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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 8:13 AM Fo' reals. This isn't even a sudden thing either, it's been on my mind for a while now. And for the past week and a half I can't even look at porn for more than a few seconds without being disgusted. I think it's generally bad for the women and probably not so good for the viewer. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 10:01 AM Eh, you're not the only one. I'm not disgusted per se, it's just old. Coming from a guy who doesn't get laid too. —goodtimes10 |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 10:11 AM It could be burnout too. But I just started to think, why are these girls doing this? Oh right, because they're probably messed up.
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 10:12 AM You guys are gay. Do you talk to your mom on the phone everyday too?
blowmechristlovers, that was a solid 5th post.
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 10:14 AM You mean the chicks aren't into it and are doing it for money? Now I don't know what to think. —goodtimes10 |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 10:26 AM That's the problem. They aren't forced into it. They are into it and they are doing it for the money. In my book, that's not right. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 11:50 AM better check your nads for tumors, original poster. Methinks a drop in testosterone may be the culprit. If you need to unload your porn collection I can give you my PO box. "when masturbation's lost it's fun, you're fucking breaking"
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 11:55 AM Could also be a prolactin secreting tumor so be sure to check your pituitary as well. —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 12:30 PM I smell one of those guys (pussies) who doesn't get girls, but who thinks that if he "cares" about the "plight of women", chicks will think he's sensitive and he'll get tail...sorry buddy, it doesn't work that way... Furthermore, if you want to worry about people who are forced to use and sell their bodies by societal and economic pressures, worry about coal miners... I love those people who are very, very, very concerned about the plight of girls who make $400 an hour, and how economically oppressed they are...what about the guy who gets $7 an hour to wipe up the jizz after the girls go home, I never hear anyone worried about him... The best story was a guy who used to be "addicted" to strip clubs, but now has seen the error of his ways and how wrong it is to use women like that...so now, he goes to strip clubs and pays for lap dances but talks to them about Jesus while they grind his cock...it's like the people who hate Howard Stern so much, they record, listen to, and actually transcribe his show everyday, it's interesting how you can make yourself feel good about doing the exact same thing you want everyone else to feel bad about... the beauty of religion, I guess... —blackcow |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:00 PM I smell one of those guys (pussies) who doesn't get girls, but who thinks that if he "cares" about the "plight of women", chicks will think he's sensitive and he'll get tail...sorry buddy, it doesn't work that way... Typical TLC ad hominem fallacy. What I expect to get out of my position doesn't change the fact the inustry is exploitig some or most of these women. Furthermore, if you want to worry about people who are forced to use and sell their bodies by societal and economic pressures, worry about coal miners... Terrible analogy. Even if it were true, what recourse do I have? Live off the grid? I love those people who are very, very, very concerned about the plight of girls who make $400 an hour, and how economically oppressed they are...what about the guy who gets $7 an hour to wipe up the jizz after the girls go home, I never hear anyone worried about him... I'm not saying people don't have worse jobs than acting in porn films, they do. Hell, I do. The best story was a guy who used to be "addicted" to strip clubs, but now has seen the error of his ways and how wrong it is to use women like that...so now, he goes to strip clubs and pays for lap dances but talks to them about Jesus while they grind his cock...it's like the people who hate Howard Stern so much, they record, listen to, and actually transcribe his show everyday, it's interesting how you can make yourself feel good about doing the exact same thing you want everyone else to feel bad about... I don't know what to say here except that I've never been to a strip club. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:01 PM ""when masturbation's lost it's fun, you're fucking breaking"
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:33 PM I'm thinking about quitting too. None of my family or friends knows I watch it either. The guest speaker in church today talked about sexual additions and how to end them. —OneNutAaron |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:46 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:46 PM I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT. Listen, watching porn is probaby the least destructive of your pussy habits. You buy clothes? You eat food? Guess what, someone probably suffered to make them. So PLEASE either shut up or move to some nut job self-sustaining commune. —lastmanstanding |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:49 PM Aaron and GIO - might I suggest high doses of progestin. —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:49 PM lastmanstanding, that's the beauty of what I'm saying. OK, assume they are all exploitative, fair enough. Well, you can't really walk around naked all day, as much as the ladies would love you for it. And you have to eat. But, you don't have watch porn. So, it's gone. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 2:52 PM ""when masturbation's lost it's fun, you're fucking breaking"
-billy joe" i thought it was when masturbation's lost its fun your fucking done or fucking dumb ? yeah, maybe it is. I always thought he said 'breaking'. Never bothered to look it up. I like my way better. —ProfessorCarbuncle |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 3:23 PM Yes and since your mind is a nonphysical ether that possesses your body and otherwise has no interaction with your physiology, it's all a matter of willpower. Just like quitting heroin.... or oxygen. —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 3:37 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 3:39 PM porn is all about our surroundings, there are cultures, where sex is considered dirty, dreaded, and is only meant for child birth, it's not as if porn is impossible to quit, just take yourself out of that environment; however, that environment is the culture we live in, so it's much harder for us, but it's not impossible, it's all about the environment, masturbation is not something we are born with, it's something we are taught. —Lefty |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 3:39 PM Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa.
