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Wednesday, February 1, 2006 at 11:21 PM This is Adam's metric to determining the good or bad of something. 1. Christians want kids (or anybody) to learn and practice Christian values and morals. What's in it for them?
- so maybe we can walk to our car at night and not get robbed or murdered. 2. Most people want the military on our borders. What's in it for them?
- so terrorist, drugs and illegals will have a hard time getting in. 3. Most people don't want drugs legalized? What's in it for them?
- so they won't get run over by drivers high on them. —Darwin'sBlade |
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Wednesday, February 1, 2006 at 11:59 PM 1. There is no uniform set of Christian values/morals. Each Christian has a different set of ideals and of course an unparallel set of actual ways in which they live. The myth of Christ himself had a set of values that are in duality: there is the quantum set espoused by people of the preach and then there is the set that people like Nick Cave believed Christ possessed. Of course the myth itself may have thought of things differently again.
There are a host of reasons why people may rob or murder someone who is walking to their car at night. By the way, you've never been murdered going to your car at night. None of those reasons can be counteracted by the teaching of Christian values/morals, whatever you suppose them to be at any one time. Will that dissolve the criminal's poverty? Or are they perhaps mentally ill, will Christianity cure that? Perhaps they're just evil. No, evil doesn't exist.
What possible reason for crime could have anything to do with morals? If you have enough food and shelter, you can keep your morals. If you don't, you break them in order to acquire enough. There are only perhaps a handful of people in the world strong enough to prove that rule. Who are the "we" getting robbed? Certainly not the spiritual brethren of the Christ Conciousness Myth because such people would not live in a community anything less than an egalitarian utopia. 2. Most people. Most. Most people. Okay, most of what? Certainly not most of the people on earth. Most don't think about such an issue one way or the other. Most Americans? No, for most Americans live in South and Central America. Most North Americans? I don't think the Canadians want a military force stationed on the Canada/USA border. Perhaps the Mexicans? Yes, I'm sure they want a military presence between the parts of Mexico still under their control, supposedly, and the parts that are currently occupied by Europeans, namely the southern parts of the USA. Of course Mexico by and large is an establishment of Spain but at least it predates the USA by several centuries. And those people slurred as Mexicans are the people that have lived there beyond history anyway. Who wants to keep the illegals out? Not only is it an arbitrary thing that they are illegal, but they are very much wanted. The USA economy requires an enormous peasant underclass in order to keep the middle class and wealthy people in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed. Watch the film A Day Without A Mexican. No-one in a position to put the military on the mexico/usa border wants to keep Mexicans out. How about drugs? Again you're so vague. What drugs, and why? Perhaps you're the kind who lies that people hopped up on some kind of poison are explosive balls of destructive fury, robbing raping and killing their way through the community until they drop dead of a heroin overdose. But how many people have you known like that? Tell me about one of them. You don't have to tell me about all the people you've known that are like that. Just one, save some time. Self-perpetuating governing bodies ban certain substances from the people at large. Why? You cannot list any of the reasons for not using such substances because that is not relevant. Illegal means you don't get to decide whether it's bad or not, someone else has done it for you. I don't like people who refrain from human crimes like killing and stealing simply because it is illegal. So if there was no threat of punishment then those people would blood their days away? Gross.
