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adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:07 PM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:07 PM

Has anybody heard of this artist? He is a jazz performer, and pianist.

adams_babymomma

  

catloaf

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:33 PM

Yes, a legend...why do you ask?

catloaf

  

adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:40 PM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:41 PM

well lets have a discussion about him, how great of an artist was he? Who were the other artist of his era. And do you really think that he revolutionized (sp?) the bebop genre?

adams_babymomma

  

Mahalo

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:49 PM

Just mention to the Starbucks crowd that you prefer the Monk to Hancock because he's such a sellout. It should get you some hipster points.

I don't know much about the extent of his talent because I'm not a musician, but apparently he was a jazz great.

Mahalo

  

goodtimes10

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:52 PM

Check out John Coltrane and Miles Davis if you're into jazz from that era.

goodtimes10

  

catloaf

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:53 PM

I don't know a lot of his history, but some artists of his generation that come to mind are Art Blakey and John Coltrane. I bet bguirk could fill you in on everything...oh, and Max Roach springs to mind also.

catloaf

  

adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:58 PM

What makes an artist legendary? Is it because of how much albums they sell, or is it
just based on their talent?
I believe he made over 50 ablums, which is a lot of money.

adams_babymomma

  

Phil Theblank

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 4:02 PM

do your own homework

Phil Theblank

  

adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 4:27 PM

it's not homework, i just want to discuss him.

adams_babymomma

  

mandeemoo22

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:16 PM

Why do you need to discuss him? I always listen to him when I'm studying.

mandeemoo22

  

adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:27 PM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:30 PM

I dont know...but this pisses me off. Seamen and some 16 yr. old.


isin't he cute??

ok back to to Monk. What's your fav song by him???

adams_babymomma

  

A Guy in a Chair

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:35 PM

What makes an artist legendary? Is it because of how much albums they sell, or is it
just based on their talent?

-ABS

It's usually more of if they created a new style or method of playing for the legends (ie: Louis Armstrong, Maynard Ferguson etc.), and for those who are presently famous, it's talent.
Although, most of the best present day musicians in the world aren't known by many, although there are also many people who don't know what the Holocaust was, so I guess that doesn't say much.

Trust me on this one, I'm in the band.

A Guy in a Chair

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:50 PM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:53 PM

Well, since this isn't for a class...

He was a buddhist monk who was born in the state of Qin the third century, BC.

Early in life, he was a criminal who was reformed after several years of imprisonment by the King of Qin.

After the unification of China, he later became a member of the Emperor's court and a trusted advisor of Emperor Qin Shi Huang until his resignation.

In addition to being a gifted court musician, he was an excellent military strategist and he had keen intuition in the art of diplomacy.

An interesting aside - the English word 'felonious' was derived from a corruption of his name.

how great of an artist was he?
Very great - one of the most famous from ancient China.

Who were the other artist of his era.
Gao Jianli is probably his most well known contemporary. Jing Ke was also highly influential at the time.

And do you really think that he revolutionized (sp?) the bebop genre?
Absolutely. He invented the bebop genre, and the modern piano. Without him, there literally wouldn't have been a bebop genre.

anobody

  

A Guy in a Chair

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:15 PM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:21 PM

^ (I don't know whether to hit you or kiss you.)
For the kiddies out there that somehow know how to use the Internet, but actually believed that... actually, Ano is right. Thelonius Monk was a famous bebop composer from China. He heavily influenced the Chinese culture. If you're into his style, check out other's that followed him: Tao Ming, Chi Ho, and of course, the famous Zao Tseung, all wonderful muscians and composers.

"Very great - one of the most famous from ancient China."

Just under William Hung.

