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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 6:47 PM Does anyone know if Dr. Drew addressed Tom Cruise's recent criticism of Brooke Shields taking Paxil to combat depression? I know Adam will usually blast celebrities who are blow hards who preach. That would seem especially so in this case since Cruise has no apparent education other than the celebrity center for Scientology in Hollywood. Further, Cruise has claimed that he's personally gotten people off drugs. I would think Drew would have something to say about this. —Dodgerdude |
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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 7:09 PM Yeah. I would think that Drew would be pissed when some quack is out there giving out bad information -- especially when it is something that Drew is an expert in. I read where Cruise even went so far as to say that Scientology (narconon) is the ONLY successful drug treatment program. The German interviewer told him that Cruise is simply wrong and not to be believed. It would be hard to think that Pat O'Brien or some shmuck like that would do the same. —Dodgerdude |
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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 7:10 PM I read somewhere that he helped people off of drugs using vitamins. Yeah. Vitamins. —AsianOrJew |
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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 7:52 PM I guess Drew has been doing it all wrong with methadone and counseling all these years. All he needed to do was to use Scientology and vitamins. —Narcissus |
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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 8:56 PM I liked Brooke Shields response to Tom Cruise. She said something like he should stick to saving the planet from aliens. —mandeemoo22 |
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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 11:22 PM I used to be all hot & bothered for Katie, but the whole Scientology thing ruins it for me. —bguirk |
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Thursday, June 9, 2005 at 8:46 AM Well, the whole thing with Katie Holmes is a publicity stunt because Tom Cruise is gay. I have a relative who is a producer and he has gone camping with Tom Cruise and he knows that he's gay. —mandeemoo22 |
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Thursday, June 9, 2005 at 11:49 AM If Scientology is such a cure-all for addictions and is supposed to empower you with control over your life, then why has Lisa Marie Presley had such a problem with drugs and alcohol and why can't Kirstie Alley and John Travolta control their weight? —pookie |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 4:51 AM I did!
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 8:36 AM And can you blame him? ;P —catloaf |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 9:46 AM "If Scientology is such a cure-all for addictions and is supposed to empower you with control over your life, then why has Lisa Marie Presley had such a problem with drugs and alcohol and why can't Kirstie Alley and John Travolta control their weight?" BLASPHEMY!! —clodhopper |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 9:50 AM I thought it was a valid question. Kirstie Alley & Lisa Marie are very devoted to Scientology and they claim that the techniques work for gaining control in all facets of life. So my question is: Are those techniques not as fool-proof as claimed, or were they just not applying them? When Kirstie wanted to lose weight, she did not turn to Scientology, but to Jenny Craig. —pookie |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 10:38 AM I think (hope) Clodhopper was just being sarcastic to your clearly valid and pointed take on the insanity and false logic of the Scientology cure-all claims. He was taking the viewpoint of a crazy scientologist and announcing you a blasphemer. —Beat It! |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 11:05 AM I do feel bad for Katie. She looks miserable being dragged around by this religious freak. —mandeemoo22 |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 7:43 PM No, she didn't choose him. She was forced into this for his benefit only. I just made that up, but I still believe it. —mandeemoo22 |
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Friday, June 10, 2005 at 11:54 PM Hey, I like Tom Cruise, he is one of the few men I would have sex with. ;-D —DrJ69s |
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Saturday, June 11, 2005 at 3:47 AM Also -- and Adam and Drew will love this -- Cruise thinks that vitamins can "cleanse you of toxins stored in the fatty tissues of the body." As far as Katie goes, if she's not an elaborate "beard," she's totally drank the Scientology Kool-Aid too. This can't end well. —Dodgerdude |
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Saturday, June 11, 2005 at 6:14 AM She may or may not be into all that Scientology stuff, but she's definitely looking to drink the Tom-Cruise-Jizz-Aid. Hearing about how she's had a crush on him since she was 15 and stuff, it's just kinda creepy. —AsianOrJew |