And of course terrorists don't exist. Are you a terrorist? How about your family? Friends? Anyone you know? Anyone they know? Anyone they know again? Where are these mysterious terrorists? At best "terrorist" is a propaganda term for soldier, or guerrilla soldier. The idea behind the word is that the soldiers in question have an unquestionably weak moral position. The power of the word is wearing off, not because people are intelligent enough to see through it (even though propaganda is a two-way street) but because they are numb to it, like hardcore pornography and spicy tacos. So what are all those words? ah, "insurgent", tha's all i can remember. Made up words become part of the in-out breath vocabulary. These words are lies and the people using them are liars. There are no terrorists. No-one has ever invaded the USA, no-one has ever declared war on the USA. The USA has only ever invaded foreign countries and they've done this consistenly for several centuries. The country is an abomination in the minds of good people everywhere yet despite this there are no shadow men plotting its downfall. The best evidence of this is the constant regaling of such "secret" men on the news television and news radio and news magazines and news papers etc every single day. It is propaganda. There is no truth in it. 3. Drugs are plenty legal. Certain drugs are illegal for a whole host of ridiculous reasons of which we're all aware I'm sure. I'll run one by for you right now. Take marijuana. It's a given that plenty of people use it all the time. It's illegal but they use it anyway and it doesn't significantly damage their lives, it is conducive to intergenerational societal living. But the police have this veto whereby should they want to arrest a particular person, for a particular reason, whatever the reason happens to be, they just go and bam! drug crime. And if the person does it, well enough; if they don't, frame them for it. Who could deny it? Everyone knows that everyone does these drugs, it's so common, it's so harmless, it's certainly not out of the question that the arrested person is "guilty" of this drug crime. Yet in that thinking, that it's common, that it's harmless, comes the obvious thought that then there is no crime.
There are only human crimes.
Kill
Steal
Assault
I think that's about it
Everything else, from the illegality of drugs to the penalties for videotaping television programs to having to have a license to drive a car are all arbitrary nonsense created by people with an agenda. The wealthy among us dance and weave between the bindings of the law, in no small part because they are the (bought or blood) friends and family of the legislators in the community, and the law enforcement too.
Are the roads such a horrendous death trap? Has the game Carmageddon come into existence? Ridiculous hyperbole only ever shows the lie of your truth, not the strength of it.
That's not a blade, this is a blade.
Additionally the USA is stuck without the metric system thanks to the guile of the people you are entrusting to decide the mettle of the supposed issues you think you are addressing above.
It's not finished. It's finished. Monkey picture. —MajandraFan |
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Thursday, February 2, 2006 at 12:05 AM RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS RABBITS! —ItHadToBeJew |
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Thursday, February 2, 2006 at 12:08 AM Okay, I can't represent it in text but I'm leaning back a bit and putting one finger on my nose and pointing the other at you, with a curt smile —MajandraFan |
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Sunday, February 5, 2006 at 10:41 PM im pretty sure i agree with you, but you write too much. if youre writing a thesis, those who are interested in your ideas will seek you out. but fuck man, thats too much. simple ideas make people believe in stupid shit, say it in a simple way brother. if god is allows free will, no destiny. if free destiny, then no prayer inluences. if no prayer influences anything, then religion in its current form is obsolete. thats it. —youreamormon |
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Monday, February 6, 2006 at 12:50 PM Illegal immigrants are not good for our country. Its goverment subsidized labor, companies pay them less than they can even survive on, and then the State and Federal goverments pick up the rest, with free health care, and welfare. So basically evenyone pays. Plus our economy is shifting from manufacturing to service, and there isn't much an illegal immigrant can do but basic manual labor. It is our governments duty to protect our borders. —rhino369 |
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Monday, February 6, 2006 at 1:11 PM What if most people wanted Christianity to be illegal? What would be in it for them? Maybe they wouldn't have to live their lives based on other people's (who are afraid to die and will believe any crock of shit that says they won't) superstitions? Btw, if it wasn't for the bible, you would be whacking people on the back of the head as they walk to their cars to take their money? Also, people thoroughly enjoy being run over by drivers drunk on that wine Jesus made from water. It is true. —blackcow |
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Monday, February 6, 2006 at 5:04 PM Rhino, do you really think that your country makes a loss on illegal immigrants?
Your government doesn't provide free healthcare or adequate welfare to citizens, what makes you think that illegal immigrants are being taken care of?
It's your government's duty to provide a good living to the members of government. Everything else is just PR. —MajandraFan |
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