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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 2:45 PM Example, three friends, 50.00 each, so I say the tip is 30.00 total. My friend says that's ridiculous, that there has to be a "cap" on the tip when the meal is expensive. I kind of agree, 30.00 for barely an hour of work seems way too much. So, is there a cap, and if so, what is it? —Masteel |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 2:48 PM only when the meal is on the house do i tip exactly 20% of my cost —000 |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM I think there should be a cap, $20 maybe. I don't think you're entitled to more money just because you work somewhere expensive. —chix0r |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 3:51 PM Why not? People at expensive restaurants are expected to be faster, more polite, and more efficient than your typical wage slave at Red Robin. I think they're entitled. —TortillaFactory |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 3:53 PM Sorry, kids. There is no cap. The idea is that a more expensive restaurant gives more attentive service and there are more people who have to split the tip. It's not just one server, but there is a greeter, a seater, a bread guy, a wine steward, the crumb-removal guy, the water guy, etc. —pookie |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 4:08 PM Sorry, kids. There is no cap. Indeed. The idea is that a more expensive restaurant gives more attentive service and there are more people who have to split the tip. It's not just one server, but there is a greeter, a seater, a bread guy, a wine steward, the crumb-removal guy, the water guy, etc. Not only that but people work hard for a long time to get those jobs at the upscale places and they should be compensated for it. Which brings up one of the really shitty things about waiting in Arizona (and many other states). Servers get paid (and charged taxes) with the assumption that they'll make a certain amount in tips - so they'll often be paid a pitiful hourly rate that's significantly less than minimum wage. If they end up with a few crappy tips they can actually lose money. —anobody |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM a friend's daughter thought it would be a good idea to waitress at red lobster because she figured it's more expensive than red robin so she assumed there would be bigger tips. she found the opposite to be true. she said the customers consisted mostly of senior citizens who tipped anywhere from zero to 10%. the same holds true for some upscale restaurants where many people go for special occasions who can barely afford to be there. they are subsequently shocked by the total and therefore tip less than they should. —pookie |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 4:18 PM What's $30/hr? My salary breaks down to more than that. And I don't get paid a lot.
It should be more than that anyway if they are servicing more than one table.
I've never heard of any cap. If you don't want to pay that much for a meal then don't eat there. Simple.
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM I agree, there is no cap. For me, it's all about how good the service is. If it's less than good (and it's the waiter's fault) I have no problem leaving less than 15%. —miyagi-sama |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM If anything I would tip more if the place is "upscale" or more expensive.
Honestly, the service is usually better and who wants to look like a cheap ass laying down exactly a 20% tip, which in itself is not a hard and fast rule. —abusive a-hole |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 4:30 PM What's $30/hr? About 62k / year. (sorry - it's math; couldn't help it) same holds true for some upscale restaurants where many people go for special occasions who can barely afford to be there. they are subsequently shocked by the total and therefore tip less than they should. Definitely true (though I think that what most of us think of upscale is actually just the higher end of the down market - if that makes any sense at all). —anobody |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 5:04 PM Don't like tipping? Solution:  ano, I know they have at least a couple in n out's in Zona, ever been to one? —anfernee |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 5:51 PM Always tip at least 20%. Period. No caps. If the tip seems too high then eat at inexpensive restaurants or stay home, ya cheap bastards. —Beat It! |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 7:19 PM ano, I know they have at least a couple in n out's in Zona, ever been to one? I'm pretty sure we've been over this before and I crapped on them... however I've since reconsidered my position and I'm now a fan of theirs. —anobody |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM My tip rate starts at 15% and can move up or down from there probably averaging in the 17% range. If I am a repeat customer at a restaurant (2 or more times a month) I tend to leave more like $5 on anything under $15. That extra 13% buys a lot--you'll often get seated faster next time, they'll bring you "crumbled" dessert or a new appetizer for you to try out--it's really stupid but it works. If you're a single dating guy it's a good idea to build a relationship with a restaurant--this is crass, but it just might get you laid. If I'm just passing through town I'm just another faceless person to them--unless they are perfect, exceedingly fast or comp me something it's 15%. I also have some Vegas rules too because the service there is so uniformly bad . If you EVER mouth off to me you get nothing and I might even tell you why you're getting nothing. If you're a funny dealer I give you a nice two bet tip if I'm losing, more if I'm winning. If you don't keep the drinks coming at the rate of 2.5-3 an hour you get 5-7% because I figure you must making it up in volume. If you give me that look like I owe you a big pile of cash because you raced me around your van to get my bag when I was obviously getting it myself (drivers always do this) it's a nice handshake and a "thanks for the ride," when you could've had $2 on $9. If on the very rare night I'm playing