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Saturday, June 11, 2005 at 9:44 AM I just read an article in the Hollywood Reporter that stated the reason for Tom's change with regards to the press is that he is no longer with his publicist. Instead he has hired his sister to do the job. The publicist he had (Adam would love this) kept a tight rein on Tom and insisted he not talk about his religion or his love life. Her motto was "mystery - keep them guessing." She felt it was good for his career to just show up at interviews and not have much to say. With the sister who is probably as crazy as he is coming from the same background does not make those demands. The article said Tom has wanted to talk about Scientology for a long time and now he has the chance. —dropping nickles |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 4:30 PM Yeah, I guess Cruise needs to take a Scientology bride so that they may be the King and Queen of the cult. I heard she's already into it and that was part of "the deal." —Dodgerdude |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:00 PM Typical cult. Middle aged guys using their position to bang much younger girls. —Beat It! |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:07 PM 1 month shy of 44 is hardly middle age, IMO. Drew is almsot 46; 47 in September. —Colin |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:09 PM but drew counters age with his passion. dildoface has no passion, so he lures the ladies in with his cult. —Passionate_Man |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:16 PM 1 month shy of 44 is hardly middle age It's not? How old does the average male live to in your world? —Beat It! |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:17 PM With the way that rich people live these days, 44 is not middle age. If you work outside and shit, 44 is definitely middle age. I said it was my opinion, monkey butt!!!! :P —Colin |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:21 PM What, now you're the new Michael Jackson? buahahahahaha —Colin |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:21 PM No touching me... —Colin |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:24 PM Then stop commenting on my simian ass. So does this mean a shower is out too? —Beat It! |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:31 PM 44 is not middle age. According to an article I just read average life expectancy in the US is 75, which means 44 is past middle age. —TonyInPortland |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:36 PM Shower maybe. Are you a dude? —Colin |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 7:44 PM Um, yeah. I was just going along with the MJ-touching angle. *awkward silence* So, how about those Scientologists...crazy huh... —Beat It! |
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Monday, June 13, 2005 at 8:14 PM hahahahaha —Colin |
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Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 12:56 PM Typical cult. Middle aged guys using their position to bang much younger girls. —Beat It! I don't plan on starting a cult, but the unbolded part is my plan for the future. —Dark Laith |
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Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 4:19 AM Now Cruise suposedly has Katie Holmes followed everywhere by a Scientologist "handler" during interviews. Homes has shitcanned her long-time publicist. Further, he claims that he was able to make a girl several inches taller. —Dodgerdude |
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Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 4:27 AM Seven inches taller in three months, to be exact. —pookie |
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Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 5:18 AM "You declared, you'd be three inches taller...You only became what we made you." —oh-for |
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Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 2:52 PM Tom Cruise is arrogant, untalented and unattractive. There's a slew of movies I haven't seen simply because he stars in them. —catloaf |
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Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 3:11 PM I wouldn't say he's untalented or unattractive, but he definitely is arrogant. —mandeemoo22 |
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 1:37 AM What's with the middle tooth? I haven't checked, but did his braces correct that? —pookie |
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 1:42 AM OH GOODY! Tom Cruise proposes to Katie Holmes at Eiffel Tower PARIS (AP) — Actor Tom Cruise said he and girlfriend Katie Holmes are engaged, after he popped the question early Friday morning atop the Eiffel Tower. Cruise, speaking at a Paris news conference with Holmes, said: "Yes, I proposed to her." The couple often shared smiles as Cruise turned to look at her, with a massive diamond ring on her finger. "It was early this morning at the Eiffel Tower, so I haven't slept at all," he said. "Today is a magnificent day for me, I'm engaged to a magnificent woman." Asked why he chose the famed Paris landmark, he said: "I've never been to the Eiffel Tower. It's Paris, it's a beautiful city, it's very romantic." Cruise, 42, was in Paris to promote the French release of the Steven Spielberg film War of the Worlds next month. He and 26-year-old Holmes went public with their romantic relationship in April. The two have faced repeated rumors of marriage. The relationship started after Cruise split from actress Penelope Cruz, and Holmes and actor Chris Klein called off their long-standing engagement. —pookie |
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 9:18 AM I say we take up a collection and get the girl some good sneakers. And a can of mace. —catloaf |
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 9:45 AM
Edited Friday, June 17, 2005 at 9:46 AM He'll just dump her in 10 years like he did the first two, when he has another gay crisis. Seriously, Nicole Kidman blows away Katie Holms on so many different levels, it's pathetic. She's (K.H) pathetic and stupid too. Converting to his wacko "religion" because she thinks "it's cool". This is all too retarded. —Masteel |
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 9:49 AM It's about as moronic as Britney Spears wearing a Kabballah (sp?) string just to copy Madonna and win her favor. I think it's quite common for many celebrities to talk about how spiritual they are while not actually living by the codes prescribed by their chosen faith. —pookie |
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 3:13 PM
Edited Friday, June 17, 2005 at 3:18 PM Drew and Adam talk about all the other celebrities but they never talk about Tom. Especially in light of Tom's comments on drug addiction and how Scientology will you get off drugs - Drew please? I can only think they don't want to discuss it is: A. They do not give an S what he is saying about drug addiction.
