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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 7:32 PM People who love guns... what's the deal? Striker, you've been posting a fair bit about guns. You mention them a fair bit.
Why? What's your reason?
Why do you like guns? Do you really own any? My idea is that people who love guns have a schism in their consciousness but rather than shadow box, I'd like to get some specific reasoning from Striker or anyone else here who is into guns and stuff. —MajandraFan |
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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 7:39 PM I really wish you hadn't asked if striker owns a lot of guns. Now he's going to post the pic of his MAC-10 leaning up against his monitor, and possibly pictures of the rest of his Bert Gummer style arsenal. —drakeguy19 |
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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 10:10 PM I'd rather see people explaining their view points than people bickering about them. Anobodys bicker, MajandraFans philosophize. —Elvis-In-ZT |
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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:05 PM
Edited Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:05 PM RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY AN EXPLAINATION OF WHY YOU HAVE CERTAIN POINTS OF VIEW AS MUCH AS IT IS YOU STATING WHAT YOURS IS. THAT BEING SAID, IT'S NOT MY JOB TO MAKE TLCERS PEOPLE SAY USEFUL THINGS. SO, I DON'T CARE. —Elvis-In-ZT |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 8:23 AM "My idea is that people who love guns have a schism in their consciousness but rather than shadow box, I'd like to get some specific reasoning from Striker or anyone else here who is into guns and stuff." Substitute guns for an "approved" item, almost whatever item you wish, and you'll see that it is YOU who has the "schism in their consciousness," which would be more accurately termed a BIAS against a particular inanimate object. If you want to talk about "deadliness" of certain inanimate objects then fine, but just keep in mind, that is a different subject from your original question. <<<"Do you really own any?" Drake, like you, my reaction upon reading that was
 However drake, the wording of your response was sloppy. He didn't wonder if I had "a lot" as you said, he said ANY. I mention that because I've only "proven" that I own 2 of my guns by taking their pics in front of the monitor with loveline companion in the background. There is a stated need and a begging request for THIS pic:
 Majandra, this thread highlights the need for me to get off my ass and take more pics of my guns with loveline companion in the background.
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 8:38 AM Majandra, this thread highlights the need for me to get off my ass and take more pics of my guns with loveline companion in the background. That's your interpretation of the thread, mine is more porn please. —AceRockollaisAce |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 8:45 AM
Edited Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 9:38 AM So start a thread about porn. Yea I know, there's just not any available free porn pics on the net  . The black one is a cheap Jimenez .25 ACP, and the other is a .22. Good pocket guns.
 A cheapy Jimenez 9mm
 From top to bottom: Russian SKS, Ruger 10/22, Winchester 12 guage with magazine extension
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 11:07 AM I cant really be assed to look but I am sure McVie wrote that as he didn't hunt he did not have rifles - those look like fucking big hand guns dude. You still have not answered oft asked question why do you need so many? Also do you own a long black coat - and when is the school massace you MUST be planning due to occur —AceRockollaisAce |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 7:31 PM striker: Are your pocket guns registered? Is it hard to get a license? I'm almost 18, is there any way for me to get a pistol before I turn 21? I just want a 22 to hunt with, a shotgun to just have, and like a 9mm pistol to keep next to the bed. And how the hell did your hands on a MAC? —Stryker311 |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 8:40 PM Is that it? You're not going to put any reasons or reasoning forward? Alrighty then, i'll just go with your sloppy crumbs. "My idea is that people who love guns have a schism in their consciousness but rather than shadow box, I'd like to get some specific reasoning from Striker or anyone else here who is into guns and stuff." Substitute guns for an "approved" item, almost whatever item you wish, and you'll see that it is YOU who has the "schism in their consciousness," which would be more accurately termed a BIAS against a particular inanimate object. If you want to talk about "deadliness" of certain inanimate objects then fine, but just keep in mind, that is a different subject from your original question. I would say that any worship of cultural kibble, knick knacks, that kind of thing is the same as loving guns but since I didn't have time to include the latest Avon catalogue in my post, I thought I'd just focus on your particular fetish. Is that cool? Do you really need a wider net? Already trying to change the subject? You're so hot.