blackjack instead of poker and I lay a bet down for you and you don't play along pretending to be all excited (this goes for dealers and waitresses)--your tips are done for the night--you're supposed to make me feel like a bigtimer assholes. Vegas has got to have the most surly service people in the US at the moment and it's all over the place--something like 30% bad apples in every property. —bguirk |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 8:15 PM i'm a student and i'm jewish, so 10% is usually the tip amount. sometimes 15% if it is inexpensive. —mandee |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 8:26 PM Way to reinforce the sterotype, Mandee! —acm323 |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 8:34 PM i can tell that waiters/waitresses are always disappointed when they have to serve a group of college students because they know they aren't going to get a big tip. —mandee |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 8:46 PM I used to feel that way too, but I got that withering look even when we all tried to bust the stereotype so you might as well just go with it and save some money. —bguirk |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 9:21 PM When I used to work at a restaurant I would get so pissed when people wouldn't tip my friends well. Tip at least 20% or STAY HOME! I would always tip a minimum of 20% on the regular price of the meal/drinks, even though I got food & drinks for half price since I worked there. The other good thing about working at a restaurant is if you make friends with the bartender and help them with the beer cooler and restocking, you can get part of the tipout (the total bar tips at the end of the night). —John Lennon |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 9:57 PM Sorry but no. You don't automatically get 1/5 of the price of the meal no matter what. It's not that hard to get there with me, but it's not automatic. —bguirk |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM bigtimer
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM he's channeling jjgold. —bguirk |
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Edited Saturday, March 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM that's what i thought YOU were doing, i was just being a jackass and drawing attention to it. —foob2011 |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 1:23 AM Im kinda siding with Steve Buscemi on this one, but not to that extreme. I do tip at restaurants, but I don't believe that the tip should be higer because of the price of the meal. They're still doing the same job that they're supposed to do, right? If it's 50 bucks and a lot of food is being brought out, then yes you should tip more than usual. I am not and do despise the customer who wants things at a snap. As long as my food arrives on a reasonable time and there is filling of the cup when empty, I am happy. Sometimes they go overboard at those high end places, such as filling the cup every time you take a sip, or interrupt your conversation every five mins to ask how everything is. To me, that just becomes irritation. —HocusPocus |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 2:21 AM i remember when chicken soup for the soul first came out, there was this story about a kid who went to this diner and the waitress was annoyed because she didn't want to have to wait on this kid because she knew he probably wouldn't tip much. the kid asked how much a sundae was and the waitress said $1.50 and the kid was like oh well how much is just a regular cup of ice cream and the waitress, who was thinking come on already, said $1. he ordered the regular cup of ice cream. when he was finished, he left $1.50 on the table. the point of the story is that he didn't want the sundae because he wanted to give the waitress a good tip. i remember when this story was read, everyone said awwww and then i knew i would hate people. if we went back to that thread of when did you lose your faith in humanity, maybe this would be my moment. —mandee |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 7:44 AM oh my god! you were the little boy! —mandee |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 9:48 AM 
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 10:30 AM stop with the Obama pics already. —bguirk |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 11:11 AM Sorry but no. You don't automatically get 1/5 of the price of the meal no matter what. It's not that hard to get there with me, but it's not automatic. Absolutely. I'm a better than average tipper in general, but if the service is shit, my tip will reflect it (the most extreme example being some douche who, after fucking up the orders, and generally being oblivious, disappeared for about 45 minutes cutting off my vital iced tea supply; for my party of 7 I left $0.01; as we were leaving, he came running out to get me to correct the "mistake" - to this day, I wish I would have just drawn a line through the tip and recalculated for nothing - and I am not a spiteful person). —anobody |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 12:15 PM I went to Cassis on the Upper West Side and the waiter didn't even know they were out of things on the menu. He had to come back from the kitchen and tell me. When you only have like six things on your menu you better know exactly what's going on. Plus I didn't like his attitude. I left a $2 tip on like a $45 lunch. —abusive a-hole |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 12:52 PM I lay a bet down for you and you don't play along pretending to be all excited (this goes for dealers and waitresses)--your tips are done for the night--you're supposed to make me feel like a bigtimer assholes —bguirk heh. I didn't know people even did that. Good info, now I can at least argue with my friend when he wants to be cheap. He once tipped the waitresses at this diner $3 after them serving him and his crew all night - and he didn't know it was wrong. The manager came up and chewed him a new asshole, and he laid down a measly $5 extra, he still didn't get it. —Masteel |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM What's $30/hr? My salary breaks down to more than that. And I don't get paid a lot.