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 5:25 PM I say we take up a collection and get the girl some good sneakers. And a can of mace. —catloaf
...AND SOME DAMN THERAPY!!!!!!!
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Friday, June 17, 2005 at 8:45 PM Yeah, but if she goes with the scientology, she won't need therapy, or a doctor or a dentist, or any self respect. Scientology is the whole package. I think she should stick with it. It really saves you money. —mandeemoo22 |
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Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 3:09 AM
Edited Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 3:10 AM Dropping Nickles: You may be onto something because normally, they'd savage a pompous celebrity who makes such idiotic statements. But it would be their opinion and Cruise is a public figure so he can't sue under any law in the U.S. On the other hand, let's face it, Cruise does have power in this town and that may be why people are afraid to take him on. And we do know how litigious the Church of Scientology is in L.A. So that might be part of it. But still, I don't think Adam or Drew would be intimidated, do you? I know Kimmell and Conan have been shredding Cruise in their nightly monologues so why wouldn't Adam? They don't have to worry that he'd ever go on the show, so let him have it. Re engagement: Of course it had to be the Eiffel Tower. Then they had to call a press conference to announce it. What a joke. —Dodgerdude |
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 10:39 PM I was on the streets of downtown Seattle one time. Two guys with clipboards were standing out in front of a building. One guy said to me, “You want to take a free personality test?” I said, “Ah, no.” This guy starting beating up on me to come inside the building. He was like a vacuum cleaner salesman. He tried to do everything he could to get me to come inside. I looked up and the building said Church of Scientology. I walked away, it was creepy.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 10:59 PM Did he touch you in your naughty spot? —Masteel |
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 11:17 PM Did he touch you in your naughty spot?—Masteel No, the guy didn’t touch my naughty spot. Maybe we should ask ZT, maybe a Scientology guy touched ZT’s peepee.
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Monday, June 20, 2005 at 1:02 AM Maybe he "cleared" you of evil. (isn't that what they do?) —Dodgerdude |
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Monday, June 20, 2005 at 9:53 AM This is a wierd story with Tom Cruise. Just the way he handled the interaction seems kind of interesting to me. Tom Cruise Squirted With Water Gun
Monday, June 20, 2005
LONDON — The London premiere of Steven Spielberg's "War of the Worlds (search)" turned into a war of words after Tom Cruise (search) was squirted in the face by a man posing as a reporter. Four men were released on bail and were ordered to return to a police station Monday, when they may be charged with assault, a police spokesman said. The 42-year-old actor was outside a movie theater in central London's Leicester Square doing press interviews Sunday when a man squirted Cruise with a water pistol disguised as a microphone, London's Metropolitan Police said. Cruise appeared to laugh at the incident but then asked the prankster: "Why would you do that?" As the man gave a barely audible excuse, Cruise said: "Do you like thinking less of people, is that it?" The prankster tried to walk away but Cruise reached across the metal barrier, held his arm and said: "Don't run away. That's incredibly rude. I'm here giving you an interview and you do that ... it's incredibly rude." The actor grew increasingly irritated and told the man: "You're a jerk." Police detained the man who squirted Cruise and arrested three other men who filmed the incident. The four were working on a new comedy show for British TV station Channel 4 in which celebrities are the targets of practical jokes. They were released on bail several hours later. Katie Holmes (search), who became engaged to Cruise last week, was at the premiere but not by Cruise's side when the incident occurred. In an interview with Newsweek magazine, on newsstands Monday, Spielberg denies that media attention on Cruise and Holmes forced a change in the publicity campaign for "War of the Worlds." The couple went public with their romance in April.
