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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 10:01 PM The long national nightmare is over. Yeah, it was preseason but there it was on the television in all its glory. Watching the Philly first team dick-slap the Raiders (Aaron Brooks huh, speaking of nightmares) was an oasis in a desert of lesser sports. Anyhow, who ya got? Bucs in the NFC (of course). The AFC is a little trickier. Let's look at the so-called contenders:
The Colts are going to stumble as their window finally slams shut, they'll miss Edge
The Patriots are done plus they lost some of their best players
The Chiefs are never going to a Super Bowl, ever
Now the Broncos look solid, oh wait, is that Plummer back there still? never mind
The Bengals have too many ifs - If Palmer can play, if the defense steps up, if their players get time off for good behavior
The Chargers, uh, no sorry, though I’d like to see them get there, their best quarterback is the running back, generally not a good thing
The Steelers, yeah they could repeat, but it’s lame to pick the same Super Bowl teams the following year, so I’ll pass
The Browns, Titans, Texans, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Raiders,
No, no, no, no, no, no, hell no, no I'm going with either the Dolphins (with a healthy and rejuvenated Culpepper) to pull a miracle or the Jags to start living up to the hints of potential they've flashed. What say you? —Beat It! |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 10:34 PM I say - isn't basketball season coming up soon? —anobody |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 10:42 PM Hey, I'm not the one who's all excited about seeing a bunch of guys in tight uniforms and pads patting each other on the butt and jumping on top of a pile of dudes. . —anobody |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 12:21 AM nothin gay bout a little pat on the butt. I hope the Raiders do better this year. Why oh why didn't they pick Matt or Vince?? I hate Collins, he's old and decrepit. Plus not to mention his gay name, Kerry. That's my buddy's gf's name. I also hope Favre has a standout final season. And my buddy David Carr, straight outta Fresno State will take the Texans far this season. Realistically I'm thinkin Colts, and Cards as a wildcard. —Stryker311 |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 12:29 AM WHO LET THE CARDS OUT!!! Thank God the football gods have answered our prayers and the pigskin is finally flying!
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 7:07 AM Stryker, you do know Kerry Collins was released right? I don't think he's been signed yet by anyone. Yes, he did suck, but I'm not sure Brooks is much better. They're both just good enough to get you beat. —Beat It! |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 9:32 AM
Edited Monday, August 7, 2006 at 9:32 AM I love how the media gets all hyped up about juicing in basedball when 90% of the people in an NFL uniform are on pain meds and the juice. Those people barely resemble human beings. I want my NBA back. —bguirk |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 11:19 AM While I agree that the Patriots are done (Why won't they fucking keep anyone except BRADY?), they're still my team. —ItHadToBeJew |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 11:21 AM I respect that. My team sucked for the majority of their existence, but you gotta stand by them. I still can't believe they let Vinatieri go. What the fuck? Belichik and Kraft seem to have a hard on to prove that all they needs is Brady (and perhaps Bruschi) to win and everyone else is interchangeable. We shall see... —Beat It! |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 4:16 PM >>dick-slap My boyfriend gets hard sometimes slapping his dick against my leg, and it's funny. I didn't read this thread because it's apparently about football. —chix0r |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 4:48 PM This guy at my work makes me want to hate football because that's all he ever talks about. He is an absolute fanatic when it comes to sports. My interest in NBA still stands though. As a guy, I think when your penis slaps against anything, it'll get hard eventually. And it's frustating because I always tend to slap people across the face with my wiener whenever they start making no sense in a conversation. —HocusPocus |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 9:04 PM All I have to say is... See my finger, see my thumb,
We got the ball, you better run!
S-O-C-K, I-T, sock it to me, baby,
My head is achin' my lips are tight,
My hips are shakin' from left to right!
One! Two! Three, four, five! Cass Tech don't take no jive!