Check this shit out. I don't have a bias against guns. You have a love for guns, apparently, which means that relative to your position my neutrality could be bias. It's not though. Neutrality is as round as anything.
I don't care about guns. You do. So, why? Tell me! I want to know!
p.s. Also, you don't have to post pictures of your guns. If you say you own guns, I'll believe you. I don't know exactly how stupid one has to be to be wowed by pictures over words, but way more stupid than me me me. Pictures aren't proof of anything. Nothing can ever be proven anyway. Things can only be practicable, or not. But that's another subject, I guess. —MajandraFan |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 9:31 PM I love guns.
For me, it's the same as with cars. I love my mustang and I love guns, I can't really pin down why. It's probably just a desire to have control over something so powerful, something which can be found in plenty of people, the majority of which being male. I myself don't own any guns, but my parents own a few, which I use with them. I don't really "do" hunting, unless it's to kill foxes or hawks that are killing my mom's chickens and ducks. (Funny story: my mom got so pissed at this one fox, she kept all her animals in the barn one day and waited in the second floor of the other barn about 300 feet away with her 12-guage and blew away the fox when he came snooping around.) I prefer to just shoot clay pigeons or blow away bottles and cans. —foob2011 |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 9:47 PM Because guns are the great equalizer. What’s that old saying, “God may have created man, but it was Sam Colt who made them equal” See, we’re all primates. And we all fall into a pecking order. Guns allow that pecking order to be diversified. Those who would normally be on top can be challenged by those who normally wouldn’t. Those who would normally be subjugated by those on top, suddenly have a way out of that pre-determined biological rank. The same theory works on a bigger group social dynamic as well. Also, it’s nice knowing you have the ability to keep yourself or those you love from being taken advantage of or hurt, in situations where you would have no choice but to get fucked (literally and figuratively) simply by having the right tools with you. See, 5 against 1 is always going to go to the one with more numbers. But 5 against 1, even if all parties are armed, is not a sure thing for the ones with more numbers.
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 10:01 PM guns > darwin. —plurry |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 10:08 PM LOL! plurry summed it up so nicely, kudos to you sir. —Masteel |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 10:10 PM Guns terrify me. I don't think they should be illegal or anything, but I personally just don't like them. —mandeemoo22 |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 10:15 PM so a gun makes you feel less intimidated by people who are bigger, stronger or taller than you? guns being equalizers... well, all guns are not equal. not everyone has a gun at all but that's not important, gun fans argue everyone should have one. so not all guns are equal plus the skill with a gun is not the same in everyone. it's a different physical proficiency to being able to bench press 200 kilograms but it's a proficiency nevertheless. it's a pecking order on a different axis. it's a new zeitgeist.
if guns are the great equalizer then why haven't humans become equal since guns were invented?
also, if guns are the great equalizer then why are people living in gun-saturated environments (e.g. ghettos, country towns, war zones) among the least equal (i.e. poorest) of all humanity? —MajandraFan |
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 11:28 PM if guns are the great equalizer then why are people living in gun-saturated environments (e.g. ghettos, country towns, war zones) among the least equal (i.e. poorest) of all humanity? Because they end up dead on a street riddled with bullets - or being raped in prison because the rape/murder/robbery/etc did not go according to plan even with the great god of war in thier hands, leaving thier 5 or 6 children alone with 5 or 6 single mothers. —AceRockollaisAce |
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Friday, November 3, 2006 at 2:18 AM Guns are really convenient if you want to kill somebody. —greymatters |
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Friday, November 3, 2006 at 10:45 AM
Edited Friday, November 3, 2006 at 10:48 AM <<<<"Are your pocket guns registered?" Registered with who? It always amazes me when people make that assumption, because there's only a few backward states in the U.S.A. that require registration. Actually it's chilling because it demonstrates the depth of the media brainwashing and/or LACK of gun education by parents. <<<<"Is it hard to get a license? License to do what? <<<<"I'm almost 18, is there any way for me to get a pistol before I turn 21?" Those are all LEGAL questions, and you don't seem to realize that fact, because you didn't divulge or remind me just where on earth you live. However, you are CORRECT to assume that I could give you the information you're asking for, but I still need to know basic things like where the hell you live. <<<<<"I just want a 22 to hunt with," Go to walmart and get a Ruger 