"People say, 'Oh, you didn't put Tom on the poster because of what happened. No. The poster was designed in January ... and my decision with all my films has been to use iconography on the posters," Spielberg says. "Tom was fine with that. It's the first time Tom has not been on a poster in his career, by the way."
As for Cruise's exuberant appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" last month, Spielberg tells the magazine: "What Tom did on 'Oprah' was exactly what Tom did with me when he first told me about Katie Holmes. But the press didn't like the way Tom bared his soul to Oprah."
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Monday, June 20, 2005 at 2:35 PM Wow, I guess now we know the truth. Scientologists are also witches. This explains everything! —mandeemoo22 |
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Monday, June 20, 2005 at 7:00 PM wahhh i got squirted in the face. WAHHHHHH!!! im important and everyone must obey me! WAHHHH!!! go eat a dick, cruise. —Passionate_Man |
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Monday, June 20, 2005 at 7:32 PM /\I'm sure he's waaaaaaaaay ahead of you there. —catloaf |
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Monday, June 20, 2005 at 8:22 PM Tom was married to that huge-breasted sex goddess Mimi Rogers.After several years of marriage, Mimi claims that they never had sex! I'm thinking that Tom likes the man meat.And by man-meat, I mean he has a proclivity for penis. You know what I'm sayin'nudge-nudge wink-wink..a wink is as good as a nudge. Are we on the same page here folks? What I'm hinting at is that Tommy is a MO! — cab-merlot |
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Tuesday, June 21, 2005 at 7:14 PM Tom Cruise Squirted With Water Gun Kimmel showed the clip last night. Pretty funny. Cruise gave the guy a long lecture. —TonyInPortland |
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Tuesday, June 21, 2005 at 10:18 PM The thing about Scientology: imagine if a priest took notes on the confessions he'd heard, then threatened to call the papers with the dirt on you if you didn't show up to Mass or ate meat on Friday. I mean, they're a cult and all, but that's how they keep the celebrities in. —Dubious Merit |
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Wednesday, June 22, 2005 at 12:27 AM Weird article here by Roger Friedman, he seems to be suggesting that Katie Holmes was somehow blackmailed, brainwashed, or otherwise coerced to be with Tom Cruise. Weird. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160192,00.html Katie Holmes' Missing Days
Tuesday, June 21, 2005
By Roger Friedman The newly engaged Katie Holmes still has some explaining to do to her friends and family. There were 16 days in April during which no one seems to know where she was. Holmes made a public appearance on April 4 at the premiere of "Steel Magnolias" on Broadway. She came with her publicist, Leslie Sloane Zelnick, and a couple of other friends. They were there to support Rebecca Gayheart, who was making her Broadway debut. I know this because I spoke to Holmes at length during the play's intermission. She said she had just moved into her New York apartment and was looking forward to seeing the city. I also know that on April 4, she had not yet made the acquaintance of Tom Cruise. She briefly dated Josh Hartnett after breaking up with actor Chris Klein. Hartnett, Klein, Cruise: Which of these three is not like the others? Klein and Hartnett are young and tall. Cruise is middle-aged and height-challenged. On the other hand, he's the biggest movie star in the world. They are not. Holmes was busy during that first week in April. On April 7, she was photographed at the Fragrance Foundation's FiFi event. Four days later, Holmes was still in New York and was photographed at VH1's "Save the Music" concert. She still had not met Cruise. Sometime that week, her friends say, she flew to Los Angeles for a meeting with Cruise about a role in "Mission: Impossible 3." The meeting took place after April 11. The next time anyone heard from Holmes was on April 27, when she appeared