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM i can tell that waiters/waitresses are always disappointed when they have to serve a group of college students because they know they aren't going to get a big tip. —mandee I always felt awkward in these situations around campus, because usually the server was some chick I knew from class. I always leave a good tip, but didn't want it to feel like it was some sort of charity thing...just weird. —Masteel |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM Some restaurants have a policy that they automatically add 15% - 18% on your bill if your party consists of ten people or more. —pookie |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 2:36 PM As someone who is working at a restaurant, I'm probably a chronic over tipper. When I would take my ex out to fancy schmancy places even when we would get less than par service I would over tip. For two reasons, one its bad to look like acheap Jew with your girlfriend and two I really want to not reinforce the 'young people tip like shit' stereotype. Now even when out with my friends I'll end up paying extra to compensate for my friends lack of decent tip. As a rule if the service is just awful still tip 8%..Unless it was just so offensive and horrible that you want to send a message, but even then you're better off complaining to the manager who will give them an earful. I say 8% because, and I done know what the laws are elsewhere, in Minnesota you have to claim 8%. So if you tip less they lose money. I will agree that its awesome for servers when customers give you a five when it technically should be less. Over tippers always will get treated better hands down. As for fancy restaurants there should be no cap. They get fewer tables and oftentimes have to pool and share tips. Plus if you are going to an expensive restaurant you can probably afford a good tip so just do it. —andrewwagner777 |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 3:11 PM When I would take my ex out to fancy schmancy places even when we would get less than par service I would over tip. For two reasons, one its bad to look like acheap Jew with your girlfriend and two I really want to not reinforce the 'young people tip like shit' stereotype. —andrewwagner777 I TRY NOT TO REINFORCE THE DIRTY HIPPIES TIP LIKE SHIT ... I don't know why I'm typing in capital letters. But, yeah, try to be generous at restaurants and with deliveries. —ZT Spice |
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Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 3:23 PM I say 8% because, and I done know what the laws are elsewhere, in Minnesota you have to claim 8%. So if you tip less they lose money. I thought republicans were against social welfare. I guess they make an exception for waitstaff. I wish people were so concerned about my well financial being when I worked a dogs age of shitty jobs in warehouses and movie theaters. heh. I didn't know people even did that. It's a good move--no one ever does it for waitresses so if you pull it you usually get your drinks faster with a higher percentage of booze in them. This is important at the cheap ass off strip places I play black jack in. —bguirk |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 11:01 AM article on tipping
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM That's interesting. I like the tip already being calculated in and charged, what I wouldn't like is I KNOW that then that would become the norm, and we'd be expected to tip another tip beyond the one that's already included. I'm saying, even if the automatic tip was 25%, after a while, there would be an expectation for a "voluntary" tip on top of the already high 25% automatic tip. —Masteel |
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Monday, March 10, 2008 at 12:37 PM Oh, Dusty, can you make it where he's in that guy's crotch too? lol, never get tired of these. —Masteel |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM HEY I'M A WAITRESS AND THIS FAT FUCK WITH A CORVETTE COMES IN EVERY DAY ORDERS 15 DOLLARS IN BEER AT LEAST. SOMETIMES A MEAL TOO AND HE NEVER FUCKING TIPS ME. ASLDFKHSDLFKJ BUT HE HAS EXTRA CASH TO PLAY TERRIBLE MUSIC ON THE JUKEBOX AND SMOKE 10 CIGARETTES. SERIOUSLY FUCK YOUR LIFE. GET A JOB. LIVE ALONE AND DIE. —stefanie |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 11:20 AM also, tuesday i worked for 12 hours. we had three customers all day. $13 dollar meal. $19 dollar meal. $20 dollar meal. only one person tipped and it was .45 cents...that i had to split with the other waitress. i don't screw up orders. i'm friendly, polite, and attentive. seriously, fuck you guys. my boss is taxing %23 percent of our paychecks sometimes. i don't get it. —stefanie |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 11:26 AM Stefanie: Go out to the parking lot and let the air out of his tires. And put some sugar in his gas tank, too. —John Lennon |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM