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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 4:27 PM I feel very strongly about keeping healthy and exercise. My close friend doesn't care and it has always worried me. She is overweight and I try to get her to come walking with me but she comes up with excuses. She's very stubborn about it and it hurts. It's like having a friend who's cutting herself and I can't do anything.
I wrote online this rant about the problems with obesity, diet, exercise etc. in this country. She read it and now won't talk to me. —rayray |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 4:40 PM Well, she's overweight enough that she knows that Ray was referring to her, so.. yeah, she's probably well in the range. If you could show her how good exercise could be, rather than how awful life is without it, she'd probably be more receptive. Swimming's good for that sort of thing, since you don't feel sweaty. If she's not too insecure with her weight, the swimsuit issue shouldn't be a large obstacle either. —Chrispy |
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adams_babymomma |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 4:45 PM *thinks about what dr.phil would say* Well my qusetion is, does she have a bf? or she searching for a potentional mate? if so you should somehow convice her that in order to get with this person she has to lose weight or else she will grow old by herself and never get laid. If she doesnt care about sex and marriage then try to make her feel as if she is NOT attractive, you should constanly tease her about her weight for ex, if you are over house and she heads to the kitchen, you should post pictures of pigs and hippos and cows all over the refrigerator and on the food around the kitchen. It may seem harsh but its the best you can do, in the end when your freind loses weight and feels good about herself, she will thank you. —adams_babymomma |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 4:46 PM Or you could leave her alone. There's nothing more annoying than someone trying to fix you when you haven't asked. You could let her know you're there for her to help if and when she's ready, but more than that is out of line. —bguirk |
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adams_babymomma |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 4:55 PM Well if rays friend complains about being fat and ugly then use my method, but if she is happy then just leave her alone. But just like adam said we need our friends to "make fun of us" like he talks about prince changing his name, he says that prince doesnt have real friends, just people that request his wishes and he makes a complete fool out of himslef. I beleive that a real friend has to let their friends know the truth. If your friend is extremely overweight like 300 lbs and up, THEN YOU NEED TO HELP HER OUT, SHE COULD LIVE A SHORT LIFE.
how much does your friend weigh? and whats her age/height? —adams_babymomma |
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mandeemoo22 |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 5:18 PM You definitely shouldn't listen to adams babymomma and be mean to her. She clearly is insecure about her weight, otherwise she wouldn't mind talking about it. You shouldn't try to get her to exercise or anything like that if she doesn't want to. That will just make her feel worse about herself. She's probably really embarassed, so if you want to talk to her, make sure she knows that it is just between you and her. Don't pressure her into doing anything, just let her know that if she wants to lose weight and if she wants any help, she can come to you. Let her know that the only reason you are doing this is because you care about her and her health. Don't mention not getting laid or anything else that could be seen as superficial. —mandeemoo22 |
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rayray |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 5:26 PM
Edited Monday, September 5, 2005 at 5:31 PM Hmm, I know for a fact she's 5'7 and she's high 200s, almost 300?
She's never had a bf, dated, been kissed, etc. She's 19 too. And she does complain about being "gross and ugly" in her journals. It's depressing for me to read it. She's not happy. She cries a lot and fights with her parents. She's on anti-depressants but only takes them "when she feels like it". She refuses to go to therapy and she gets a lot of verbal abuse from home. Very stubborn person who rebels against what you say. It's sad hearing people talk about her behind her back too.
I'm worried about everyone's health. I'm worried that my brother is gonna get heart disease since he eats so much salt in his diet. I'm worried that my dad is gonna get cirrosis of the liver cause he drinks 5-6 beers a day. I'm worried about my cousins getting lung cancer from smoking. I just don't understand why people don't care.
But, my opinons on obesity in this country will not change and I'm not sorry for saying it. —rayray |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 5:50 PM
Edited Monday, September 5, 2005 at 5:50 PM Well if she doesn't care about herself and that she is living an awful life and might die at an early age, then why should you?
