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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 6:59 PM
Edited Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:00 PM IT'S VACCINE/SHOT/POINTY THINGS AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE STORY TIME! I'll start. So today, I got my meningitis vaccine. It's something they like college students to have, because otherwise there might be an epidemic like on that one episode of "House" with the pregnant twelve-year-old.
( ^ SPOILERS.) Downsides include: My arm is sore. Upsides include: AWESOME SPIDERMAN BANDAID.
 So, how does TLC feel about vaccines? Do we agree with Drs. Pinsky and House that they save lives, or do we think they're a drug company racket? Who here has traumatic memories of the tetanus shot? *raises hand* It's sharing and caring time! —TortillaFactory |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:04 PM One time when I was little I got some sort of vaccine and it made me really sick for the night and I didn't like it. I also more recently got a series of vaccines for some form of hepatitis, and it didn't bother me at all. I don't mind needles or anything. That's all I've got. —chix0r |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:09 PM The only traumatic vaccine I had was when I was in 5th or 6th grade...I hadn't had a vaccination for awihle [that I remembered] and I was so horrified by the idea of a shot and I had to be dragged into the room. Then after quite a bit of whining they stuck me with the needle and it didn't hurt. It was a tetanus shot, so my arm hurt for quite awihle after that. That was a good House episode by the way. Nothing like your run of the mill 12 year old whore. —andrewwagner777 |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:13 PM
Edited Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:14 PM One time when I was little I got some sort of vaccine and it made me really sick for the night and I didn't like it. That sucks. I've never had a really bad vaccine, perhaps because I come from strong German stock and am not susceptible to infection. The tetanus hurts, though. I remember they gave me apple juice afterwards, and Mom told me I wouldn't need another one until I'd forgotten about it. Lying bitch. That was a good House episode by the way. Nothing like your run of the mill 12 year old whore. That chick was a damn good actress, I thought. It was interesting how they picked someone so young-looking so you wouldn't suspect - lots of her peers looked much older, when they were probably around the same age. I really like House. My only beef is that while the writers are comic geniuses, they are not very strong when it comes to writing drama. This may not seem like a big deal, but compared to the serious bits on, say, That 70s Show, the serious bits on House are fucking lame. I am not a huge Cameron fan, I'll admit that right now. —TortillaFactory |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:16 PM They are comic geniuses indeed...My only problem with the show is that most of the medical problems have to deal with the patient shaking uncontrollably on the hospital bed. It's much better to watch than E.R., so I don't mind the writers' inability to create intense drama. —andrewwagner777 |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 7:24 PM The symptoms are starting to get a little old. I don't really watch medical shows, but I assume that's just par for the course - I'm willing to put up with a great deal for the glory and wonder that is Dr. House himself. —TortillaFactory |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 8:58 PM
Edited Friday, August 4, 2006 at 9:03 PM Ok, I may be remembering this wrong, but this is what I recall from getting some sort of shot when I was very little, maybe 4. I was so freaked out by the prospect of getting the shot that I had to be given a bubblegum-flavored liquid sedative to calm me down and I fought like hell against even taking the sedative. It wasn't the pain of the shot I was afraid of. I think I believed they were actually trying to euthanize me. True story. edit: Forgive me, I can't stop myself.
I hadn't had a vaccination for awihle*
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 9:14 PM Not my story but I'll share it anyway. My friend is allergic to bees, so after several close calls to death because of stings, his doctors decided to find ouch which bee's venom/poison (is there a difference?) he was allergic to. So, the doctors proceeded to inject him with 28 (i think, might have been more) different venoms from bees, and watched his reaction to each one. It turned out he was allergic to 18 different ones... but luckily they didn't have to inject him with a serum each time, it was a small dose, meaning he just got a fever, rash, and swelling for each one he was allergic to. Yeah. Being allergetic sucks ass. —A Guy in a Chair |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 9:19 PM Generally, a venom is injected whereas a poison is absorbed. (Insert "The More You Know" graphic here.) —catloaf |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 9:44 PM Oh come on don't be a baby. Last time I got a tetanus shot it was in the ass. I had stepped on a nail and you could already see the infection traveling up the vein of my leg. Having said that my vaccination experience is mainly with animals. I don't really know much about vaccines for the two legged. In animals we used to give a lot of the vaccs once a year. Because that was how the FDA approved them. There was never any long term study to test how long their efficacy lasted. So many veterinary practices are now giving vaccines every three years (unless otherwise required by law). I could certainly see similar types of circumstances in the human population. I guess I would probably be a fence straddler. I think the pharmaceutical has got some rackets going on. But I also think that most vaccines we need. I do remember reading about a small town in Washington where the majority refused vaccines. It turned out that many got measles and a couple of kids actually died. So...
Oh wait, you didn't want a serious answer did you. Vaccines are the devil's work.