A Guy in a Chair

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:17 PM

Dude! shhhhhhhhhhhhh

anobody

  

adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:20 PM

I knew he wasn't, i read his bio BEFORE i posted this thread. How rude.

adams_babymomma

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:22 PM

I didn't think you'd actually buy that, ABM (I'd feel horrible while laughing my ass off if you did) - I was just amusing myself and picking the low lying fruit.

anobody

  

adams_babymomma

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:25 PM

Yuri Mrakadi - "Bahebbak Moot"

adams_babymomma

  

Had To Get It On

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:37 PM

16 year old, eh?
I got banned from another forum today for posting a picture of a 16 year old in her underwear. =/

Had To Get It On

  

Phil Theblank

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:39 PM

does that qualify as porn?

Phil Theblank

  

Had To Get It On

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:50 PM

No.

Had To Get It On

  

catloaf

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:57 PM

An interesting aside - the English word 'felonious' was derived from a corruption of his name.

Ah, that would explain Steely Dan's Midnight Cruiser. Heh.

catloaf

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:58 PM

Yuri Mrakadi - Bahebbak Moot

anobody

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:58 PM

Wait a second

I got banned from another forum today for posting a picture of a 16 year old in her underwear. =/

what the fuck?

anobody

  

Had To Get It On

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 7:00 PM

Don't worry, it was only 4chan. I'll be back.

Had To Get It On

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 7:08 PM

I consulted the great oracle of wiki to figure out what you were saying but she was of no help.

anobody

  

Lefty

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 7:11 PM

i just took a picture of a 16 year old in her underwear. and GIO stole it from me.

Lefty

  

Had To Get It On

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 7:14 PM

I hope you learned your lesson.

Had To Get It On

  

anobody

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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 7:17 PM

A pox on you both. May you grow boobs and a large number of novelty sized, non-functioning dongs.

anobody

  

A Guy in a Chair

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 2:54 PM

^
That picture is sooo fake... I mean those things are huge, and none of them are black. Impossible.

Although,I've always wondered what a combination of Angelina Jolie, Jamie from Mythbusters, a giant dick, and an octopus would look like.

A Guy in a Chair

  

ZT-In-Heat

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 3:44 PM

HOW DARE YOU JUDGE!!!

IT'S COOL THAT YOU WATCH MYTHBUSTERS

BUT FUCK YOU FOR JUDGING ANYWAYS

ZT-In-Heat

  

bguirk

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 4:05 PM

well lets have a discussion about him, how great of an artist was he? Who were the other artist of his era. And do you really think that he revolutionized (sp?) the bebop genre?

Monk played behind beboppers (Diz, Bird, others), but he wasn't an innovator in that way although the way he backed up soloists was very different (but not really imitated these days). As far as some virtuoso technical ability on the piano that is not how he distinguished himself. The way he voiced his chords and composed his songs is still a huge influence on any pianist/jazz soloist you hear today. As far as the jazz "standards" go, they are some of the most fun to play IMHO. His song Well You Needn't makes so much melodic sense to me I'd put it up there with Mozart. It doesn't just make sense to your ear--it makes sense to your fingers when you play it. In the hard bop era his group served as an incubator for some serious talent--John Coltrane being one of the most famous, but there are others...Jackie McClean and some drummer I just heard on Fresh Air. To bring this full circle to today, the RHCP often do the song F.U. complete with lyrics in concert.

As for his contemporaries-- he lived/played in the bop era through 1981 or so (even though he was super nutty at the end) so any big name in jazz is one of his contemporaries. The film Straight No Chaser is a trip even if you don't like jazz.

bguirk

  

ZT-In-Heat

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 4:18 PM

HELLO,

ACCORDING TO ALLMUSIC.COM YOU ARE ALL FUCKING LIARS.

THELONIOUS MONK WAS NOT IN THE BEBOP GENRE, BUT WAS INSTEAD IN THE JAZZ GENRE. THOUGH HIS STYLES INCLUDE: BOP, POST-BOP, HARD-BOP, AND MODAL MUSIC.

I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER MY DISEASE, PLEASE KILL ME.

ZT-In-Heat

  

A Guy in a Chair

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 6:36 PM

I like caps lock too.