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 6:19 PM One thing's for sure.
She's not living the way you want her to, and that HAS to stop. You MUST impose your lifestyle on her. Do whatever it takes until she meets your criteria, no matter how outlandish. Best of luck. —gouranga3221 |
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Putsy ThePrick |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 6:53 PM As I was reading rayray's posts, I was asking, why is she such a caretaker? Before I finished the thread she answered loud and clear: "I'm worried about everyone's health. I'm worried that my brother is gonna get heart disease since he eats so much salt in his diet. I'm worried that my dad is gonna get cirrosis of the liver cause he drinks 5-6 beers a day." WOW! rayray, this has zip, zero, nada to do with your friend. Drew is screaming all the way from the studio for you to go to al anon TONIGHT. I'm starting to wonder if you've ever even listened to Drew & Adam. You've got an obvious alcoholic father (I'm betting a billion dollars that you will apologize for him and say that he's not an alcoholic, even though his drinking has you worried about his liver, and that family system has trained you to become SUPER caretaker of the year). Drew would also tell you to get into co-dependency recovery. You're so busy being a caretaker you are committing rampant boundary violations-jeez, you're reading her journals!- (or contemplating boundary violations) on your friend. This is a very sad way to live rayray. Your friend is making a choice but you don't respect that boundary. You're trying to save people from themselves, which is a pathological type of boundary violation that WILL not go away on it's own. You've latched onto someone who sounds like she comes from a worse family system than just having an alcoholic dad. She's obviously so beaten down and depressed that she doesn't have the strength to tell you to back off. You've clearly convinced yourself that you can fix this project of a friend if you just work hard enough. Fishing for ideas on an internet forum is a neon sign that you are putting a lot of energy into fixing this so called friend. I have heard Drew say that situations like this are NOT friendships at all. —Putsy ThePrick |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 7:12 PM Raray is focused on saving everyone around her so she doesn't have to focus on her own life and problems. The cure: move out. Once you have to pay your own room and board, buy your own food, tag your own car and pay your own insurance you'll give less than a shit about a fat friend's weight problem. In short, grow up. Turn on, tune in and move out. —gouranga3221 |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 7:28 PM Well, there is nothing wrong with caring, but don't be a bitch about it. —mandeemoo22 |
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Dusty TheHick |
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Monday, September 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM Or you could leave her alone. There's nothing more annoying than someone trying to fix you when you haven't asked. You could let her know you're there for her to help if and when she's ready, but more than that is out of line. —bguirk
Quoted for truth.
P.S: Babyniggamomma, you are already the third biggest tard in the history of TLC. Are you trying for second place now? (I'm not talking about the link. That was actually pretty good.)
P.P.S: I'm speaking as a former fatty. Nothing helped until I was left alone about it, and no one (INCLUDING myself) was focusing on my weight. Then, it just kind of happened.
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 1:00 AM Swimming's good for that sort of thing, since you don't feel sweaty. - Chrispy I don't know how much weight can be lost by swimming. I have been swimming since I was 2, and I swim 3 and a half hours a day. And although, I am in shape, I know many people that swim the same amount as me and still weigh 200+ pounds. So, I don't know how much it does to weight loss. It DOES make your back muscles and triceps really big though. I think sweating has a lot to do with weight loss, and since you can't perspire in the water, I don't think you will lose as much weight as you would with other exercises. —Stryker311 |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 4:27 AM I know who the biggest tard in TLC history is but who is the second biggest? —Dr.Drew_boogie |
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catloaf |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 4:44 AM
Edited Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 4:46 AM and since you can't perspire in the water, I don't think you will lose as much weight as you would with other exercises. You DO perspire in water, you just don't notice it because you're IN water. It's very easy to get dehydrated while swimming. I'm just sayin'...