10/22. You'll thank me when you see other people who bought cheaper .22s (which wal mart DOES carry), as they complain about their gun's low capacity and/or other problems. <<<<<"...a shotgun to just have," If you insist on having a shotgun, get a remington 870 from wal mart. Again, you'll thank me when you see others with their sloppy and or broken Mossbergs (that they only saved $40 on). The shotgun is over hyped and over rated. There's a REASON the gun ban capitol U.K. still allows them. They are heavy and have a VERY low capacity. They're good for birds and clays. Their size and kick has almost everyone thinking they are the "ultimate" home defense gun, when they are the worst. Shotguns are hard to maneuver around corners. As has been stated, they're good on farms for things like foxes though. Twice in this thread I think, I've been nagged with the idiotic question "why do you need so many?" The arrogant people asking it don't see the hypocrisy in it, or the fact that there's no answer to it. It seems to escape them that for all intents and purposes, it's only GUN OWNERS who get singled out and asked that dumbass question. Most gun owners try to answer it without realizing that the entire premise of it is misguided. >>>>...and like a 9mm pistol to keep next to the bed." Get a variety of 9mms. Variety = fun = options >>>>>...And how the hell did your hands on a MAC? MACpistol.com MasterPiece Arms
>>>>>I cant really be assed to look but I am sure McVie wrote that as he didn't hunt he did not have rifles - those look like fucking big hand guns dude."
That's why no one asks you anything, because you're always wrong. I think that's been the cause of some of your diversionary/out of touch posts in the past, you flat out don't pay attention, or as adam would say, you don't "sweat the details." I've lost track how many times I've had to restate things to you after you've not paid attention and run in some bizarre direction. Needless to say, I never said that I "did not have rifles." You just made that up out of thin air, kind of like most of your arguments. <<<<<"Guns terrify me. I don't think they should be illegal or anything, but I personally just don't like them." —mandeemoo22 That kind of emotionalism is always interesting to watch. It's an admission that the analytical part of the brain is being overpowered by the emotions and hormones of the body. On one hand, it's the most typical female response I could imagine, but on the other hand, I've known a LOT of women who are smarter than to be "terrified" by an inanimate object, or to harbor "dislike" for an inanimate object. In the end though, most women refuse to rise above their estrogenic programming, or the more powerful programming from the FEMALE COLLECTIVE. Never underestimate that last one because it's amazing how women take their cues from OTHER women as they simultaneously have disgust for other women and the collective itself. A great example is how all women bash "women's magazines" or "women's t.v." (lifetime, oprah etc) yet they all buy them and watch it regularly. They try to separate themselves from the female collective when around other women by proclaiming for example, "I don't buy from Oprah's book club," yet they have a house full of Cosmo, Redbook, and watch lots of lifetime. Obviously, the specifics change from woman to woman, but the pattern of duality and denial mixed with ultimate loyalty to the female collective is identical and to be expected. <<<<"if guns are the great equalizer then why haven't humans become equal since guns were invented?" OMFG we need to shut down these awful government schools. If analytical thinking were taught, questions like that would never waste our time or the vibrations upon our eardrums or bother the rods and cones in our eyes. That question has two opposing subjects lumped together as if they're the same: a specific, concrete reality, and the abstract "humans as a whole." Guns being "the great equalizer" is a specific concept relying on specific instances. That saying NEVER referred to the abstract concept of "humans" as a WHOLE, it refers to something literal: the specific response to force. The government schools have most people brainwashed into thinking holistically most of the time. "Whole language" learning has replaced teaching concepts of correct vs. incorrect. Deductive and inductive reasoning? Ha, fugetaboutit! —striker |
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Friday, November 3, 2006 at 12:31 PM Twice in this thread I think, I've been nagged with the idiotic question "why do you need so many?" The arrogant people asking it don't see the hypocrisy in it, or the fact that there's no answer to it. It seems to escape them that for all intents and purposes, it's only GUN OWNERS who get singled out and asked that dumbass question. Most gun owners try to answer it without realizing that the entire premise of it is misguided. Just for once in your life answer the fucking question but I still need to know basic things like where the hell you live. Dont tell him he will come round and kill you - knowledge is power —AceRockollaisAce |