A Guy in a Chair

  

catloaf

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:15 PM

See ABM, I told ya bguirk could skool ya on Monk.

catloaf

  

ItHadToBeJew

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:17 PM

ABM's threads dominate the top of TLC. It's clear: Lena is the Iraqi TLC Poster all of America can agree upon.

ItHadToBeJew

  

Dark Laith

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:40 PM

Bullshit. She gets all the attention, but people continually profess their dislike of her. She's like the Iraqi Paris Hilton.

Dark Laith

  

ZT-In-Heat

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:47 PM

iawtc

ZT-In-Heat

  

greymatters

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:48 PM

She's like the Iraqi Paris Hilton.

You should probably erase this because you're going to make her fall in love with you.

greymatters

  

ItHadToBeJew

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:58 PM

I'm already scared of Laith and ABMs children.

ItHadToBeJew

  

greymatters

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 8:03 PM

AjhaskdjhasdkjhaksdjhasaaJIHAD!!!!

greymatters

  

Had To Get It On

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 9:08 PM

His Snoopy ensemble is straight bad ass.

Had To Get It On

  

bguirk

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 8:20 AM

See ABM, I told ya bguirk could skool ya on Monk.

—catloaf

Aww shucks. I'm just a fan.

My next house will have a piano in it so I can learn what his chords look like.

bguirk

  

ProfessorCarbuncle

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 10:08 AM

What makes an artist legendary? Is it because of how much albums they sell, or is it
just based on their talent?
I believe he made over 50 ablums, which is a lot of money.

he's a legend because he is and was so talked about, his music was popular with the masses and musicians. There are a lot of musicians from previous decades who made more money than Coltrane but then slipped into obscurity. Think about the 80s.

ProfessorCarbuncle

  

adams_babymomma

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 10:23 AM

I'm already scared of Laith and ABMs children.

—ItHadToBeJew

I told you a million times, i dont date Middle Eastern men, i will not make the same mistake my mother did. I currently have my eyes set on rich, white men. End of discussion.

I'm only popular online. Well not really, it's my stupidity that makes me shine through.

adams_babymomma

  

bguirk

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 11:07 AM

he's a legend because he is and was so talked about, his music was popular with the masses and musicians. There are a lot of musicians from previous decades who made more money than Coltrane but then slipped into obscurity. Think about the 80s.

A great book for learning about has jazz records were made goes by the title of something like "Kind of Blue: the Making of a Miles Davis Masterpiece." It's by Ashley Kahn. I think the sidemen (Coltrane, Cannonball, Evans, Kelly, Cobb, Chambers) made something like $250 each for a record that still sells 100's of thousands and Miles had to fight to get them that much. Monk did not get rich on his records and most jazz musicians of that era didn't. Festivals are probably the biggest cash cows, followed by club dates, followed by records unless your name was Louis Armstrong or Miles Davis and you had a fat deal with Columbia or whoever.

bguirk

  

adams_babymomma

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 11:08 AM

Thanks!

I like Panic at the disco!

adams_babymomma

  

ProfessorCarbuncle

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 4:35 PM

Johnny Cash's biography Cash by Johnny Cash came highly recommended to me.

ABM- I like Panic at the Disco too. People give them a lot of shit they don't deserve. They're a stellar live act.

ProfessorCarbuncle

  

DogBite

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 5:00 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 5:12 PM

^^
Yeah, they are so stellar that they stand straight up on stage and play their whole album from start to finish without so much a single improvised note!

What a bunch of fuckin' crap. Now I know how my parents felt when I told them Def Leppard were Rock Gods in junior high.

In keeping with the thread, I'm gonna check out Kind of Blue, the album.

DogBite

  

adams_babymomma

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 5:20 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 5:20 PM

well now that i read the lyrics, they are kind of odd. It crazy how they have crappy lyrics, but thanks to the melody, and rhythm it sounds cool.

