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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 5:23 PM Generation Facebook is taking action — against Facebook. On Tuesday morning the popular social networking site unrolled a new feature dubbed the "News Feed" that allows users to track their friends' Facebook movements by the minute. For many of Facebook's 8-million plus student users, it was too much. Within 24 hours, hundreds of thousands of students nationwide organized themselves to protest the new feature. Ironically, they're using Facebook to do it. The feature in question appears on the user's home page and looks like a glitzy laundry list. It chronicles every action a user's friends have recently taken on Facebook. These include the mundane: Sally befriended Joan, the boring: Tim now likes The Daily Show, and the juicy: John and Beth broke up. And in case it matters, each action is time-stamped to the minute. By its nature, News Feed is intrusive and that's what upsets students. It's one thing to casually check out a friend's updated profile between classes. It's another to be unwillingly inundated with each friend's latest Facebook antics. The News Feed does not have an off switch, although users can block or limit non-friends from seeing their profiles, which feed directly into the News Feed. At the very least, the aggrieved students want the option of a News Feed off-switch. Some want Facebook to do away with it completely.
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 5:27 PM I like it, I don't have to click photos and status and notes, and it tells me all sorts of stuff I never used to find out. —chix0r |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 5:36 PM As soon as I saw this story on CNN, I thought "ZT's going to post this." True story. —Jaffa Cakes |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 5:40 PM hahahahaha
My friend just got busted because his girl went to his facebook page and saw things she wasn't supposed to see. —Had To Get It On |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 5:44 PM I don't like it at all. It just takes up too much space. —mandeemoo22 |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 6:24 PM You can get rid of the mini-feed on individual profiles and it's not like there's anything on the home page that it's replacing, really. —chix0r |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 6:47 PM So glad I'm not part of generation (wh)Y (were you ever born) and I don't feel the need to endlessly blather and express the goings on in my life. "today I went on myspace and wrote about how I'm not keeping up enough on my blog and livejournal pages and how that bitch Kathy totally lied about hooking up with Joe. I found out on facebook and Kelly im'd me about it after lunch. People are going to shit when this hits the RSS feed." As much as I hate your culture I hate the people from my generation who are creating it for you more. I'm going to go kill Carson Daily and Ryan Seacrest and it'll totally look like a love-pact suicide. —bguirk |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 8:20 PM Facebook is becoming like MySpace. Both started as a small project, with good intention, which have gradually metamorphed into something that aides the young stalkers and pedophiles (though thats more of a MySpace characteristic) of the world. But hey..... GOOD TIMES —I Say Good Day |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 9:23 PM bguirk, how DARE you! You cannot judge! We all cannot judge! Different generation, different culture. No JUDGING! But I hate the Facebook thing too, although I like the part where it tells you who is single and who isn't. In for the kill. —drakeguy19 |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 10:18 PM Yeah the new facebook sucks, its too informative and cumbersome. Myspace and facebook are like coke and pepsi. Both great ways to sort of meet people and try to get as much attention as possible. —Darkfloyd |
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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 at 10:39 PM I love the feed. I'm the kind of person who likes to know absolutely everything, so I'm going nuts. —TortillaFactory |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 8:35 AM Heh, I almost never get on Facebook. I just now learned about this from the thread. —Dark Laith |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 10:10 AM I would sign up for Facebook but I'm afraid too much information about me would be revealed and too many people would find me. Which might put a damper on my online trolling. —Had To Get It On |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 4:17 PM bguirk, how DARE you! You cannot judge! We all cannot judge! Different generation, different culture. No JUDGING! But I hate the Facebook thing too, although I like the part where it tells you who is single and who isn't. In for the kill. —drakeguy19 A few kids from this culture have made it into my program. Next one I see checking their e-mail mid lecture gets smacked upside the head with their own laptop. Don't they realize their parents are paying good money for them to be there? —bguirk |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 5:47 PM A few kids from this culture have made it into my program. Next one I see checking their e-mail mid lecture gets smacked upside the head with their own laptop. Don't they realize their parents are paying good money for them to be there? —bguirk Are you a professor? —zt-in-hell |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 6:23 PM Sorry they're ruining "your" program. Since they're in it, and they or by extension their parents are paying for it, doesn't that make it just as much "their" program as yours? Look at it this way, they're free to waste time checking their email, don't be so uptight and just TEACH THE BABIES! —drakeguy19 |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 6:38 PM Are you a professor? Nah - he's a grad student. So am I, but I'm the guy sitting in class with my PowerBook.