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Friday, November 3, 2006 at 1:48 PM Ass, for once think logically and not emotionally. When someone asks a completely stupid question such as "need," just what "answer" is possible? Go ask that same question of someone who collects ANYTHING else, and you'll see what an idiotic question it is. It's a question that is asked with arrogance and hostility, so it properly should be responded to by reflecting that same arrogance and hostility right back at the dumbfuck who asked it. See, if it was a legitimate and specific question for legitimate information, such as why do I have 3 S&W .22 semi autos, I would then say it is so we don't have to share guns when we go shooting. There, see asshole, to get a specific answer out of me, just ask a legitimate and specific question that has at least an ounce, er sorry, at least a MILLIGRAM (I forgot, you guys don't use your own english measurements anymore) of intelligence. <<<"Guns are really convenient if you want to kill anobody." —greymatters grey = ano's ex? —striker |
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Friday, November 3, 2006 at 2:01 PM if it was a legitimate and specific question for legitimate information, such as why do I have 3 S&W .22 semi autos How could I ask that question I dont even know what that is - jesus chrust man that could be a fucking car for all I know. —AceRockollaisAce |
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Friday, November 3, 2006 at 2:21 PM It's a shame you've allowed your government to not allow you to have one of these. They're just a ton of fun. Click on pic for more info from S&W's website. 
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 12:09 AM Let's see if I understand this correctly, striker. You say it's only GUN OWNERS who get asked why they need so many GUNS? Hmmmm...Thought provoking. —Dusty TheHick |
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 12:15 AM
Edited Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 12:16 AM It's a shame you are never going to have one of these. They're just a ton of fun. For striker NWS —AceRockollaisAce |
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 6:01 AM
Edited Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 6:15 AM <<<"Let's see if I understand this correctly, striker. You say it's only GUN OWNERS who get asked why they need so many GUNS?" Let's compare with what I've actually said throughout this thread: "Go ask that same question of someone who collects ANYTHING else, and you'll see what an idiotic question it is." "Substitute guns for an "approved" item, almost whatever item you wish, and you'll see that..." "...the idiotic question 'why do you need so many?' The arrogant people asking it don't see the hypocrisy in it, or the fact that there's no answer to it. It seems to escape them that for all intents and purposes, it's only GUN OWNERS who get singled out and asked that dumbass question." I thought I made it clear that the low intelligence question for which gun owners are routinely singled out is "why do you need so many?" That question has a brain dead relative. So in total, there are two really stupid and similar questions that people routinely single gun owners out to ask: 1. "Why so many?" 2. "Why do you need..." —striker |
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 7:31 AM I like guns, mostly for home defense. I am away from home often. If the wife were to hear someone breaking into the house in the middle of the night she would be better of if the bad guy hears her chambering a round in the shotgun, chunk-chunk, than her talking to the 9-1-1 operator. In the time it takes for the police to arrive lots of evil could have been inflicted on her. I support the NRA and no one who opposes the NRA is forced to own a gun. When the world gets turned upside down and you have to call the police it is their firepower and training that is the difference between good guys win or bad guys win. I prefer not to have to wait for cops to arrive in an emergency. We have the training and firepower to restore civilization if needed. I don't see some drug-impaired miscreant breaking into the homestead being aminable to negotiation. Nighttime + breaking and entering = death by gunshot at my house. —shortwave5205 |
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 at 11:42 AM That question has a brain dead relative. So in total, there are two really stupid and similar questions that people routinely single gun owners out to ask: 1. "Why so many?" 2. "Why do you need..." And you still have not answered these two really stupid and similar questions —AceRockollaisAce |
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 at 8:52 AM "And you still have not answered these two really stupid and similar questions" That is a compliment. —striker |
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 at 10:26 AM You gave me a compliment and didn't even know it. lol The intelligent person doesn't answer stupid questions, but oh well, gets called a name by someone who insists that the question he just admitted is stupid, be answered. ace, exactly how MANY extra chromosomes do you have? —striker |
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 at 12:51 PM He did answer your question, Ace. In all honesty, everyone on this board may not like Striker's position, but none of you are defeating his arguments. I was all confused at first, because I was like, "wow, I thought StrYker was a angst-filled, drug-filled kid who can barely string two sentences together without crying or threatening suicide" But, then I saw the different spelling of the names. Yep.