i don't get that at all. i have NEVER in my life stiffed a waiter/waitress/maseusse/limo driver/cab driver/anyone else that you tip, EVAR. and god knows, i am pretty cheap. there have been plenty of times that i've been PISSED that i had to leave a tip becuase the service sucked, but i still do anyway. i don't even look at tipping as an OPTION; its just something you have to do... though i will range from 10% to 25% depending on if the service is good or bad. and stefanie, getting stiffed by a regular? what a colossal jerkoff that guy is. why wouldn't you want to be on good terms with the staff of a place you frequent? that is beyond me. —airking32 |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM People in the South (Georgia) usually seemed pretty nice to me when I was down there, but this guy does sound like a colossal A-hole/completely unaware of other people. —John Lennon |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM I tip 25% all the time, especially when I'm at an expensive restaurants. When waitresses see how much I tip, they approach me and want to be a part of my world. —Jaffa Cakes |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 4:24 PM but to be fair, what female, or even male doesn't want to be a part of your world. —mandee |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 4:40 PM They all respect my juice. They see what I eat, exotic meats and cheeses, exotic pancakes if I'm at IHOP. Women are naturally drawn to exotic pancakes. —Jaffa Cakes |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Edited Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 5:02 PM stefanie, what kind of restaurant do you work in? Those customers sound like total dirt rockers. And you have to tip share among all the servers? You need to find a better place to work. —Beat It! |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 5:12 PM ^ Yes, it's still 1992 in Georgia. Are you a cocktail server or is this actual dining service? —Beat It! |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Edited Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 5:27 PM stef, i think it's time to seriously consider stripping. you're spinning your wheels with these food joints. —plurry |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 5:53 PM I just read 80 of stef's posts because I thought she mentioned her job, but it turns out she only said an Applebee's district manager gave her money and she used to work at Rally's. Also, I can't check on her MySpace because I'm not her friend. —chix0r |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 6:03 PM according to her myspace, she's an encyclopedia salesman. harhar. —plurry |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 6:22 PM Georgia still allows smoking in restaurants and bars that don't serve minors, so I'm guessing maybe she works in a restaurant that has a separate bar where no minors are allowed. I'm not sure if that's a loophole for the law, but I bet it is. —TortillaFactory |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Edited Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 6:24 PM Tipping rule addendum. I tip $1 per beer no matter what. Georgia still allows smoking in restaurants and bars that don't serve minors, you can smoke in any restaurant in Michigan. I can't wait to GTFO. —bguirk |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 7:26 PM I love Minnesota. I've also probably seen a 50% increase in times I go out to eat with my friends because of the smoking ban. . . Before we opted to just eat chips and crap at someone's house after football/basketball/hockey games and now we just splurge money and go out. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 7:29 PM i saw a picture of mark lamarr working on his radio show while smoking and i came. —mandee |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM love washington. —lexieho And New York, Minnesota, and Oregon. Sooo nice to go have a drink and not have to take a shower. —bguirk |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM ...and then we're going back to Washington D.C. to take back the White House...BWAH!!! —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 8:09 PM And New York, Minnesota, and Oregon. Sooo nice to go have a drink and not have to take a shower. —bguirk You can now add Maryland to that list. —Dusty TheHick |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 8:11 PM sawweet. The wife just let me know Oregon is not smoke free until Jan 1, '09. —bguirk |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 8:16 PM Maryland started on 2/1/08.
I'm a smoker, but I don't particularly care for trying to enjoy a meal in a smoke-filled room. As far as bars go, I think a ban is a bad idea, at least where food is not involved. It just seems bad for business.
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 8:19 PM As far as bars go, I think a ban is a bad idea,
Bad for business? Trust me--people didn't stop drinking in NY.
