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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 7:33 PM How long did it take everyone to "get their shit together" (figure out what you wanted to do with your life, etc.) and did someone else kick you in the ass or did you know what you had to do? —John Lennon |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 7:47 PM Did you got to any of those Recovery, Inc. meetings? Approaching my life with a "get your shit together" attitude has never helped -- it just made me more anxious. It's only when I can look at my mind with kindness a curiosity that I find answers. —ZT Spice |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 7:53 PM It's only when I can look at my mind with kindness a curiosity that I find answers. Are you Buddhist? I haven't gone to those meetings, I was going to talk about them with my counselor first and see what he thought. I did read "The Codependents' Guide to the 12 Steps" recently and that helped me figure some stuff out. —John Lennon |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM I wouldn't say I've "got my shit together" now (neither by your definition nor by what I'd consider to be a more reasonable one). In addition to what ZT said, I think that you should look at things as more of a continuous process of improving yourself and finding your way rather than some sort of destination where magically everything clicks into place and you're done (unless by that you're talking about death). I this is one of those things where the direct approach doesn't really work anyway. It's like trying to find the secret to happiness. Nothing will make you more miserable than spending all of your time trying to figure out how to make yourself happy. It's not like there's some magic diet or prescription - you pretty much know the answer anyway, it's just not very sexy. —anobody |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:12 PM More or less. I'm not saying you should stagnate and drift around - just see where you are, figure out things you want to work on and work on them. Slowly they improve over time and you can work on other stuff. —anobody |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:13 PM Jesus that takes a long time, especially for me. How did you like my email to George McGovern? —John Lennon |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:13 PM I don't think anyone ever gets their shit together. I'm still a work in progress. I can pick various points in the past and see times when I've had less of my shit together than others, but it's not like there's an end zone to your career or education or social life. Doesn't Adam say something like "keep moving forward." It's really not that hard. —bguirk |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:15 PM Jesus that takes a long time, especially for me. Didn't you read anything I said? Or what BG said? or ZT? This is why I feel like I'm wasting my time. How did you like my email to George McGovern? Didn't read it. —anobody |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Edited Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:18 PM Oh, I guess I have been thinking about life all wrong then. I thought you were supposed to be graduated from college by 21 or 22, get a good paying job right out of college, etc. I Did read what you all said Ano, such as "figure out things you want to work on and work on them." to which I replied "that takes a long time, especially for me". —John Lennon |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:19 PM And getting a good paying job right out of college (or without going to college) means that you've magically "got your shit together"?
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:19 PM I thought you were supposed to be graduated from college by 21 or 22, get a good paying job right out of college, etc. I don't know anyone who does this. Your first job out of undergrad usually sucks ass BTW. —bguirk |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:20 PM even if it didn't, why would you think that it would make all of your troubles go away? —anobody |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Edited Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:24 PM getting a good paying job right out of college (or without going to college) means that you've magically "got your shit together"? Didn't say that. I'm just going by what my parents have told me, but their influence isn't mattering much any more. At least I am noticing that I don't care what they think about me as much any more. Not saying that it would make all my troubles go away. Just that I *edit* don't think I would stress about money as much. —John Lennon |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM LOL - lets see how much you worry about money when you've got a mortgage and a car payment and a 401k (unless you end up in the top point-oh-one percent, which you won't). —anobody |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM Are you Buddhist? —John Lennon The Dalai Lama cautions people from converting if they have resentment for their previous religious tradition(s). I know a lot about what Buddhism teaches from practical western point of view, but very little about the "guts" of the religion -- there's parts I've heard of that I don't like. That being said, the though of converting has crossed my mind a few times. But I'm not in any hurry, and I'm not sure that it really matters. I haven't gone to those meetings, I was going to talk about them with my counselor first and see what he thought. I did read "The Codependents' Guide to the 12 