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 at 8:22 PM <<<<"if guns are the great equalizer then why haven't humans become equal since guns were invented?" OMFG we need to shut down these awful government schools. If analytical thinking were taught, questions like that would never waste our time or the vibrations upon our eardrums or bother the rods and cones in our eyes. That question has two opposing subjects lumped together as if they're the same: a specific, concrete reality, and the abstract "humans as a whole." Guns being "the great equalizer" is a specific concept relying on specific instances. That saying NEVER referred to the abstract concept of "humans" as a WHOLE, it refers to something literal: the specific response to force. The government schools have most people brainwashed into thinking holistically most of the time. "Whole language" learning has replaced teaching concepts of correct vs. incorrect. Deductive and inductive reasoning? Ha, fugetaboutit! —striker Getting specific isn't that great. The specific response to force defines everything for organic creatures. Like Huey Newton says, existence is violent. Saying otherwise is hypocritical. What are you, a vegetarian?
I didn't go to a governent school. The educational system in this country is quite different to your northern hemisphere experience. Luxuries of backwater living and all that.
I like guns, mostly for home defense. I am away from home often. If the wife were to hear someone breaking into the house in the middle of the night she would be better of if the bad guy hears her chambering a round in the shotgun, chunk-chunk, than her talking to the 9-1-1 operator. In the time it takes for the police to arrive lots of evil could have been inflicted on her. I support the NRA and no one who opposes the NRA is forced to own a gun. When the world gets turned upside down and you have to call the police it is their firepower and training that is the difference between good guys win or bad guys win. I prefer not to have to wait for cops to arrive in an emergency. We have the training and firepower to restore civilization if needed. I don't see some drug-impaired miscreant breaking into the homestead being aminable to negotiation. Nighttime + breaking and entering = death by gunshot at my house. —shortwave5205 Has your wife ever been in this situation? Does she know how to handle a firearm? Has she ever shot anyone? Could she?
The police are not powerful because of their armaments nor training. They are powerful because of their overwhelming numbers and entrenchment in society as accepted enforcers.
I'm talking about witnessing, fugitive living, etc. They are the powerful weapons that police possess. Take a look at the occupational soldiers in Iraq. If you follow the news then you see how soldiers can't handle the population. They are not accepted like police. They are far better armed and their training is more encompassing. They can't stop the constant violence. You should support a lifestyle that nurtures egalitarianism. Criminals thrive in poverty. Burglars and robbers are either poor stealing from poor or they're robbing wealthy people. Either way, guns don't help the situation. You don't know what civilization is. You cannot restore it, create it, nor even recognise if the civilization you live in, if any, is deteriorating.
He did answer your question, Ace. In all honesty, everyone on this board may not like Striker's position, but none of you are defeating his arguments. I was all confused at first, because I was like, "wow, I thought StrYker was a angst-filled, drug-filled kid who can barely string two sentences together without crying or threatening suicide" But, then I saw the different spelling of the names. Yep. —Masteel Striker hasn't put forth a position and he hasn't made any arguments. I've asked him to but he hasn't. He still insists on crowing like he has, which is odd. —MajandraFan |
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 at 8:43 PM Striker hasn't put forth a position and he hasn't made any arguments. I've asked him to but he hasn't. He still insists on crowing like he has, which is odd. That was my impression as well. Sound and fury, but no content.