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 10:29 PM So, how does TLC feel about vaccines? Do we agree with Drs. Pinsky and House that they save lives, or do we think they're a drug company racket? This is one of those things like the abortion debate, gay marriage, euthanasia, burning the flag, evolution, global warming, and the football / baseball thing. People take all of them seriously and act like there are legitimate arguments for both sides, but the evidence is so overwhelming that I can't believe people actually bother talking about them. —anobody |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 11:23 PM
Edited Friday, August 4, 2006 at 11:24 PM I went to the dentists office for the first time in maybe ten years today. The doctor was jabbing and scraping my teeth with that. . . uh, little hooky thingy. . . so hard that I felt like she was one of those crooked mechanics that bang up your car when you leave so they can charge you more. Now she says I'll probably need a lot of work done. Is this common practice or have I been raped in the wallet? —e-Donis |
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Friday, August 4, 2006 at 11:41 PM
Edited Friday, August 4, 2006 at 11:50 PM Yes. —anobody |
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Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 10:13 AM The last vaccinations I had were for hep B and tetanus, both several years ago. Don't remember exactly when. And yeah, the tetanus one did hurt more. I certainly wouldn't say they're a drug company racket, but I've never, say, gotten one of the flu vaccines or anything (at least not that I recall, so if I ever did it was a long time ago and wouldn't be effective anymore) and I haven't, um, died so far, so.... yeah. —Dark Laith |
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Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 11:00 AM The symptoms are starting to get a little old. I don't really watch medical shows, but I assume that's just par for the course - I'm willing to put up with a great deal for the glory and wonder that is Dr. House himself. — TortillaFactory Exactamundo. The show itself can get a little farfetched (doctors breaking into patients homes every other episode?) and comically formulaic, but Hugh Laurie is riveting. —Beat It! |
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Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 11:25 AM
Edited Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 11:31 AM I've never, say, gotten one of the flu vaccines Yeah, a couple of things about the flu vaccine... First, it is important for the elderly, young children, and people with certain preexisting conditions (immune suppression, pregnancy, chronic heart, lung, or liver disease) because they are more likely to actually die of the flu. BUT a. The influenza virus changes constantly, and sometimes dramatically. The vaccine is made months in advance against what experts think will be the most prevalent strain(s). If they guess wrong, it's completely ineffective. b. The clinical presentation of damn near every virus (and lots of other infectious agents) includes 'flu like symptoms' and most of them are not the flu (in fact, most of the time you think or say you have the flu, you don't). c. Side-effects of the vaccine include a low-grade fever and aches (i.e. 'flu-like symptoms') lasting a couple of days. Now that's not as long or severe as the flu, itself, but it has to be weighed against the fact that you're not likely to get the flu, itself, anyway. So the kooks telling you not to take vaccines and that they're a drug company racket have a 64'th of a point, in the case of giving the flu vaccine to healthy, non-pregnant adults. Having said that, unless you're allergic to eggs, there's not much harm in it. In the case of a potential pandemic flu, millions could die, and if the CDC / WHO identified the culprit early enough, vaccination could save many lives, both directly, and through herd immunity. Finally, the flu vaccine is an exception to the rule - just about every other common vaccination (including all of the other recommended childhood ones) are unambiguously a Good Thing™. —anobody |
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Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 6:50 PM I wish they had a vaccine for flea bites. I have like five on my hipbone right now, and that's not cool. —TortillaFactory |
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Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 8:41 PM Ick. Fleas are the worst! Several years ago, we went away for two weeks on vacation and when we got home our apartment was infested with fleas. I was so freaked out. The cat that I had at the time had never even been outside except to and from the car and that was in a carrier, so we couldn't figure out where they'd come from. I found out later that that's actually a common occurence when a place is left undisturbed for any length of time. Still, ew. —catloaf |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 1:45 AM I like House. I almost cried in that episode where that girl had terminal cancer and House thought she got her courage from a disease but it turned out she was just brave. Spoiler alert: she dies (eventually). —greymatters |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 3:23 AM
Edited Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 3:23 AM The only time I specifically remember getting any vaccines was in 1977 (I was 9). We were about to travel overseas, and had to be vaccinated for smallpox and cholera(sp?). The smallpox one was nothing. Nurse just dragged a point across my inner wrist twice, making an 'X.' I was scared about the cholera shot, though, because that was an actual injection, and I had always been TERRIFIED of getting shots. It made my day that it didn't even faze me. In fact, I smiled the rest of the day after that, because I felt so 'grown up.' What a dork. I like boobs. P.S: I got a laugh out of "sharing and caring time." —Dusty TheHick |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 3:25 AM i gave up reading (and sleeping) forever and i skimmed that and saw a big X, so im assuming you're taking ecstasy. good for you. purple playboys im tellin you —Stryker311 |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 8:31 AM Unfortunate reality. Moving on (and back to fleas)... The last apartment I had in Hawaii was on the 4'th floor of a 10 story building. I had two indoor cats who had no contact with the outside world other than looking out over the balcony. A few months before I moved out, the place became infested with a weird strain of mutant superfleas that were incredibly resistant to sprays, dips, bombs, and fire. It took a good two months to eradicate the infestation and I still have no idea how the fuckers got up there (save for the terrible and horrifyingly obvious possibility that I actually gave my cats fleas). —anobody |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 9:41 AM Fleas suck. I got five more bites last night. There's obviously a flea in my room, but I really don't know where to start looking. The vaccine came back to bite me a little. I felt under the weather at work, but I didn't think it was too bad until my boss told me I had blanched white and then flushed bright red in about a minute. She made me take a break, which didn't help much, but I started to feel better as the afternoon went on. Got some twinges in my arm and felt a little feverish/hive-y last night, but I feel much better now. Off to work again shortly, so we'll see how things go. I also found out that one of my co-workers had meningitis as a kid and almost died, so I guess I should be grateful there's a vaccine at all. —TortillaFactory |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 9:57 AM
Edited Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 9:58 AM Yeah, bacterial meningitis is bad (though the vaccine sucks). I got five more bites last night. There's obviously a flea in my room, but I really don't know where to start looking. There's only one way to take 'em out. Neutron bomb, air burst at about 10km. Note that there might be a little collateral damage. —anobody |
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Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Edited Sunday, August 6, 2006 at 11:27 AM The four(?) year old son of a friend of mine lost a foot to Meningitis last year (and, if it hadn't been detected, quite by accident, as soon as it WAS, he'd most likely have died), so yeah..it's not to be dicked around with. —Dusty TheHick |
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