Steps" recently and that helped me figure some stuff out. —John Lennon Cool. —ZT Spice |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 11:02 PM There are many different denominations of buddhism, some less inclined to strange things than others. If you know mostly about tibetan buddhism it seems really mystical with lots of idolatry and such. Other traditions are strictly philosophical without any of the mysticism. My family are pretty normal, non-mystical buddhists. It's mostly just using meditation to help get rid of attachment, as buddhism generally views attachment to ideas, things, people, whatever, as the root of suffering. By meditating, you are supposedly assuming a non-thinking mind, and with it a lack of attachment. Though most people end up saying that they aren't thinking, or become attached to not thinking and get nowhere. Pretty simple dogma though at the root of most buddhism. It is just to free yourself from attachment (and by doing so free yourself from suffering) and to save all beings from suffering. —derekho |
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Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 11:31 PM never gt my shit together by typical standards, but i wouldnt b stoked working 9-5 —000 |
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Monday, January 7, 2008 at 8:54 AM Every time I see this thread I think of the great Fishbone song that includes the lyrics: "get together your shit--and get your ass to a popper toilet." —bguirk |
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM Bloated Cancer, there is a Final Solution. I mean, killing yourself, not killing Jews. Heh, killing Jews. Sorry, Derek. —greymatters |
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 12:31 PM Is getting a job at Taco Bell considered "getting your shit together"? —Sassafras Roots don't settle for less. ever thought about working for a video game company? I heard there's this job that allows you test video games and get the "bugs" out.
maybe that job can inspire you to design video games.
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 1:47 PM Heh, killing Jews. Sorry, Derek. It's cool. In my opinion it just strengthens our gene pool. There's a reason so many smart people are Jewish. —derekho |
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 5:24 PM ever thought about working for a video game company? I heard there's this job that allows you test video games and get the "bugs" out. The problem with that is that it's like a Twilight Zone episode where you make a wish and for the rest of your life, you don't eat anything but your favorite food. It starts out all well and good, but eventually it just becomes a huge grind and you quickly get to the point where if you even see your favorite food again, you'll want to kill someone. —anobody |
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 5:58 PM jews/satan.. same thing. —plurry |
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 6:14 PM FREE MANSONS. GET YOUR CONSPIRACIES STRAIGHT. —ZT Spice |
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Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM >>I thought you were supposed to be graduated from college by 21 or 22, get a good paying job right out of college, etc. That's what I did. >>How long did it take everyone to "get their shit together" and did someone else kick you in the ass or did you know what you had to do? I've had my shit together since I was born. Ask anyone. I decided (on my own) that I needed to have a career and teaching was the most palatable one when I was 17. —chix0r |
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Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 5:36 PM That's what I did. O RLY? get a good paying job Guess it all depends on your perspective. I've had my shit together since I was born. Ask anyone. I decided (on my own) that I needed to have a career and teaching was the most palatable one when I was 17. Personally I'd say you're just delusional... but then, who am I to talk? —anobody |
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 5:58 PM ^ Thanks Dusty, glad you remember me. Short answer: TLC forum went down, my hard drive crashed, lost bookmarks (but nothing else), forgot about this site (combination of crazy work hours + alcohol), was listening to old LL mp3s when this site was mentioned, went to it and--"hey! The forums are back!", lurked a bit, finally posted. —mattress in the lane |
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Sunday, January 27, 2008 at 9:25 AM Among Buddha's teachings were those related to the so-called Six Modes (or States) of Existence. While there are many translations and interpretations of these, they were all based on Buddha's own observations of human conditions, which may be summarized as follows. An individual might be preoccupied with: 1) eternal craving for things --- the so-called "hungry ghost" state. 2) ignorant outlook, not examining theoretical possibilities --- the "animal" state. 3) eternal anger, constantly at fight with himself or others --- the "hell" state. 4) overly-competitive, always out-doing others using any means --- the "jealous-god" state. 5) overly-contemptuous with a false sense of having attained a god-like state --- the "god-being" state. The sixth state is what Buddha taught as being free from the other five states, calling it the "Human" state, which lacks the preoccupations of the other states, and exhibits inquisitiveness and virtuous reasoning abilities.
I prefer Confucianism and Taoism. They have cooler threads.
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