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Monday, November 6, 2006 at 3:00 AM That was my impression as well. Sound and fury, but no content. Ditto, but he is entertaining in his blowhardness —AceRockollaisAce |
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Monday, November 6, 2006 at 3:28 AM I haven't been paying enough attention to really tell one way or the other. Why can't you all learn from my example? —Elvis-In-ZT |
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Monday, November 6, 2006 at 4:19 PM I'm CLOSE to following it, zeet. I usually just read the first line of each of his paragraphs, just to see if he's saying ANYTHING new. —Dusty TheHick |
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Monday, November 6, 2006 at 7:21 PM Ditto, but he is entertaining in his blowhardness I might agree with you but I don't want to encourage him.
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Monday, November 6, 2006 at 11:24 PM I might agree with you but I don't want to encourage him. I cant help myself he is so dam funny and easy to get going and lets be honest with out him around some days nobody would be posting. —AceRockollaisAce |
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Monday, November 6, 2006 at 11:26 PM and lets be honest with out him around some days nobody would be posting. Which would be perfectly fine. —bguirk |
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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 at 12:29 AM You have to imagine me sat at work bored stiff - looking for any entertainment - this board is it and striker therefore helps my boring days at work pass slightly faster. —AceRockollaisAce |
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Friday, November 10, 2006 at 1:29 AM so that's it then striker? you really can't answer? you're still coming like you mean it in every other thread. a direct simple line of questioning ahuts you up real fast though, doesn't it. come on son, show me you still have a spine —MajandraFan |
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Friday, November 10, 2006 at 2:38 AM striker, thanks for the advice. I'll probably end up following you up on it, cause I have no experience buying them and little shooting them. I live in central California in a mostly conservative city and I turn 18 in March. —Stryker311 |
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Friday, November 10, 2006 at 8:14 AM In march, the world will become just a smidge safer. —anobody |
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Monday, November 13, 2006 at 6:53 PM <<<"so that's it then striker? you really can't answer?" Answer what. I took a no doz and read your second to last post and found a question about my wife. Yea she can shoot. Why does that matter to you. —striker |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 2:54 PM How about the original post that directly questions all the ridiculous assertions you've made about guns over the last X months. I was planning to now, after your third strike, to conjure up the wind without you but I really can't be bothered. I accept your defeat. You're a disappointing coward. —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 3:32 PM You're all sour grapes and no specifics. You pretend there's substance in your original post, but all I see are vague subjective questions. Talk about utter desperation to go on and on about how "defeated" you think I am, as you try to salvage/extract something usable (i.e. specific and concrete) from your original post. I have to laugh at people who hide behind vague and subjective so called "questions" as they call others cowards. All through this thread you just get more bitter for some reason. If I was truly being "defeated" or "cowardly" then why the need for all the angry, bitter ranting out of you? I reviewed this thread and it is rather embarrassing for you. Right out of the gate you claim you want "specific reasoning," then when I provide it, you stomp your feet and loudly claim you're "questions" are being ignored. The truth is you attempted to corner me with vague subjective "questions," and then pouted like a 1st grader when my very specific responses were not what you wanted to hear. If you would stop your pouting for half a second and actually read what I've said in your little thread, you'll see (but probably won't admit) that I've answered everything that is SPECIFIC AS WELL AS CONCRETE. I think your HOPE was to get me to dignify your vague and subjective so called "questions." Instead, I exposed them for what they are: NON questions that do not have concrete answers because they are OPINION based. This thread was a cheap and very shallow attempt to get me to argue with a hostile person about things (falsely presented as concrete "questions" when they are NOT) that are personal and OPINION BASED. Since trashing opinion is EASY, this thread was a pitiful attempt to put me in a position of arguing OPINION with someone. The real question is WHY would you want an OPINION based debate? Cuz it's EASIER? Hmmm, kind of, how you like to say, COWARDLY doncha think. Clearly none of that stuff WORKED because I have not avoided your thread, while at the same time staying 100% on topic. To be honest, it kind of looks like I took over your thread. No wonder you're pouting and stomping your feet so loud.
