consider it." And the doctor has his hands tied and CANT get that CT, in order to see if your cancer has spread. so, your FUCKED.
.... so i got fired (i was gonan quit anyways) and i left healthcare for good. But what i suggest to all of you is to get kaiser. kaiser is the BEST in terms of fairness, and treating people like patients instead of a $ sign. and I think you can get your own plan for about $80 a month. that includes EVERYTHING! good deal
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John Lennon |
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 11:22 AM Or, get in a clinical trial at NCI/NIH and get your treatment and tests for free, plus free round trip airfare and hotel accomodations, courtesy of DHS. Plus if you need to get treated locally, they will ship the drugs to your local doctor/treatment center. —John Lennon |
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whoisnumbaone |
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 8:34 PM hey interesting fact, I sometimes had work/shit to do at the same hospital as Dr. Spaz. Never saw him though. —whoisnumbaone |
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