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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 3:25 PM If you've seen the most recent South Park, you know Drew is going to have an aneurysm. For those who haven't, Stan's dad 'becomes' afflicted with the dreadful disease of alcoholism and must yield to God to be cured. AA is treated like a cult, and the concluding message is that drinking can be controlled by the rational mind. Personally, I agree with the spirit of the episode, but not the specific message. I often wonder if I'm one of the few listeners of Loveline who does not give a rat's ass about alcoholism or other drug addictions. I really couldn't care less about it, nor will I ever be able to empathize with such a self-inflicted problem. Nonetheless, I understand there is a physiological component. In the context of Drew's treatment of addiction, it seems even more trivial because he sees a bunch of rich celebrities who absolutely love the attention they receive for checking into rehab multiple times (the beloved Andy Dick included). Am I a sociopath, or does anyone else tune out whenever they hear "alcohol" or "opiate"? —Mahalo |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 5:39 PM I was appauled by the way Trey and Matt handled the addiction episode. They really did treat it as if alchoholism and addiction were fabrications of the mind, and could be easily controlled. They also acted like AA was a thinly veiled, religious cult whose soul purpose was to spread the word of Christ. It isn't a "God" thing, the program just suggests a higher power out of your immediate control. Although I do agree with their assertion that AA turns out religious nut jobs (who are really just trading addiction for evangelicalism and a placebo effect). —justinbaily21 |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 6:34 PM It seems like every South Park episode now is Matt and Trey trying to make a person/group look totally recockulous to prove their point, but they went a little overboard here with alcoholism. —goodtimes10 |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 6:35 PM I prefer the early south parks that were just wacky adventures that made fun of everything, as supposed to the new ones that are all heavy-handed preachfests about their creators pompous opinions. —lundy |
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Minerva-J |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 7:06 PM Have South Park ever done an episode where they kick around a serious issue that is personally destructive, like alcoholism? I've seen all the eps and I can't remember one. We've got global warming, suing schools, and the robots, but nothing like this one, that I can think of. I was sad and offended for Dr. Drew when I saw this episode, too. You know he is going to get a million calls from 13/14/32 year old tards that saw the episode and now think their parent's problem is an easily managed joke. Great representation of the AA, as well. They clearly shove Christianity down the throats of the weak and create a group of vapidly positive human shells. Although I do agree with their assertion that AA turns out religious nut jobs I agree with that too, but I'd rather have a born-again nutjob that has a stable job and can raise their own kids than a whole damn family that we all get to pay for. I'm a huge fan of South Park, but this one was too much. —Minerva-J |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 7:13 PM Trey Parker and Matt Stone sold out to become shills for the Libertarian party. They haven't made a funny episode since 2001. —ZT-In-Exile |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 7:19 PM I got into an argument about Drew’s intentions this weekend and this southpark started it; a Prof. of mine claimed that Drew’s client list was full of celebs and because it was full of celebs his observation that there was a genetic predisposition necessary. I didn’t like a non-Loveline listener making these claims, but other than his own words, I had nothing to repute it. I did tell him that Drew did Loveline for around eight years with out pay and used his middle name to obfuscate his identity so as to not generate business. Even if the clients he treats are famous, that wouldn’t affect the background of them; addicts are addicts, right? Are we mistaken? I don’t think so. I think I was challenging a blow-hard Prof.’s command of the party.
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plurry |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 7:47 PM does anyone know for a fact any celebs he has treated?
ozzy? robert downey jr? scott weiland? —plurry |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 8:28 PM
Edited Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 8:28 PM Except for this episode south park had been on a roll.