in public as Cruise's girlfriend and love of his life. Where was she during those 16 days? Somewhere during that time, she decided to fire both her manager and agent, each of whom she had been with for years and who were devoted to her. The manager, John Carrabino, also handles Renée Zellweger and is beloved by his clients. Holmes also acquired a new best friend, Jessica Feshbach, the daughter of Joe Feshbach, a controversial Palo Alto, Calif., bond trader. The Feshbach family, according to published documents, has donated millions to the Church of Scientology. Jessica's aunt even runs a Scientology center in Florida. According to Richard Behar's now famous 1991 story in Time magazine about Scientology, the Feshbachs were the subject of congressional hearings in 1989. Behar wrote: "The heads of several companies claimed that Feshbach operatives have spread false information to government agencies and posed in various guises — such as a Securities and Exchange Commission official — in an effort to discredit the companies and drive the stocks down. "Michael Russell, who ran a chain of business journals, testified that a Feshbach employee called his bankers and interfered with his loans. Sometimes the Feshbachs send private detectives to dig up dirt on firms, which is then shared with business reporters, brokers and fund managers." The risk-taking Feshbachs, known the world over for making their fortune "shorting" stocks, and the level-headed, conservative Holmeses would be a difficult mix at a dinner table. Katie's father, Martin Holmes, is the senior partner in a large and respected Toledo, Ohio, law firm. His son, Martin Jr., has recently joined the firm. He's a Harvard graduate. Katie's mom, Kathy, is frequently cited in Toledo for her charity work. There is some fear among Holmes' close circle that her instant romance with Cruise is not as organic as portrayed. For one thing, Holmes was raised a strict Catholic. Also, gone from the picture are two close Holmes friends who used to be with her when she did publicity for a film. One of these is Meghann Birie, a childhood friend who has suddenly disappeared from Holmes' world. Another, a local TV producer here in New York, was too afraid to discuss the situation with me. We know that Cruise auditioned several actresses for this role before settling on Holmes. This column reported a story about Jennifer Garner. There have been published stories about Kate Bosworth, Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Alba being approached. A newer one involves Scarlett Johansson, who ran for her life when presented with a fait accompli dinner at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood. And history has been rewritten since the April 27 unveiling. Curiously, since the Cruise-Holmes situation popped up, we have heard over and over again that Cruise was the young actress' idol when she was growing up. That's certainly interesting because all of the publicity that used to run on Holmes — still found all over the Internet — lists another Tom as her favorite actor. That would be Tom Hanks.
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Wednesday, June 22, 2005 at 12:48 PM Gayheart Nice last name. It sounds like some sort of homoerotic porn parody of Braveheart. —Dark Laith Dude, my mind just went nuts with that, the entire parody popped into my mind, starring Will Ferril. Awesome. —Masteel |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 9:52 AM CNN had an article about Cruise on the Today Show: When Lauer mentioned Cruise's earlier criticism of Brooke Shields for taking anti-depressants, Cruise told the "Today" show co-host he didn't know what he was talking about. "You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do," Cruise said. The interview became more heated when Lauer, who said he knew people who had been helped by the attention-deficit disorder drug Ritalin, asked Cruise about the effects of the drug. "Matt, Matt, you don't even -- you're glib," Cruise responded. "You don't even know what Ritalin is. If you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, OK. That's what I've done."