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I'm not done with masturbation. Although without porn I guess that will be a lot less frequent.
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 3:41 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 3:41 PM well come on.
porn = masturabation it's not as if we watch porn for acting lessons —Lefty |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 4:03 PM Had To Get It On
+ Today at 3:00 PM I smell one of those guys (pussies) who doesn't get girls, but who thinks that if he "cares" about the "plight of women", chicks will think he's sensitive and he'll get tail...sorry buddy, it doesn't work that way... Typical TLC ad hominem fallacy. What I expect to get out of my position doesn't change the fact the inustry is exploitig some or most of these women. Kid...listen close...EVERY INDUSTRY exploits all of their workers, it's called the real world (aka capitalism)...if you want to save the world, take everything you own that was made in China, burn it...take all of the food you have that was picked by a day laborer, burn it...a lot of the parts in your computer were probably made by prison labor in a third world country, burn it... but you are right, coal miners have it easy... and you cry for porn stars...Jenna Jameson and Wendy Whoppers need your concern.
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 4:11 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 4:14 PM masturbation is not something we are born with, it's something we are taught
I disagree with you there, Lefty. It's a biological drive and if you removed all societal influence, we'd stille arrive at the destination. Society does influence the details of when, how and how frequently we arrive there, though. it's not as if we watch porn for acting lessons No, I watch it to learn about the art of cinematography. I'm not done with masturbation
Ah - my point is retracted. I don't need porn to masturbate
Yeah. You also don't need electric light to read by at night or a car to get you across town (doesn't stop me from using either). By porn, I was assuming you meant all porn not just the flicks. I've said it before but I never cared much for porn flicks (though I wouldn't want to do without my daily dose of foobies). and you cry for porn stars...Jenna Jameson and Wendy Whoppers need your concern.
I think that what he's saying is more that he's bothered because the odds are that they were abused / molested as children. Listening to Loveline and otherwise gaining a bit of insight into why people do what they do has added a twinge of guilt to porn for me. Knowing what drove them down that path makes it harder to look at thin naked women with impossibly large breasts (though somehow, I manage to put that out of my mind and pull through; if I couldn't do that and was always cognizant of their histories, I'd probably end up having to resort to cartoons, sketches and Victoria's Secret catalogues). —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 4:31 PM I mean all porn. Videos and pictures. Erotica. Hentai. Everything. blackcow, I'm not try to be a hero and change the world. Yeah, I realize that other bad stuff goes on. Right now, I'm tackling this issue for myself and supporting whoever wants to go along with me. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 4:46 PM I mean all porn. Videos and pictures. Erotica. Hentai. Everything. Even sketching a naked chick with big boobies on some college ruled paper? —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 5:01 PM As we all know, I wrote a paper about how porn is good for you, women specifically. I'd post it, but there's no reason to. It's long and no one wants to read all that jazz. —mandeemoo22 |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 5:18 PM Yes, porn teaches the young girls how to treat men correctly in bed.
Give us oral, anal, intercourse, then let me finish on your face, then you leave. —Lefty |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 5:24 PM I felt disgusted with the chicks too, but only after im finished :( —JesusHimself |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 5:36 PM Jesus, imagine you had that same feeling, but no matter when you looked at it. mandeemoo22, some women can get rich off porn but lets face it, most actresses we never hear of and what happens to these women? I bet they feel really proud of themselves. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 5:50 PM Lefty said he saw a documentary where the some chick said it was harder for the male performers. Simply, propaganda. The hardest part would be if your co-star is unattractive. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:03 PM It's a job. It doesn't matter if they are famous or not. They are employed and are able to pay their bills. —mandeemoo22 |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:11 PM I was just trying to prevent people from coming in with that "but they make a lot of money" remark.
They don't make a lot of money, generally speaking. It's just job? Of course. Is it like other jobs? No, not really. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:31 PM yeah, maybe it is. I always thought he said 'breaking'. Never bothered to look it up. I like my way better. it is breaking. I don't even need to check. and why are you guys making fun of Had To and OneNut? Quitting porn is a very honorable and challenging thing to do, and in the end, I'd much rather spend time just talking to my girlfriend than sitting at home on the comp watching porn. It's not even so much that it's against my religion and all, it's more that I just feel pathetic when I look at it.