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 6:59 PM My boyfriend likes to play Tetris during class. I can't help but give the prof my full attention even when they're just reading aloud from the book. —chix0r |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 8:07 PM Last year, I fell asleep in every political theory class without fail. I pay attention as much as possible now, but I do doodle a lot. —mandeemoo22 |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 9:33 PM Are you a professor? —zt-in-hell Every single prof I've ever had just rolled over in their grave. Last year, I fell asleep in every political theory class without fail. I had a seminar my freshman year at 4:30 in the afternoon on breezy spring days and all 12 snoozed from time to time. One girl dropped her very heavy pen on the table as she nodded off and screamed. Look at it this way, they're free to waste time checking their email, No they're not. When did it become OK to IM or e-mail during class? I was in undergrad classes as recently as '04 and no one did it. If you pulled that shit during a meeting while your boss was talking you'd get canned. My last job fired an intern for doing this during a dev meeting. Part of college is supposed to socialize you into the real world. If there's 500 people in the room and you're in the back that's one thing, but 20 in a seminar and you can't even muster up enough respect to listen to who's talking? You might as well take a dump on the podium. —bguirk |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 9:42 PM Not to defend them, but in the long run, isn't the joke on the people who don't pay attention? I mean, aren't they the ones who end up not doing well in class and pissing away their education? Also, although I'm almost always doing something else, I'm usually focused on what the professor is saying (and, in most cases, if I'm not doing something else during a lecture, I'll go completely insane from boredom).
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 9:44 PM
Edited Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 9:52 PM I had a seminar my freshman year at 4:30 in the afternoon on breezy spring days and all 12 snoozed from time to time. One girl dropped her very heavy pen on the table as she nodded off and screamed. In one chemistry class, a guy dosed off while one of his arm was propping his head up. The arm lost its place on the desk, and slipped, resulting his face hitting the side of the desk. He fell to the ground and when he got up, his face was all bloody. Good times. ---
I couldnt get a facebook account because instead of setting up a college email account, I just use my regular email account to substitute it. Im glad I didnt get it; having myspace is already retarded enough. —HocusPocus |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 11:44 PM fun fact: facebook infects your computer with AIDS. —plurry |
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 at 11:45 PM plurry, if you were going to art school, you'd have a Facebook too. —greymatters |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 12:21 AM yeah, but since i'm not and can't have an account, i have to rag on it.
that's what i do. i'm a board certified hater specialist. —plurry |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 4:15 AM Not to defend them, but in the long run, isn't the joke on the people who don't pay attention? —anobody Lecture has always been worthless to me. Read the book, talk to your professor if you don't understand what's going on. —zt-in-hell |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 6:10 AM I talk to my professors even if I do know what is going on so that I can flirt with them in the hopes of getting to sleep with them. This semester is really unfortunate though because all of them are either gay, women, or elderly. —mandeemoo22 |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 6:12 AM I'm the exact opposite - if I sit in lecture, I absorb and retain just about everything, but I'm usually too lazy or undisciplined to bother reading the text (I didn't even bother buying one for psychology this semester). —anobody |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 7:30 AM I'm the exact opposite - if I sit in lecture, I absorb and retain just about everything, but I'm usually too lazy or undisciplined to bother reading the text This used to be me, but I'm trying to change my ways. —bguirk |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 10:38 AM Mark Zuckerberg the big pussy wrote: This may sound silly, but I want to thank all of you who have written in and created groups and protested. Even though I wish I hadn’t made so many of you angry, I am glad we got to hear you. And I am also glad that News Feed highlighted all these groups so people could find them and share their opinions with each other as well.