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 3:41 PM The United States is a de facto oligarchy. We who were born and raised in this so-called land of the free and home of the brave naturally resist such blunt accusations. We all like to believe we live in a free, democratic society. But a child need only observe the antics of the Republicrats and Demo(CRAP)ublicans to quickly realize there is more than meets the eye. Instead of addressing the needs of their constituents, these craven swindlers are more interested in lining their pockets and engaging in absurd intrigues in the corrupt Washington court. But we mustn't be too hard on these men and women. After all, they are only servile footmen carrying out marching orders from a sinister international cult of amoral usurers and fascist sociopaths headquartered variously in Geneva, Rome, and the Hague. —ZT-In-Recovery |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 3:46 PM You didn't answer my questions. You answered everyone's but mine.
My questions were really just the one question, duh. Why do you like guns? (you fucking piece of shit) The subject is you, son. The question is for you. You are the gun lover? Why do you like guns. The subject is guns. The subject is you. The question is not vague. Answer the goddamn fucking question you evasive arrogant filth. Answer my question honestly and directly. You cocksucker, answer! —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 3:53 PM Nah, "Rome" doesn't seem to have any insider power over the globalist power structure that chose bush to be their front man. You correctly left out the U.N. as being a "headquarters," because the U.N. was merely a small piece of what the globalists created. It's just a foot in the door. At BEST, the U.N. enables genocide so that there can be predictable calls for "more power" for the U.N. The nations are not interested in giving the U.N. any more REAL power, such as a standing army and it's own taxing "authority." WWIII will be used to get people to demand THOSE things. Man I'd love to be wrong about that, but after two world wars that the globalists used to increase their power, it dudn't look good. The globalist power structure doesn't have a true and open "headquarters," because by definition, it operates behind the scenes. It's power is quite immense though. I haven't seen any nations actually leave the U.N., LET ALONE start their own competing globalist organization, LET ALONE get rid of the central banks within their nations (which are all virtually identical in substance regardless of the political system in power). —striker |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 4:00 PM So is that your explanation for your gun amour or are you still unable to answer? —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 4:01 PM **thinks to self: "do I let mangina fan continue to explode with rage or do I try to calm him down? Hmm, it's just too good NOT to watch."** 
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 4:04 PM i also don't see how smiley face animations go with your hardcore persona.
Come on guy. All hobbies waste energy and time. Yours seems incredibly boring. It's dangerous, expenisve. On top of all this you mock people who don't share your fetish as being inferior. You haven't given a single reason for your bizarre behaviour. Do you even have a reason that you are consciously aware of?
Why do you love guns? —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 4:11 PM You're giving me a FANTASTIC reason to love guns right now: to make ignorant, bitter, know nothings do this as they try to figure out WHY OH WHY?????? 
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 4:20 PM my list outweights yours as moses' brick outweighed the gold coins of rameses' false accusations.
and since you're not precognizant it's a false reason anyway.
so come on slut, why do you love guns?
cute picture by the way. what a female way of trying to wheedle out of a situation, by appealing to whichever side of the brain a pseudointellectual like you thinks is responsible for emotions and is dominant in females. goddamn you suck. —MajandraFan |
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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 6:20 AM This thread was a cheap and very shallow attempt to get me to argue with a hostile person about things (falsely presented as concrete "questions" when they are NOT) that are personal and OPINION BASED. Since trashing opinion is EASY, this thread was a pitiful attempt to put me in a position of arguing OPINION with someone. The real question is WHY would you want an OPINION based debate? Cuz it's EASIER? Hmmm, kind of, how you like to say, COWARDLY doncha think. As personal and opinion based is your middle name striker you must be a fffing hypocrite to accuse others of that type of stance.