Six! Seven! Eight, nine, ten, come on baby we gonna win, OWWW! Cass Tech baby! —drakeguy19 |
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Monday, August 7, 2006 at 10:13 PM Stryker, you do know Kerry Collins was released right? I don't think he's been signed yet by anyone. Yes, he did suck, but I'm not sure Brooks is much better. Seriously? I'm not exactly keeping track of their roster, but I saw the first quarter of the game before I had to leave for the concert, and I swear I heard Michaels say his name in the first couple plays. But if that is his permanent replacement, Brooks? Then we're doomed. He sucks, some of his passes were just plain awful. Once I saw that first pick he threw I got down on my knees and prayed that he was just a back up or something. Hell I'd rather have Philidelphia's back up, Garcia than him. —Stryker311 |
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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at 3:11 AM Bucs in the NFC (of course). Isn't Chris Simms the starting quarterback now? He wasn't even the best quarterback on his team in college, Major Applewhite was better, I don't see good things in his future. Aren't the Bucs in the same division as the Panthers and the Falcons? I see third place in the division and out of the playoffs for TB this year. It's a fact, Jack. —greymatters |
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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at 7:08 AM Simms, you mean the one who led the Bucs to victories over both the Panthers and Falcons late last year in order to secure the division title? Yup, he's the QB. The Panthers are a legit threat, but the Falcons will continue their downward spiral that began last year. Vick is a great athlete but an average at best quarterback. —Beat It! |
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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at 12:11 PM
Edited Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at 12:11 PM Everybody watch your back for the Vikings...They're in arguably the worst division in football [I don't care what their record was last year, the Bears are so overrated...] with the Packers [2-14 anyone?] the Lions [I see 8-8 this year] and The Bears [overrated...9-7 bceause their offense still sucks]. The Vikings have Chester Taylor at running back, who with the best offensive line in the league [Pro Bowlers Matt Birk, Steve Hutchinson and then Bryant McKinnie] and all-world Full Back Tony Richardson, he'll have a huge year. If Brad Johnson can keep his interceptions down and run the West-Coast Offense effectively, and the Vikings defense plays as well as they did in the 2nd half of last year, they'll be on top of the NFC North laughing their way to the playoffs. —andrewwagner777 |
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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at 4:11 PM I'd like to see the Vikes do well, though they should have kept Tice. Who's Johnson's backup there these days? Chances are they'll need him at some point. They don't still have that Bouman, loser do they? —Beat It! |
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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 at 9:10 AM No, Bouman was shipped to New Orleans after being accused of rape or something. They've got Mike McMahon and this Tavaris Jackson rookie, neither of which is really promising or experienced. That's the one thing that concerns me about this years' team is that we don't have a lot of depth at any position. —andrewwagner777 |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 12:00 AM The Chiefs are never going to a Super Bowl, ever Actually, they've already been to a couple, but that was kinda before our time. The Browns, Titans, Texans, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Raiders,
No, no, no, no, no, no, hell no, no How da-- How DARE you, sir! (Actually, if not for the aquisition of McNair, and, hopefully a decent passing game for a change, I'd tend to agree, unfortunately.) (Oh, who am I kidding? I can't COMPLETELY disagree, ANYhow...but as a native Baltimoron, I HAD to protest a LITTLE.) —Dusty TheHick |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 1:55 AM I think The Browns warrant two no's. —catloaf |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 6:08 AM Hmmm..Yeah, I counted from the END, so maybe the "hell no" WASN'T directed at the Ravens. —Dusty TheHick |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 7:09 AM Dusty, the Ravens D is yet another year older, and McNair is injury prone. That thing you have called Kyle Boller is a tool at QB and you have no chance if McNair goes down. —andrewwagner777 |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 9:24 AM ...and Kyle Boller is STILL better than Chris Redman was. Used to frustrate the shit out of me how Billick would insist on announcing he'd be starting QB at the start of each season....and then three games in, would switch. —Dusty TheHick |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 2:12 PM Boller has talent he just makes too many mistakes. and Beat, you're wrong the Raiders AND the Texans will both have standout seasons...or at least better than the Dolphins. Pussiest mascot, btw. —Stryker311 |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 2:34 PM You're right. A dolphin is SO much more pussier than a Cardinal or a Saint or a Bill. What the fuck is a "Bill?" —Dusty TheHick |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 2:37 PM
Edited Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 2:40 PM Everything beats a "Brown." WTF is a "Brown?" edit: It IS a rhetorical question, I DO know who The Browns are named after. —catloaf |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 3:16 PM A Bill is a Clinton, you douche nozzle! And for the man insulting the Chiefs, How DARE---no, no I take that back, I don't care if they have a new coach, Larry Anderson is not going to make 2,000 rushing yards this season, and the Chiefs have as much chance of going to a Super Bowl in this decade as Michael Jackson does of becoming a hermit and moving to the wilderness of Montana. —drakeguy19 |
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 7:07 PM I saw Kyle Boller throw into the end zone from the 50-yard line while on one knee. I think that's why they drafted him in the first round. —greymatters |
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Monday, August 14, 2006 at 2:48 AM Nice to see the Cardinals Pwned the super bowl champs, if only it was a game that matter though ;p. New stadium looks sick, I'm working on getting tickets for the last pre-season game, everything else is sold out and I really don't fill like having to drop $150 for a football game. —rAnCIDsICk@!!! |
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Monday, August 14, 2006 at 6:33 AM Meh I like what the Skins did this offseason. Their defense should be solid, and as long as Brunell has a pulse at QB, their talented receiving corps should get the job done. Plus Clinton Portis is amazing. —andrewwagner777 |
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Monday, August 14, 2006 at 6:41 AM New stadium looks sick, I'm working on getting tickets for the last pre-season game, everything else is sold out and I really don't fill like having to drop $150 for a football game. Yeah, I'd like to check out a game there but that's a bit out of my range till I get a Real Job™. —anobody |
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Monday, August 14, 2006 at 6:42 AM The Redskins will continue to get better as long as Daniel Snyder remembers he's just there to write the checks and stay the fuck away from the team. The Raiders and Texans are going places, huh, Stryker? "Get used to disappointment." —Beat It! |
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Monday, August 14, 2006 at 6:54 PM Raiders AND the Texans will both have standout seasons...or at least better than the Dolphins. The Texans will if their defense plays OK and David Carr doesn't get sacked 40,000 times, but after watching Aaron Brooks today and seeing how ineffective Randy Moss was, [despite the fact that it's a preseason game] I can't see them going ANYWHERE soon. Their defense will be average at best, and they look like they're going to lead the league in penalties for the fourth straight year. Not exactly a formula for success. —andrewwagner777 |
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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 5:18 PM Don't count the Pat's out yet, Beat. It's never been any one particular player, it's the whole team thing. Plus one of the greatest coaches of all time. Always stick by your team. The Patriots were the laughing stock of the AFL and NFL for 40 years. Even when we made it to the 'Bowl the 1st two times, we were laughed at. Dynasty. And although Bruschi is my man, don't forget that we have Rodney Harrison back, and only his mom likes him. —oh-for |
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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 5:58 PM I swear, ABM has gotten funnier in the last two months. —greymatters |