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 12:28 PM In short, grow up. —gouranga3221 Why do people say "grow up" this way? Growing up is something one does experientially, over a long period of time, yet people often say it in the form of a command, as though one could make a conscious decision to grow up. People do this with "get over it" as well. I've always found it remarkably odd. —Dark Laith |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 2:07 PM >>jeez, you're reading her journals! I'm pretty sure she meant she was reading her (public) online journals. —chix0r |
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Putsy ThePrick |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 3:52 PM
Edited Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 3:58 PM "I'm pretty sure she meant she was reading her (public) online journals." —chix0r Well hey, that changes everything then. The remaining 99.9% of what I said is now completely changed by the mere possibility of this enormous development something. Drew is absolutely correct when he says that women will "support each other's neurosis." Whether her journals are public or private it doesn't necessarily change the content. BTW, I love how women will put loads of personal information in the public domain and then be shocked when it causes problems. Like that stuartess who posted her rather unusual sex life on a blog and then got fired by the airline. The stuartess actually claimed it was "private" conversations she was having on the net via her blog. It's like women have trouble dilineating between cause and effect, and between public and private, otherwise known as boundaries. They seem to like to make boundaries hazy and gray and then cry foul when they get inconvenienced when nothing is clear. —Putsy ThePrick |
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HocusPocus |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 4:06 PM Why do people say "grow up" this way? Growing up is something one does experientially, over a long period of time, yet people often say it in the form of a command, as though one could make a conscious decision to grow up. People do this with "get over it" as well. I've always found it remarkably odd. Deal with it and Rock'n'Roll. —HocusPocus |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 4:27 PM
Edited Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 4:28 PM >>Drew is absolutely correct when he says that women will "support each other's neurosis." Does he have a saying for men who overreact? I wasn't taking anyone's side on the matter, I just thought your reaction to the idea of her reading a blog was really funny. —chix0r |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 6:04 PM P.S: Babyniggamomma, you are already the third biggest tard in the history of TLC. Are you trying for second place now? (I'm not talking about the link. That was actually pretty good.)
- Dusty the hick Who's the first and second??
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mikeyfish |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 6:14 PM I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Theo and JJGold. —mikeyfish |
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adams_babymomma |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 6:19 PM I'll take first place since theo and jjgold are men. Women cannot be more smarter than men, it's why we get paid less! —adams_babymomma |
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gouranga3221 |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 6:50 PM Anybody else picking up a certain.. familiarity when reading babynigga's posts? We all know who it is. It's cold where it lives. —gouranga3221 |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 7:28 PM and since you can't perspire in the water, I don't think you will lose as much weight as you would with other exercises.
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You DO perspire in water, you just don't notice it because you're IN water. It's very easy to get dehydrated while swimming. I'm just sayin'... —catloaf
You don't sweat in a pool. You also don't sweat when you exercise in cold weather, like -0 conditions. Your body dehydrates in such cases anyways because it uses water in the chemical reactions involved in exercising. Like burning enegry and clearing out toxic build-up from the muscles and stuff.
I could be wrong though. Any of you cunts manage to get sweaty when it is -10 outside?
p.s all measurements are non-archaic. —MajandraFan |
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Dusty TheHick |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 9:09 PM
Edited Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 9:11 PM and since you can't perspire in the water
Incorrect.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Theo and JJGold.
Vice-versa You don't sweat in a pool. You also don't sweat when you exercise in cold weather, like -0 conditions. Your body dehydrates in such cases anyways because it uses water in the chemical reactions involved in exercising. Like burning enegry and clearing out toxic build-up from the muscles and stuff.
I could be wrong though.* Any of you cunts manage to get sweaty when it is -10 outside? p.s all measurements are non-archaic. —MajandraFan
Guess who's number four. *'Twas THIS statement that narrowly averted your surpassing babyniggamomma.
And, last but not least...Putsy, what the fuck is a "stuartess?"