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 1:32 PM Bguirk, anobody put what I was trying to say better. It's their time to waste and that's what they're doing when they're IMing etc. When they fail the class maybe they will learn that IMing isn't the best way to absorb information in class. —drakeguy19 |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 4:37 PM If you're going to go clickity-clack with your keyboard during lecture you'd better be doing something useful. Either way both of you guys are wrong. People are paying to be in that room. I'm paying to be in that room and if you're going to do anything remotely distracting it's better if you're just not there. If a guy is im'ing during a symphony performance is that OK? There is something called manners--just because you can get away with something doesn't make it right. —bguirk |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 4:52 PM Well, a lot of people take notes on their computers, so its not really disrespectful to be on one during class. In my sociology class last semester, this guy would always play this bike game on his computer and I would sit and watch him everyday. That was pretty distracting. His name was Igor. It probably still is. He would also always sit in between me and my friends and I thought it was kind of rude of him to not sit on the end or move because we sat there everyday and would always have to talk around him. —mandeemoo22 |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 5:29 PM If you're going to go clickity-clack with your keyboard during lecture you'd better be doing something useful. I'm not going clickity-clack - I have a Mac-n-Touch keypad (from the now defunct FingerWorks). Either way both of you guys are wrong. People are paying to be in that room. I'm paying to be in that room and if you're going to do anything remotely distracting it's better if you're just not there. As Mandee said, lots of people take notes on their computers. If a guy is im'ing during a symphony performance is that OK? There is something called manners--just because you can get away with something doesn't make it right. I agree with you there - BUT there's a huge difference between IMing (even with no sound) in a darkened theater and using a computer (or working on something else on paper that's indistinguishable from taking notes). If I'm writing a program, or reading a Wikipedia article in the back of the room, I'm sorry but I don't feel much sympathy for you if you find that distracting. If you want to call that bad manners, then that's your prerogative but I'd say it's the same as someone student using paper and a quill when many of their peers were still using chalk and a slate. Now, I do occasionally see jackasses playing games or even watching movies - that doesn't bother me but I can certainly understand you finding something like that distracting. —anobody |
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Friday, September 8, 2006 at 10:44 PM
Edited Friday, September 8, 2006 at 10:45 PM Well, a lot of people take notes on their computers, so its not really disrespectful to be on one during class I take notes on my craptop from time to time. Not so much in the math heavy stuff where I have to do a bunch of drawing of graphs, but if it's straight lecture and I brought it then I'll use it. I agree with you there - BUT there's a huge difference between IMing (even with no sound) in a darkened theater and using a computer (or working on something else on paper that's indistinguishable from taking notes). The example wasn't perfect--it was more to illustrate that there should be a basic level of respect between audience and presenter. I could take a nice nap during a piece of music(which is why I don't go to the symphony) and no one on stage would notice, but the people around me who care about the art (not that lecture is art, but whatever)would and it would be detract from some of their experiences. We are social beings and a little courtesy goes a long way. Of all the rights to argue for--the right to go to class and actively not pay attention is a strange one to put so much energy into. It's not like these people HAVE to be there. As for the IMing--If I'm sitting behind you there's a world of difference between you having an open office or word doc open and taking notes in black & white and a 3-4 way chat in 4 colors with text popping up. It's not exactly TV, but the movement is distracting--especially if I'm trying to watch some super boring powerpoint presentation. Before I become the old coot of the forum, a lot of the profs have been emailing our discussion groups telling us to cut out the IM'ing during class or they'll make all the people with laptops sit in the back. There was an uncomfortable moment where a prof called someone out in class today (not mine) and told them to cut it out. If they can tell what's going on from up front then it's time to not do it. Last post on this--promise.
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Saturday, September 9, 2006 at 8:54 AM i can imagine, sure, but i have no specific idea of what facebook is.
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Saturday, September 9, 2006 at 11:27 AM Believe me MJ, you're not missing anything. We are social beings and a little courtesy goes a long way I agree completely. As for the IMing... I'm with you there as well (the best thing is when they have the sound on). especially if I'm trying to watch some super boring powerpoint presentation If their presentation is super boring, maybe the presenter hasn't earned and doesn't deserve the respect of your full attention. I'm not saying that lectures should have the production value of a good TV show, but there is a world of difference between professors who are actually trying and the ones who phone it in. Some people and subjects may be intrinsically more interesting than others *but* even the dullest person teaching the driest subject can make an interesting lecture if they put some effort into it.