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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 8:42 PM I think unless the Deion Branch thing gets resolved quickly the Pats aren't going to make any waves this year. You can only get rid of so many players before you run out of talent. They keep getting rid of key pieces [couple years ago it was Willie McGinest, this year it was Vinatieri] and expect to keep winning. ABM got boinked, that's why she's more comfortable. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 2:18 PM Only 3 pieces matter for the pats. Bob Kraft the owner of the patriots. He shells out the money and understands they have 2 be competitive if they want to make money from the fans. (He's a nice guy i met him in his luxury box at a NE revolution game.Ask me if you want more details).The second piece is belichick. He is a genius who knows how to call plays as well as well as create a winning team. The third is Brady .....he is a perfect QB 4 belichicks system. The pats will make the playoffs i would put 100 dollars on that. —Mouraless |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 4:06 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 4:07 PM Hmmm, nope, actually they won't. They had a good run though, no shame in that. AFC Playoff teams: Divisional Winners:
Colts, Broncos, Dolphins, Steelers Wildcard:
Jaguars, Ravens —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 4:39 PM I prefer the NFC but it's much easier to figure out. Divisional Winners:
Bucs, Redskins, Seahawks, and whoever scrapes out 9 wins in the North which could be any of them except the Packers Wildcard:
Panthers, Giants (next year for the Cardinals, rancid) Ultimate NFC Champion;
Bucs See, nothing to discuss. —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:07 PM Bucs aren't going to make the playoffs, how will they win the NFC? —greymatters |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:11 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:13 PM No, because, the Falcons, Saints, Eagles, Cowboys, Vikings, Lions, Packers, Rams, Cardinals and 49ers aren't going to make the playoffs. Grey, I thought someone with such a Veronica Mars-like gift for sleuthing would be good at math as well. But I do appreciate your concern. Grey, who you got, by the way? I get a Cowboys or Panthers vibe off of you. —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:15 PM No to Cowboys. I like Steve Smith but no to Panthers. When the Bucs don't make the playoffs, will you admit that I was right? —greymatters |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:17 PM Absolutely. And vice versa, naturally. I'm a fan of Smith as well, too bad he can't play for a better team. —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:20 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:22 PM I like the Giants and the Seahawks to get to the Championship game with the Giants coming out on top. It's Eli Manning's year. EDIT: Oh and no way the Bucs make the playoffs. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 5:24 PM Absolutely. And vice versa, naturally. So, when the Bucs don't win the NFC, I win, right? I'm a fan of Smith as well, too bad he can't play for a better team. So, when the Panthers win the NFC South, I win, right? It's Eli Manning's year. Eli Manning can barely complete 50% of his passes, how is it his year? You suck at football analysis. Oh and no way the Bucs make the playoffs. Okay, you suck a little bit less. —greymatters |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 7:58 PM I think my redskins will do well this year. Despite their preseason spanking in Cincinatti. Better than the 10-6 of last year maybe. Division winners hopefully. I think it's a little weird that Gibbs isn't doing the playcalling but whatever. Let's get Portis back in there. I've been a diehard Redskins fan my entire life...
Sad, I know. Be proud! Better that than be a turncoat. Glory days will return for the hogettes. 1992 all over again! —ProfessorCarbuncle |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:06 PM Eli Manning can barely complete 50% of his passes, how is it his year? You suck at football analysis. Because typically 2nd or 3rd year is when prodigy quarterbacks come into their own and have breakout years. [Look at Carson Palmer] Manning no longer has to worry about losing the starting job and they're in one of the weaker divisions [if not the weakest] in football. Take that analysis and suck on it, Grey. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:07 PM andrewwagner, you suck at everything, just die already. —greymatters |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:10 PM I root for the Jets and Giants.
I expect the Giants to do well this season.
—Had To Get It On when someone screams, "GO GIANTS!" i scream back "GO MIDGETS!" i know. shameless. i'm not proud of it.
maybe just a little.