PANIC! AT THE DISCO LYRICS

"I Write Sins Not Tragedies"

Oh, well imagine, as I'm pacing the pews in a church corridor,
and I can't help but to hear, no I can't help but to hear an exchanging of words:
"What a beautiful wedding! What a beautiful wedding!" says a bridesmaid to a waiter.
"And yes, but what a shame, what a shame, the poor groom's bride is a whore."

I'd chime in with a "Haven't you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.
I'd chime in, "Haven't you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of...

Well in fact, well I'll look at it this way, I mean technically our marriage is saved
Well this calls for a toast, so pour the champagne
Oh! Well in fact, well I'll look at it this way, I mean technically our marriage is saved
Well this calls for a toast, so pour the champagne, pour the champagne

I'd chime in with a "Haven't you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.
I'd chime in, "Haven't you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.

Again...

I'd chime in, "Haven't you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.
I'd chime in, "Haven't you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.

adams_babymomma

  

ItHadToBeJew

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 4:05 AM

Every time I look at this thread, I think of Tony Shalhoub. Damn you USA and your constant advertisements!

ItHadToBeJew

  

ProfessorCarbuncle

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 5:23 AM
Edited Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 5:24 AM

What a bunch of fuckin' crap. Now I know how my parents felt when I told them Def Leppard were Rock Gods in junior high.

Indeed, you should be ashamed.

But I thought Green Day kicked ass when I was in middle school (jr high), and I still feel the same way now that I'm 24. Panic! and Green Day are both good live acts, lots of energy onstage, and their live act lives up to their recorded sound, which is often not the case.

ProfessorCarbuncle

  

DogBite

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 7:16 AM

Listen, I saw Panic! at the Disco at a premier venue, and it was total WHACK! I don't know where you get off comparing them to Green Day who have been playing to packed audiences for over 15 years. Again, y'all full of shit...and to drive the point home here are some DogBite homebrew lyrics:

The Blaze and the Fire

Rose to the occasion, then she turned her back on him
Turn the blaze down on your fire, close the door,
At the altar you conspire

After the bottles uncorked and the guests retreat,
She whispered in his ear so sweet,
"Eternity only lasts as long as life."
Now the groom must face reality and come up with the full price

Don't be so impressed with ties and locks that cover the eyes
It takes more than synthesized beats and emo lyrics
To describe a love that lies, a bride that cries

DogBite

  

ProfessorCarbuncle

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 7:32 AM

^^ whatever dude, that's like, your opinion, man. dude, you just think that you're like, too cool for school or something, man. whatever dude bro.

-> If you hate everything will will have a shitball miserable life. So have fun with all that, DogBite. I'm certain that your hate of Panic! is driven by your dislike of the young people who are into them. Mr Bite, if you have some of your music online, please provide a link (provided you have the guts).

ProfessorCarbuncle

  

chix0r

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 8:07 AM

>>HOW DARE YOU JUDGE!!!

I was filling out a class assessment form this morning, and one of the checkable options was literally "cannot judge." I started laughing and said "that is so awesome, it actually says 'cannot judge'" but no one had any idea what I was talking about.

chix0r

  

adams_babymomma

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 11:50 AM

^I had the same thing happen to me when I did my speech on Adam, and I was telling them about the testicle dream he had. Everybody was like “did she just say testicles”?

adams_babymomma

  

religious_retards

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 11:57 PM

Why does Drew hate Thelonious? Is he more of a Yardbird man? Drew told me personally that Mingus was the shit, but the Monk, he's meh.

religious_retards

  

anobody

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 12:01 AM

He probably just doesn't care for Emperor Chin (it's like some people who don't like Wagner because of that whole Hitler thing).

anobody

  

hash

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 12:15 AM

hash

  

anobody

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 12:22 AM

What have you done to Suri, Hash?

If TBJ wasn't killed by Plurry, you know that you'd probably be dead to him, don't you.

anobody

  

bguirk

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Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 4:58 PM

Yardbird

It's just Bird. Not Yardbird, Charlie "Bird"...just Bird.

bguirk

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