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MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 9:42 PM Yeah right, like you have ever tried to exercise in the cold. —MajandraFan |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 10:46 PM
Edited Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 10:46 PM ^^^^
OOOh, burn. —bguirk |
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Putsy ThePrick |
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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 10:55 PM English sucks. The next time I try to spell that word I'll think of Stewie. —Putsy ThePrick |
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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 1:32 AM damn you guys all gotem before i could freak out about the not sweating in water and losing water weight vs actual fat stuff. —adamdontgo |
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catloaf |
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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 2:27 AM I could be wrong though.
—MajandraFan Quoted for truth. —catloaf |
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MajandraFan |
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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 6:13 AM Why would you link to an article that concludes that you don't sweat unless the pool is body temperature? I mean, I'm not denying you can get sweaty in a sauna. Hot baths, they can get you sweaty too. Nevertheless, regardless of water temperature, your body won't be able to cool your thighs by releasing sweat into 40degree water. You probably only sweat on your forehead and stuff. Point is, your body won't sweat to try and cool the skin when the skin is already cool because you're in a pool of cold water or the ocean or you're jogging on a winter's night.
Or does that make too much sense.
Oh shit, maybe Adam and Drew haven't covered this topic yet, so none of you know what to think about it. Nevermind. —MajandraFan |
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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 11:45 AM Everyone knows that you only sweat in water if you are a witch. That's how it works, dip a young maiden in a lake and if the dehydrates, she is practicing witchcraft. If not, she is overweight. P.S. You are all stupid. —Ego Tard Manhammer |
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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 11:50 AM Dude--witches sink in water, not sweat. Small rocks also sink in water, just go watch Holy Grail. —bguirk |
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Dusty TheHick |
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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 7:25 PM
Edited Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 7:26 PM Why would you link to an article that concludes that you don't sweat unless the pool is body temperature?
It said "ROOM temperature," not BODY temperature. Do you only sweat when the air around you is 98.6 degrees, jackass?
...and it also didn't say you ONLY sweat then; it said how MUCH you sweat then. Read it again.
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Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 9:43 PM yeah dude your dumb. you still sweat even when your environment is cold. i guess you've never snowboarded before. anytime your body gets hot it'll sweat, being in water is irrelevant, your body dosen't care. —adamdontgo |
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Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 9:53 PM Hes right. Any snowboarder or fan of snowboarding is always right in my book. I think adamdontgo is a genious. —Stryker311 |
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Friday, September 9, 2005 at 11:27 AM Hey, I thought that if you went snowboarding then your environment is your winter clothes.
If you're on the moon, is your environment your spacesuit or the moon?
Hey people on the spacestation, do you sweat in space?
If this is the level of lateral thinking and colloquial experience... see I just like Loveline cuz its funny, not cuz its biblical... hey I need to —MajandraFan |
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Friday, September 9, 2005 at 1:50 PM i dunno. a spacesuit is a littttle bit different than a snowboard jacket, a jacket dosen't have an airtight seal and make it's own enviornment. i think you kinda used a worse analogy to prove my shady analogy wrong. i'm actually sorry for calling you dumb, i'm just absolutely posotive that people sweat in a pool. i used to be in a pool a lot. —adamdontgo |
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 12:29 PM rayray,Due to my raging heterosexual female tendencies I'm usually militantly opposed to sapphic eroticism, but in this case there is only one thing to do: Go down on your fat friend and get lost in the goodness within. —lundy |
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 12:31 PM ...and rayray was never seen or heard from again. —catloaf |
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oh-for |
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 8:53 PM Does he have a saying for men who overreact? I think that's when anderson pipes in with the "You're gay!" bit. You can't change your friend, rayray, but just let her know how you feel and that you care about her. "She's got to choose to lose the weight herself!" Be the best friend you can for her, listen more than talk. And the posts about your getting your own therapy or al-anon, probably aren't too far off the mark. —oh-for |
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Monday, September 12, 2005 at 12:49 AM *runs back to the gym for some more sets.* —bguirk |
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