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:33 PM It's not challenging, I could do it anytime I want to. I just don't want to. I can stop whenever I want. ... Get away from me! —ItHadToBeJew |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:40 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:43 PM I just realized. I haven't looked at it since probably Monday, I think. so that's six days, without even consciously trying not to. —Stryker311 |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 6:50 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:33 PM Well I'm not done with it by any means, but I totally agree with what HTGIO and Aaron are saying. Yes, these are terribly abused girls and it's hard to separate that sometimes (though I usually manage to.) In fact there was one "amateur" one I saw recently where the girl started crying during it. I had to take a hiatus after that one. Some of the porn is getting a little too abusive as well. I'm really not into the degradation factor, I don't stick around for the "finishing" scenes. You gotta wonder about the guys who really get off on that. No doubt they’re the ones into anal as well. As for strip clubs, I've never been a fan. It's pretty pathetic for the most part. Plus when you're face to face with some coked-up, dead-eyed girl it's hard to get based the abuse part of it. I've only been a handful of times, but even before listening to Loveline, it was uncomfortable - I just didn't really know why. Maybe if I was one of those guys who could actually get off during a lap dance, I'd have a different take. But the thought of shelling out fifty bucks (or more) for a night staring at boobies and some fun with friction only to come home and beat off anyway, well I've got Cinemax for that and that's a hell of a lot cheaper, —Beat It! |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:14 PM
Edited Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:17 PM It's just job? Of course. Is it like other jobs? No, not really.
No comment - just thought that was worth repeating I was just trying to prevent people from coming in with that "but they make a lot of money" remark.
They don't make a lot of money, generally speaking. I thought the chicks made pretty decent money, like stripers. I'd suspect that the dudes almost have to pay, though (in other words, men and women are exactly the same). Striper or porn star, it doesn't really matter how much they make, they have a short shelf-life and most will blow all their money quickly (drugs, partying, cars, whatever). Then, if they survive, their looks eventually fade and they'll be stuck doing a shit job that doesn't pay 1/100th as much and requires then to work 100x harder. Then there's everything that brings them to those professions. There is a problem there but it's a societal and social problem. Sure, the consumers of porn paying enormous sums of money isn't helping the situation but the root, and I would argue the essence, of the problem is everything that leads women to those jobs, not the jobs themselves. As for strip clubs, I've never been a fan. It's pretty pathetic for the most part
Totally agree. I've never been but know someone who actually brags about going all the time. I don't think I could manage the suspension of disbelief required to think that the girls were actually interested in me (this is the principal reason why I want a holodeck). Some of the porn is getting a little too abusive as well. I'm really not into the degradation factor, I don't stick around for the "finishing" scenes. You gotta winder about the guys who really get off on that. No doubt they’re the ones into anal as well. Yeah - I really don't get that stuff either ('water works', S&M, 'the money shot'). Another thing is the girls looking upset / like they're being forced into whatever they're doing (that's a major turn off for me but I see it a lot so I'm sure there are lots of guys out there who like it). I guess my tastes are quaint but I'm happy just looking at boobies. —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:26 PM Well, I personally am not really into porn. I just wrote the paper because it was an interesting topic. But of course the girls don't look happy in films. They get these skinny little anorexic girls and they put guys with the biggest dicks they can find inside of them. That's gotta be painful. —mandeemoo22 |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:43 PM grey > porn But of course the girls don't look happy in films.
There are lots of porn flicks (and pics) where the girls look happy (whether they actually are or not is a different matter). —anobody |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:45 PM Since I know now what the little girl voice is, I have to mute my Katie Morgan porn, because otherwise, it takes me 10-15 seconds longer. —ItHadToBeJew |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:49 PM Katie Morgan isn't hot, and her boob job is disgusting. I can't believe Stryker has better taste in porn than you. Now you disgust me. —greymatters |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 7:59 PM Well I've never seen a girl too skinny in a porno. But I hate fake breasts and that seems to be a big trend. —Had To Get It On |
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Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 8:17 PM Since I know now what the little girl voice is, I have to mute my Katie Morgan porn I saw her on this - little girl voice plus weird bouncy anxious energy and lovely fake smile (gives me the creeps just thinking about her; I'd have to tack on 30-40 seconds, TBJ). —anobody |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:11 AM Adam would cry in outrage if he saw people losing faith in his beloved porn.