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:12 PM andrewwagner, you suck at everything, just die already. I'm afraid I'll be around awihle. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:36 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:41 PM typically 2nd or 3rd year is when prodigy quarterbacks come into their own and have breakout years. [Look at Carson Palmer] Manning no longer has to worry about losing the starting job and they're in one of the weaker divisions [if not the weakest] in football. Holy Christ, you should stick to debating anobody where your dubious knowledge shines in comparison to a lesser foe. First off, you don't want to compare Carson Palmer to Eli Manning. Palmer is a better quarterback, period. Plus, Carson sat on the bench his entire first year whereas Eli was the starter by mid-season which means that Palmer has played in about three or four more games than Eli even though he came into the league a year earlier. Yet Palmer is far more accomplished in every statistical category. There is no guarantee Manning will make the leap simply by virtue of him being in his third year. I can find just as many quarterbacks who flamed out in their third year. Generally, it's much later when a quarterback truly comes into his own, if it happens at all or if they can last. In fact, it's probably the only position where as you age you improve because the understanding of the game and the ability to read defenses is something you acquire over time. And the NFC East, with the likely exception of the Eagles, is one of the more evenly balanced divisions. The Redskins and Cowboys are the leaders followed by the Giants. (And, for the record, I'd be happy if the Redskins went 0-16 and the Cowboys perhaps won one game, yet still the fact is they are better teams than the Giants.) —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:52 PM Holy Christ, you should stick to debating anobody where your dubious knowledge shines in comparison to a lesser foe. I actually know quite a bit more sports than I do politics. First off, you don't want to compare Carson Palmer to Eli Manning. Palmer is a better quarterback, period. Plus, Carson sat on the bench his entire first year whereas Eli was the starter by mid-season which means that Palmer has played in about three or four more games than Eli even though he came into the league a year earlier. Yet Palmer is far more accomplished in every statistical category. I didn't directly compare Manning and Palmer. I gave Palmer as an example of a successful 3rd year quarterback. Different quarterbacks respond differently to be thrown into the fire right away. If you look at Roethlisberger, he didn't spend a lot of time on the bench and he played great right away whereas a guy like Alex Smith was thrown into the fire and played like shit [I think his numbers were 1 TD, and 10 or 11 picks]. Manning was solid his first full year of starting and he can only build on that. I watched the first few drives of the game today and was impressed with how accurately he was able to throw the ball [11/14 I think he was]. He's going to have a relatively healthy Shockey which will be good and Barber should post solid numbers again. There is no guarantee Manning will make the leap simply by virtue of him being in his third year. I can find just as many quarterbacks who flamed out in their third year. Generally, it's much later when a quarterback truly comes into his own, if it happens at all or if they can last. In fact, it's probably the only position where as you age you improve because the understanding of the game and the ability to read defenses is something you acquire over time. Fair enough. I think he's got what it takes though. And the NFC East, with the likely exception of the Eagles, is one of the more evenly balanced divisions. The Redskins and Cowboys are the leaders followed by the Giants. (And, for the record, I'd be happy if the Redskins went 0-16 and the Cowboys perhaps won one game, yet still the fact is they are better teams than the Giants.) I agree, the Eagles aren't going to be that good...The Cowboys should be average at best, maybe 9-7. I think TO's too much of a distraction for The Tuna and he'll get fed up with him in a few weeks. I really want to say the Skins are going to have a good year, but I still don't see them being very successful just because of their QB situation. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:56 PM OMG, Beat It!, I think the anobody Gay Army is trying to recruit you. Mwuahahahahaha! —greymatters |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:07 PM Just the fact that you would write that, shows that they are already winning. Oh, the humanity. —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:09 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:09 PM Grey doesn't actually mean it. It's just a bad night for her. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:11 PM "That's exactly what anobodywagner would say." —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:14 PM OMG, Beat It!, I think the anobody Gay Army is trying to recruit you. Mwuahahahahaha! Not only is he already a member, he's the president. —anobody |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:17 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:18 PM Cripes. Anobody's just in time. We're just about to start the swordfighting. —andrewwagner777 |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:18 PM Cripes. Anobody's just in time. We're just about to start the swordfighting. What the fuck, did you just say that? —greymatters |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:20 PM
Edited Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:20 PM Cripes. Anobody's just in time. We're just about to start the swordfighting. - aGA What the fuck, did you just say that? — greymatters That's the funniest goddamn thing I've read in a while. —Beat It! |
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 9:23 PM Excluding everything you've ever written, of course. —anobody |
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Friday, August 18, 2006 at 2:56 AM Bob Kraft the owner of the patriots. He shells out the money and understands they have 2 be competitive if they want to make money from the fans.
I wish he'd educate Peter Angelos on such things. Yeah, I know it's a football thread, not a baseball thread, but CHRIST, that shit chaps my ass!
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