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 8:52 PM I'm sure they didn't. What I mean is this (thinking off the top of my head, so thoughts may be a bit unorganized): In casinos, for example, things like cigarettes and drinks are brought to gamblers at the table. Why? To keep them at the table, so they'll gamble more. If a dude is drinking at the bar, and doesn't have to get up from the bar, and go outside for a smoke, he's going to keep his sweaty ass right there on the stool for a more consistent period of time, and probably have more drinks during that time. If he has to get up to go outside for a smoke, he's going to have to leave his drink there (and hope it's STILL there when he gets back), go outside, have his smoke, and return to drink number one, which has lasted longer than it would have if he'd stayed there. Therefore, more time will have elapsed by the time he's ready for drink number two, and, at the end of the night, he will have ordered (and paid for) fewer drinks. Also, there are people who will opt to purchase their alcohol at a store, and drink at home, rather than at the bar, where they have to smoke outside. Also, there are people who would be deterred from going to the bar, by the crowd of obnoxious drunks hanging near the front door, who would otherwise be inside drinking, if they hadn't had to come out to smoke. Furthermore (and this is more of an ethical point than a business point), I don't feel that the government (Christ, I hope this doesn't make me sound like Legion Lesion) should dictate to private business owners whether or not they are allowed to permit the use of a legally-obtained substance, whose use, in and of itself, is legal, in his/her privately owned establishment...and expect HIM/HER to ENFORCE it for them. It should be left up to these proprieters. Now your next point may be "Well, if it were up to THEM, none of them would disallow it," and you'd be absolutely right...and there is a reason for that. —Dusty TheHick |
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Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM Stefanie, what the hell is wrong with your boss??? The second time that guy stiffed you, your boss should have gotten in his face and told him that he was not welcome there unless he tipped the waitress. Why didn't he? Did you tell him? Why don't you tell this dude that from now on he's going to get shitty service unless you tip him? What's he going to say? "This waitress gave me attitude because I refuse to tip her!" That would be funny! —acm323 |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 4:14 AM Dusty you ignorant slut. I won't get into what the government should and shouldn't do. The business loss will probably be made up by people who have been avoiding bars because of the clouds of smoke. Personally I'm far more likely to stop in and have a beer after work now with some friends because I can do it without getting the dry-clean only clothes I often wear to the job all smoky. —bguirk |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 4:30 AM ^ Try Dryel. It's a dry cleaning product that you can use in your own dryer. I got tired of paying $9 to dry clean a dress. It only ends up being around 50 cents per garment and you don't have to make two trips to the cleaners. —pookie |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 4:36 AM I have some Dryel from this summer when I was required to dress nice but not compensated like a nice dressing person. Don't really need to use it since my school clothes and bar clothes are one in the same now. I still don't like the principle of having to go to some extra cleaning expense/effort just so someone can smoke. So glad these laws are passing. I've missed hanging out in sports bars and now I can do that again. —bguirk |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 6:29 AM I have no idea what any of you people are talking about. Your socio-economic environment is insane. —MajandraFan |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 8:36 AM at least we don't live is upside down world. —lexieho |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 9:42 AM That's low you son of a bitch. What fauna insult can I give you? You've exterminated all the native animals over there?
List all the extant species that are suitable for hobbies with binoculars or funny hat(e)s. —MajandraFan |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 11:12 AM I wish my bosses had spines. There's this old guy Bill, who comes in every day about...Ridiculously OCD about everything from where you get the coffee from (will you get it from the kitchen cause its hotter?) to the direction his pie faces... He has us push the ketchup all the way to the wall so he can't see it, he once asked me to take the muffin out of its paper wrapper(no bill). Worst part is whatever he orders be it a slice of pie or a full rack of ribs (heat the roll, one steak knife, three napkins, put the german potato salad, vegetables, and roll on separate plates, and don't bring the food til I'm done with my soup) he NEVER tips a cent. And our managers kiss his ass every time. I'm going to tweak on him one day before I quit. We usually put his order as a To Go order so we don't have to claim those untipped sales. —andrewwagner777 |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM where do you work....dennys? —lexieho |
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Friday, March 14, 2008 at 1:12 PM The owner is a tard, he consistently makes mistakes every time he gets new menus. . . Whenever my dad comes in, he sits there and circles all the errors all over the place. Todd's probably the most optimistic guy ever. You're never going to see him in a bad mood. Ever. "How are you Todd?" "I'M WONDERFUL :)" ALWAYS. —andrewwagner777 |
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