Porn pwns you. —rAnCIDsICk@!!! |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:57 AM Don't most the guys in porn originally get involved in porn to bang hot chicks but
end up pounding some dudes black moose because there's more money in gay porn? Economic Oppression is shitty. —rAnCIDsICk@!!! |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 4:05 AM Why aren't you concerned with the guys who were, no doubt, abused just as much as the women Yes, because as well know men and women are exactly the same. There are no differences in motivations and trauma response. Attitudes and sexual drives, you ask? Exactly the same. —Beat It! |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:04 AM Beat It! said it pretty well. blackcow I think you're denial about what's going on with the industry, who gets used, and who makes the bulk of the money. It's got nothing to do with day laborers, migrant workers, fast food workers or any other poor person. Stop allowing yourself to be distracted and just focus on what you can change about yourself and porn. That's all I'm doing. One thing at a time, man. —Had To Get It On |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:32 AM I have no denial that girls who were abused and now addicted to drugs and sex are used to make a lot of money for the producers. DUUUHHHHHHHHH. And yes, porn is not directly connected to the plight of other equally oppressed workers, I just find it very amusing where you pick your battles. It's like raising money for Paris Hilton instead of the homeless and then saying, "well, yes, people are living in the streets, but Paris Hilton DOES need a new yacht." Porn, that'll change the world. If you want to go without something that is bad for the world...give up oil. Wash the blood off of your hands, not the jizz. Walk. Ride a bike. What can I change about myself and porn...hmm...well, I could pledge to watch twice as much to make up for your lost output...those girls need to eat...and i don't just mean cum and pussy One completely unimportant thing at a time, man. One man CAN change the world...if he is an inventor or an assassin, otherwise it's all just patting yourself on the back. —blackcow |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 7:21 AM You are the one who keeps saying save the world. I'm saying I'm changing myself. With my changing I'm having a tiny effect on the rest of you but that's not why I'm doing it.
One person cannot really change world. An assassin's victim can simply be replaced. For example, you kill a world leader then someone steps up to take his place. Same shit, different day. Inventors typically don't work alone. And if something important is invented you still need smart people to get the industry up and running that the product made, etc. Change in this world is made slowly. It's a very long series of very small steps.
You're on my case for all the wrong reasons. I'm not ignoring other parts of my life or other parts of the world, like the economy or whatever. Now that I don't watch porn I'll have more time to do those things.
I'm not saying I'm better than anyone. Watch all the porn you want, have a blast. I hope you enjoy yourself. —Had To Get It On |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 9:09 AM where the girls look happy (whether they actually are or not is a different matter). That is all I really need... As for the rest of the arguments--if you are downloading porn off torrents or newsgroups you actually aren't supporting the industry so what's the BFD? This is one of those times when file sharing is a win/win. You get your porn and don't support the people who are "exploiting" these women. There's enough porn out there now where they could stop producing stuff now and you'd have a lifetime of porn watching before you got to the end of the porn rainbow. How about a porn library for all in exchange for a law outlawing future production? I'm all for it. —bguirk |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 9:44 AM Topsites you say? I think I'm beginning to understand the source of your problem. —anobody |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 10:28 AM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 10:29 AM From an American Genious (sic) at the urban dictionary: "2. Often misused to satisfy a lamen's ego, the self-proclaimed 1337 will misuse the title, pretending to hold Xtr3m H4x0r capabilties while in fact masturbating to preteen beastiality at 2:00 AM with baggy eyes; anonymously hassling n00b's with better things to do than kill their babies over mindrot such as Everquest and Warcraft. See also "colon debris" and "queefstain" I think the shoe fits TPATPAM. I remember back when I was so 1337 with 1200 baud in my parents' attic. Topsites might be the next big thing in porn, but in this forum you will get 80 people arguing with you about how great usenet is. —bguirk |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 1:31 PM So, you want to stop supporting the porn industry? Sure, you could just stop purchasing porn... But why not take it a step further? I suggest that you watch more porn. Just make sure it's free (there are tons of sites out there dedicated to providing lots of links to free material). Then, not only does the porn industry lose out on your money, but you use up some of their bandwith. Who says you can't have your kleenex and jizz on it too? —no! cannot have! |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 2:02 PM Well I never paid for it. But I have shared it with others and I have talked about it like it's something ok for me to watch. Now all that's changing. —Had To Get It On |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 3:33 PM The obvious solution is to exclusively watch homemade porn. If you still have ethical qualms about the possibility of one partner having released a tape without the other's consent, then I have no advice for you. —Mahalo |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 5:12 PM If you still have ethical qualms about the possibility of one partner having released a tape without the other's consent, then I have no advice for you. I think the solution is obvious - he should only watch porn that he, himself has made. To ensure that there isn't any subtile coercion at work, he should not include any partners. —anobody |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:34 PM No no no. The obvious solution is for him to make a ton of homemade porn, submit it for OUR approval, then we can, in turn.... no, ok, maybe you were right. —catloaf |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:47 PM Homemade porn might be something. Only if if the couple or the woman was doing it for free, just to show off and not really promoting anything. "pro bono" as it were.