Si...fly, cracks me up every time. —Dr.Drew_boogie |
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Minerva-J |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 8:32 PM Jack Osbourne. I'm pretty sure when he was on the show he mentioned it. —Minerva-J |
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babyivan |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 10:05 PM It weas a great ep IMO!!!!!1 —babyivan |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 10:55 PM
Edited Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 10:56 PM I would agree that the south park episode was a little misplaced in trashing AA, but i think the point was that the government system for DUIs treats every offender as an alcoholic, when in fact not every body who gets a DUI is an alcoholic. Although AA may be very effective for treating alcoholism (or not) Some people just arent alcoholics, and dont need AA to stop drinking, and i they were trying to say we shouldnt just lump everybody into the same group. —fortyoz2freedom4 |
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 11:13 PM I remember one episode where someone called in talking about how their boyfriend killed himself and then revealed that he was one of drew patients adam said quickwittedly "good job drew" Anyway i doubt most, or even close to that, are celebrities —Vash |
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morningrise |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 12:19 PM i thought it was a hilarious episode, why do you people obsess about what drew thinks about everything so much? —morningrise |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 12:43 PM Has Drew mentioned this Southpark? —swifty |
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KCMO |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 2:50 PM South Park is a cartoon, and has featured a stoned towel and talking turd....I wouldn't take it too seriously. —KCMO |
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plurry |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 4:45 PM i voted for Giant Douche. —plurry |
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Beerman |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 6:33 PM F the Giant Douche, its all about the terd sandwich. —Beerman |
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_xShArPy |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 9:54 PM i have mixed feelings about it: on one hand, the 12 step program truly helps the people with the "addiction" gene because they need a stable environment/support group. Trey and Parker however seemed to be pointing out the recockolusness of people calling alcoholism a disease, rather than a disorder. and ZT how could you say south park hasn't been funny since 2001. This season has been pretty awesome, especially the scientology and whale episodes. —_xShArPy |
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plurry |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 10:00 PM the whale episode was very funny. MASA lol!!! —plurry |
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Down10 |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 11:13 PM South Park is still funny, but when Matt and Trey stop making jokes start making uneducated political assertions and pushing heavy-handed Libertarian ideas is when it loses me. Suggesting that AA is a cult, or that Global Warming is fabricated or -- and this one made me the angriest -- that voting is worthless because both "sides" are bad, is the highly irresponsible, especially with the widely-influenced audience as theirs. On Loveline, I could tell when Adam makes a joke rant, but the agenda behind some South Park episodes is a bit more devious. And while callers could complain on what Adam and Drew tell the listeners, no one gets an alternate viewpoint during South Park. That's the danger of dragging politics and social issues into your comedy, I guess. Someone else is going to have a different opinion. —Down10 |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 11:23 PM but the agenda behind some South Park episodes is a bit more devious. You're looking way too deep into this. The South Park audience is looking for Kenny to die, Cartman to call Kyle a dirty kike and Stan to throw up on that girl. South Park is funny, Matt and Trey are douchenozzles like they've always been, case closed. —greymatters |
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 11:45 PM I think everyone here is overanalyzing South Park. The only people who take South Park seriously are the truly fucked callers of Loveline.
Thats because T.V. is their only educational outlet. So just enjoy our world decay and watch people walk around carrying towels everywhere and ride the poop chute. —rAnCIDsICk@!!! |
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Monday, December 12, 2005 at 1:39 AM Except global warming is made up. The earth is in an ice age still. The same scientists who are saying we are warming were saying just 30 years ago we were heading in global cooling. —rhino369 |
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KCMO |
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Monday, December 12, 2005 at 7:50 AM Yep an Ice Age without ice here in Missouri :P —KCMO |
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Monday, December 12, 2005 at 9:13 AM South Park is funny, Matt and Trey are douchenozzles like they've always been, case closed. —greymatters I have yet to see a funny episode out of the new batch. There have been maybe 4-5 moments, but these new shows have been a parade of Mecha-Streisands. I did love the virgin Mary statue bleeding out of her ass. —bguirk |
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Monday, December 12, 2005 at 1:16 PM it wasn't out of her ass, it was out of her vagina! and thats no miracle because chicks bleed out of their vaginas all the time. —_xShArPy |
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