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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 at 11:29 PM
Edited Tuesday, June 6, 2006 at 11:31 PM CNN reports on a study which finds that a disproportionate number of first-graders are overweight when they have authoritarian parents -- the most strict form of parenting. Strict mothers were nearly five times more likely to raise tubby first-graders than mothers who treated their children with flexibility and respect while also setting clear rules.But while the children of flexible rule-setting moms avoided obesity, the children of neglectful mothers and permissive mothers were twice as likely to get fat. The article, while somewhat carefully worded, does lapse into the correlation/causation fallacy: does strict parenting cause the weight problems? What if having overweight kids drives parents to authoritarian methods? Or what if families that feed their kids too much also tend to be stricter?Here's the abstract CiteULike for the study. The researchers are much more careful here, indicating that "Children of authoritarian mothers (n = 298) had an increased risk of being overweight, compared with children of authoritative mothers (n = 179)." This data can't tell us whether strict parenting causes overweight kids. However, the correlation by itself is quite interesting -- and indeed it's plausible that something about authoritarian parenting leads to childhood obesity. Do you have any ideas as to why this relationship might hold? Let us know in the comments. http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2006/06/do_strict_parents_cause_overwe.php —ZT-In-Heat |
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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 at 11:41 PM No its seems strict parents cause sociopaths, drug addicts, and strippers/porn stars. —rAnCIDsICk@!!! |
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TortillaFactory |
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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 at 11:50 PM Short answer: yes. Long answer: yes. Food is comforting. Also, controlling how much you eat is a way of establishing some sort of independence; some kids eat too little, others eat too much. They both die young. Except in Louie Anderson's case. —TortillaFactory |
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ZT-In-Heat |
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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 at 11:53 PM Stripping is a way of feeling in control of poles. —ZT-In-Heat |
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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 at 11:56 PM I completely disagree.
Parent who set boundaries, and are authority figures, instead of friends, are sure to raise healthier children.
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TortillaFactory |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 12:11 AM Parent who set boundaries, and are authority figures, instead of friends, are sure to raise healthier children. I don't think anyone's suggesting that parents who maintain a healthy balance between support and discipline towards their children are going to cause problems; here we're talking about parents who are unnecessarily and illogically strict. This can be very upsetting to a child, leading him to seek comfort in eating. [That means you, Mom.] —TortillaFactory |
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Spanglemaker |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 12:32 AM OK, TF, I'll give you that one.
Whe I was a teen, and saw my teamates stop having their periods, because of diet and exercise.
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ZT-In-Heat |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 1:19 AM WOW! I BET THEY WERE HOTT, AND YOU COULD HAVE SEX WITH THEM ALL THROUGH THE MONTH WITHOUT MAKING A MESS! —ZT-In-Heat |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 9:35 AM I always thought strict parenting was often linked with anorexia and bullemia? Maybe it would make more sense to say that strict parenting has been correlated with eating disorders in general. —Dark Laith |
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lisa999 |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 9:47 AM Overweight parents cause overweight kids. How many times have you seen a fat kid with his fat mom or dad? Same goes for the pets. Fat dog, fat dog owner. —lisa999 |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 9:47 AM
Edited Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 9:50 AM That sounds more accurate. edit: directed at Laith's post —catloaf |
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lisa999 |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 9:48 AM Hey, "Fat Dog". That would be a good name for a band. —lisa999 |
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TortillaFactory |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 11:23 AM Maybe it would make more sense to say that strict parenting has been correlated with eating disorders in general. Hitting the nail on the head as usual. Because of the American zeitgeist, anorexia/bulimia is a very prevalent manifestaion of "food issues." It is essentially nonexistent in many other cultures, where I imagine overeating is probably the more common manifestaion. (Though I hear anorexia is spreading to Asian countries, as well.) I remember vaguely a Loveline call where a girl was overweight because her father used to molest her, then feed her cookies and tell her that he loved her. Food oftentimes = comfort but for her it was even more profound. Also, being overweight is a way of alienating others. You're literally keeping people farther away from you, but also - once you reach dateable age - effectively handicapping yourself in terms of relationships. —TortillaFactory |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 11:33 AM I remember vaguely a Loveline call where a girl was overweight because her father used to molest her, then feed her cookies and tell her that he loved her. I remember that. :/ strict parents = very demanding and controlling = control issues = bulimia/anorexia Obvious lines of thought are sweet. Yes. —smaller hands |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 1:35 PM That means you, Mom. —TortillaFactory i caught that. you have something you want to share with the group?
let's take a time out for liz, everybody. —plurry |
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ProfessorCarbuncle |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 1:55 PM Overweight parents cause overweight kids... —lisa999 Truth. An I think it's more learned [over]eating habits than genetics. no, my parents are strict and I've always been bonylicious. —adams_babymomma the wheels will come off that wagon someday —ProfessorCarbuncle |
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TortillaFactory |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 2:02 PM let's take a time out for liz, everybody. *breaks a chair* Shit, I forgot that doesn't work for girls. —TortillaFactory |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 5:23 PM Binge eating disorder/bulimia/anorexia are all the same drive, just different sides of the same dice. Binge eating is rarely called an "eating disorder" in the mainstream media because of the stigma, it doesn't get the same sympathy as anorexia. But most eating disorder rehabs treat all three, with the root of all three being the same and the treatments being basically the same with some slight differences. Perhaps binge eating is more prevalent in younger kids than older kids because as kids get to preteen, they understand weight loss and hear how eating disorders work and "try" it like someone trying cocaine. Where a kid who is six who is freaked out and trying to medicate himself probably doesn't understand about purging and laxatives and stuff, he just wants to stop his feelings and goes to food. Most little kids like 4 or 5 who have bulimia or anorexia have parents who have it. You've got to have a reference point for most of it. You know how Drew says sex is not on your radar when you're 6? You have to see porn or be molested or something. Probably the same thing with anorexia/bulimia before 11 or so, you can't come up with it yet so binge eating, just eating dinner or dessert over and over again because you found it numbs you is the way it starts. —goldberry99 |
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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 7:36 PM Parent who set boundaries, and are authority figures, instead of friends, are sure to raise healthier children. I suspect you're right (...and wonder what exactly constitutes 'authoritarian' in the study but don't have time to read it at the moment). —anobody |
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Dusty TheHick |
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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 1:21 AM but also - once you reach dateable age - effectively handicapping yourself in terms of relationships. —TortillaFactory Ugh...TELL me about it! —Dusty TheHick |
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