But then there is still the component of me sitting here getting off on it. That makes me uneasy too. —Had To Get It On |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:51 PM See - the problem is that you can't tell if the chick is complacent because it's something she really wants to do or if she was tweaked. That's why I'm suggesting that you make home made porn by yourself and beat off to that. —anobody |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 6:56 PM True. What about if I'm talking to a chick online and she goes on cam? I think that's a green light. —Had To Get It On |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 8:30 PM Don't you have to do some work to download from topsite? You can't just leech off the resources and be done with it. —greymatters |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 9:02 PM You've got some fucked up pr0n in your capture, GIO. Back Draft
Everything is Illuminated
(Mason) Jar Head
The Ringer
Tristan und Isolde come on people, keep it clean (this is a family site). —anobody |
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Monday, May 8, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Edited Monday, May 8, 2006 at 10:34 PM How many of you guys gotten some stupid chick to get naked on cam ... —JesusHimself |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 1:24 AM Anyone who would have sex with someone so neurotic has to be a little tweaked in the head. So hey, have fun being celibate. —lastmanstanding |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 3:05 AM How am I neurotic? Healthy respect for women = neurotic. Duh! —catloaf |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 3:32 AM A healthy respect would entail looking at women honestly for what they are and not idealistically on a pedastal... The funny part is your logic in this thread actually shows a great disrespect for women...the women in porn are powerless over their predicament and played no part in putting themselves into it, but fuck the men in porn, they are just pigs...so women are helpless with no control or responsibility for their actions, hmm, rather condescending....but you'll "save" them, right? I know it seems like women will like and/or respect you for being "sensitive", etc and they will WANT to like you and WANT to respect you, but they'll still only fuck guys who don't pay enough attention to them or cheat on them...fair warning. —blackcow |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 4:02 AM "powerless", "pigs". Those are your words, not mine. I'm not saving anyone but myself. Am I helping anyone else by saying I don't want to watch porn anymore? Perhaps. —Had To Get It On |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 4:39 AM you have by implication actually, ex. men in porn's trauma is limited to unnattractive costars, etc my point is, whether you realize it or not, is that your point is a lot more self righteous than righteous...that's all people often talk about what if...what if they could have stopped Hitler before he got started, I often wonder, what if we could have stopped Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Brent Bozell and their ilk before they got started... PS-anyone of these girls (hooker, stripper, porn star) if offered $500 to either suck your cock or paint your house...will not be picking up a paint brush... —blackcow |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 4:58 AM I haven't really implied too much. I'm saying from a male's point of view, i.e. mine, there's nothing traumatic at all about doing some slut on camera. When you add things I haven't said, those are your views , not mine. That's fine. You can give your opinion all you want, just don't sign my name on it.
I think you're looking too deep into what I'm saying. I'm saying how can I continue to get enjoyment from something that's fundamentally flawed?
Nothing to do with other industries, or where any particular girl came from, or exactly how their motivational priorities got set in place. It's all irrelevant.
There was me and porn. Now there is me and no porn. It's that simple. It's not about who I'm saving or finding these girls other jobs. It's not about taking on our society. —Had To Get It On |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 6:06 AM Am I helping anyone else by saying I don't want to watch porn anymore? Perhaps. —Had To Get It On How Jesus like... Bro, if it's just between you and the porn, then keep it to yourself...it's all good. When you decide to announce it to the world, for example proclaiming it to a Loveline message board, it is an act of self-righteousness...that's all...I'm just saying, don't delude yourself into thinking it isn't... It's like the people who donate to charity, but only if their name goes on everything and everyone knows how charitable they...are they really charitable or do they want to be known as charitable and are willing to pay to feel good about themselves? —blackcow |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 6:28 AM I disagree 100%. I can't share my views on something without trying to feel superior? The only reason to communicate a belief is to morally 1-up other people? What about the people that posted in agreement? They are simply showing off as well? Stop looking for an agenda. My reasons for posting this aren't bigger than what the title says. —Had To Get It On |
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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 7:10 AM I'm with you, if I could cut lust/pr0n/masturbatr0n out of my daily sched | |