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 3:12 AM wutz faysbuk?
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Sorry they're ruining "your" program. Since they're in it, and they or by extension their parents are paying for it, doesn't that make it just as much "their" program as yours? Look at it this way, they're free to waste time checking their email, don't be so uptight and just TEACH THE BABIES!
—drakeguy19
"Y'know, Mr. Hand, I've been thinking about this. If I'M here AND you're here, doesn't that make it OUR time? And surely there's nothing wrong with a little feast on our time."
Just reminded me of it is all.
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 11:30 AM I know I said I wasn't going to post about this any more so I won't post that the following statement: "Use of technologies: Please respect others in the classroom and refrain from the use of laptops, cell phones and other technologies for purposes other than course-related activities during the discussion section." has been placed on an updated syllabus for most of my courses. Maybe someone has been reading this thread. Anyway, I'm done not posting this. —bguirk |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 12:07 PM My American Studies teacher was probably suspicious of me using a laptop every day in his two-hour-long class, where he droned on an on about Hemingway and/or we watched awful films (The Sheltering Sky, anyone?). I actually pay attention better when I'm IMing my friends, honest. But then one time he was curious as to how many people had died in WWII, and I looked it up and told him. He was impressed after that and I became "one of [his] best students." True story. —TortillaFactory |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 1:45 PM One time I was watching Jeopardy with my friend and I looked up the final jeopardy answer and she was so impressed until I told her that I just looked it up and then we laughed. —mandeemoo22 |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 7:31 PM That's funny, Liz. I don't think I could sit through a two hour class. Something magical seems to happen to me as soon as they get past the 50 minute mark - then I start feeling like a speed freak. I look at the clock, it's 2:37. The bugs are crawling under my skin. I'm twitching and sweating. An eternity passes. I'm squirming in my seat. I look at the clock again, and it's 2:37 and 10 seconds. I start contemplating suicide, trying to figure out how I can MacGyver my way into a good death. Can you kill yourself with a deep enough paper cut? Maybe I can pierce my jugular with my pencil. I've been thinking about this for so long, maybe class is almost over how - look at the clock again, and it's 2:37 and 15 seconds. <brando>The horror... the horror...</brando> —anobody |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 7:34 PM I start contemplating suicide, trying to figure out how I can MacGyver my way into a good death.
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 8:41 PM *Hilarious joke about how anobody should kill himself* —mandeemoo22 |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 9:14 PM Isn't death, particularly that kind of death, a sensitive subject within your family? That doesn't sound like a nice thing to do. —greymatters |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 9:17 PM explain yourself.
ps. is anyone else having problems with the forum?
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 9:21 PM Didn't your dad, you know, do something to himself? Or am I mixing people now? My bad. I'm not having problems with the forum. —greymatters |
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 9:24 PM by "do something to himself" you mean kill himself, then yes.
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Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 9:29 PM Wouldn't it be weird if you attempted, threatened or thought about sudoku? coincidence/pattern? You're not speaking in code, now it's all weird. —greymatters |
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Monday, September 11, 2006 at 9:04 AM
Edited Monday, September 11, 2006 at 9:07 AM trey parker married a jap chick. it's on wikipedia, it's offical. —MajandraFan |
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Monday, September 11, 2006 at 2:45 PM Wouldn't it be weird if you attempted, threatened or thought about sudoku? coincidence/pattern? I have attempted sudoku, but it turned out I was using a banana instead of a sword.
coincidence/pattern?
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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 5:58 PM I got myself kicked because I had a religious pic (JC's crucifixion/snickers). Pussy religious people. Oh well.... —swifty |
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Friday, September 15, 2006 at 11:03 AM there's more mileage in the sudoku/seppuku thing.
go for it everyone. i want my nose bleeding with laughter —MajandraFan |
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