i.e. you tell me I live in a country which wants to be armed - Your opinion and only your opinion - Just like you misread a newspaper article and assume that everybody has knives and is killing everybody - Your opinion is guns would make my world safer. etc etc —AceRockollaisAce |
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Friday, November 17, 2006 at 6:11 PM <<<"i.e. you tell me I live in a country which wants to be armed - Your opinion and only your opinion -" I didn't say "country" per se, I said PEOPLE, humans, your male neighbors, potential victims (unless you want to claim that there's NO crime, murders, rapes etc in the U.K. now). I'm not talking opinion, I'm talking FACT, and TRUTH. If YOU came to one of our gun shows, your natural instinct would bypass your brainwashing and allow you to enjoy picking one up, and whether you admitted it or not, you would (probably secretly) wish you could own one. Take 99% of the males in the U.K. and they would have the SAME reaction and you damn well know it, but you'll probably try to lie about that too. Men are men, and guns are cool. That fact is true, and it's bigger than you, bigger than me, and bigger than the DENIAL that you and many males in the U.K. keep pushing just because it's politically "correct." Humans have a natural desire to defend themselves with the best tools possible and males enjoy guns at a biological level if allowed the chance for half a second by the overbearing women and femmy "men" in this world and their overbearing tyrannical governments. Just because you have created a government that does not allow men much of a chance does not change reality. Now I sincerely want to hear/read you try to argue and tell me that I'm not telling the truth here. Unless you're actually female, you KNOW that what I'm saying is the truth. You know it deep and you've known these things from the time you were a kid. Every male here knows from a lifetime of EXPERIENCE the truths I'm talking about and they'll know you're a LYING piece of euroTRASH if you try to deny them. —striker |
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Friday, November 17, 2006 at 11:54 PM heh heh heh ha ha ha stikers got a little weeney I mean really man why oh why do you feel so incomplete and unprotected without guns? I on the othert hand am well hung and comfortable walking around unarmed because I know apart from long coat wearing cammo'ed up teens walking around American Schools and Malls and shooting up the place before blowing thier own dumb heads off that the world (or at least the parts of it I wish to travel) is full of normal people living normal lives with out needing a gun to feel complete or achieve orgasm. —AceRockollaisAce |
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Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 8:26 AM People who own guns run a greater risk of being killed by a gun. And the more guns one has the more likely it becomes. So, for the love of God people, stop trying to talk striker out of owning guns. Let the situation resolve itself. —Beat It! |
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Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 8:55 AM Maybe we need to get Janet Reno involved to accelerate the process. —anobody |
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Monday, November 20, 2006 at 11:17 AM <<<"And the more guns one has the more likely it becomes." -Beet It I think even ace can see how stupid and ignorant that statement is. Please inform us Beat Shit of how owning 10 guns makes one "run a greater risk of being killed by a gun" than owning 9. By your "logic," every gun dealer should need to be replaced every year or so after his hundreds of guns magically point themselves at him and shoot him.. —striker |
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Monday, November 20, 2006 at 11:28 AM I'm still waiting for your "logic" as to why you have any guns, dude.
Oh wait, you can't answer direct questions. You have to go after throwaway comments on unrelated tangents. —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 6:08 PM TPAM is or will be a furry. —plurry |
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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 6:13 PM I'm still the only one who has posted pics of their gun(s). Sure are a lot of gutless wonders out there. —striker |
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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 6:16 PM Sorry, why do you have guns? Too gutless to say? Afraid of having your silly motivations torn to shreds?
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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 12:14 AM TPAM is or will be a furry. I thought Lexie was saying she wanted the tits, and not the fur. —greymatters |
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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 1:07 AM manjina fan, you know what's ironic? If guns were RE-legalized in your leftist/marxist hellhole of a country, the people who liked guns would buy them, the femmys like you who were scared of them wouldn't, and you wouldn't be obsessed about other people's property and motivations. So in effect, idiotic gun bans not only violate basic rights to property, but they embolden children such as yourself to obsess about "why why why do you own this unapproved item." Again I wonder if you ask that same moronic question to people about OTHER items of property. I doubt it, because you're too much of a coward. The only reason you care so much about gun owners is GOVERNMENT HAS GONE AHEAD OF YOU, done the HARD part, and waged aggression and stolen guns from your countrymen, and made it "politically correct" (and thus safe for cowards like you) to mimic government and attack gun owners with REALLY stupid questions. I DARE you to take this same hostile attitude and go ask someone "why" they have the things they like. You don't have the guts because you know you'll get your ass kicked. —striker |
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