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 10:03 AM I fucking hate Tom Cruise. He's such a prick. —catloaf |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 10:34 AM Did you read about the doll from Mars? "(Hubbard's) theology, which is today accepted by millions, eventually leads to tales of preincarnate souls trapped in ice cubes from the planet Mars: "One preclear (student of Scientology) said that this Thetan (somewhat similar to 'soul' or 'spirit') had inhabited the body of a doll on the planet Mars 469,476,600 years ago. Martians seized the doll and took it to a temple, where it was zapped by a bishop's gun while the congregation chanted 'God is Love.' The Thetan was then put in an ice cube, placed aboard a flying saucer, and dropped off at Planet ZX 432, where it was given a robot body, then put to work unloading flying saucers. Being a bit unruly, it zapped another robot to death and was shipped off in a flying saucer to be punished. But the flying saucer exploded, and the Thetan fell into space" (story as reprinted in Kingdom of the Cults, p. 346, 1985 ed.). While this may be where the theology of the Church of Scientology eventually leads, it is not explained to the initiate in these precise words." Umm, yeah. The above is from:
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 11:41 AM Hubbard is just some guy who decided to make up a religion. I think I'm going to do that too. Why, Tom, why must you make me hate you even more everyday? —mandeemoo22 |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 11:42 AM
Edited Friday, June 24, 2005 at 11:43 AM I read Tom the fag's interview while at the gym this morn(subtitles.) He needs to rehire his asswipe douschenozzle publicist to shut him the fuck up. Man, I just wanted to bitch slap him. You've got to be kidding me. I can't stand Matt Lauer, but had to side with him. He should have slugged Mr. war of the worlds. Too bad the Martians didn't win. I have read some of Hubbard's books, well one at least, and liked it, but he's a wacko too. Howdy PB hater. —oh-for |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 11:43 AM Mandee is right. Hubbard was a science fiction writer who was not earning enough money. He realized that religions rake in a ton of cash, so he decided to start his own religion as a way of making money. —pookie |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 11:44 AM Yeah, that old publicist definitely had the right idea - I never knew Tom was so crazy. —chix0r |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 11:45 AM His new publicist is his sister. Big mistake. —pookie |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 12:12 PM
Edited Friday, June 24, 2005 at 12:13 PM He realized that religions rake in a ton of cash, so he decided to start his own religion as a way of making money. Isn't that how pretty much all of them start? A desire for someone to have money and/or power and exploit the weak-minded (yes, that means you, Maverick). —Beat It! |
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Friday, June 24, 2005 at 2:02 PM WHAT ARE THIS IDIOT'S QUALIFICATIONS TO LECTURE PEOPLE ON THIS TOPIC? HE'S OUT OF CONTROL!
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRI JUNE 24, 2005 10:51:08 ET XXXXX
CRUISE 'WAR OF WORLDS' INTERVIEW TURNS INTO SHOWDOWN ON PSYCHIATRY, SCIENTOLOGY NBC 'TODAY SHOW' host Matt Lauer was lectured by star Tom Cruise on the dangers of psychiatry and antidepressant during a promotional interview for WAR OF THE WORLDS. The exchange aired Friday morning. LAUER: TOM CRUISE CREATED A FIRESTORM WHEN HE CRITICIZED BROOKE SHIELDS FOR REVEALING THAT SHE WENT INTO THERAPY AND TOOK ANTIDEPRESSANTS TO DEAL WITH HER POST PARTUM DEPRESSION. AS A SCIENTOLGIST, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PSYCHIATRIC MEDICINE. I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS COMMENTS. CRUISE: i've never agreed with psychiatry, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with psychiatry. and when i started studying the history of psychiatry, i understood more and more why i didn't believe in psychology. //And as far as the Brooke Shields thing is, look. You gotta understand, I really care about Brooke Shields. I-- I think here's a-- a-- a wonderful and talented woman. And-- I wanna see her do well. And I know that-- psychiatry is-- is a pseudo science. MATT LAUER: But-- but Tom, if she said that this particular thing helped her feel better, whether it was the antidepressant or going to a counselor or psychiatrist, isn't that enough? // TOM CRUISE: Matt, you have to understand this. Here we are today where I talk out against drugs and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people (PH), okay, against their will, of drugging children with them not knowing the effects of these drugs. Do you know what Aderol (PH) is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug? Do you understand that? MATT LAUER: The difference is-- (OVERTALK) TOM CRUISE: No, no, Matt. MATT LAUER: This wasn't against her will, though. TOM CRUISE: Matt-- Matt, Matt, Matt-- MATT LAUER: But this wasn't against her will. TOM CRUISE: Matt, I'm-- Matt, I'm asking you a question. MATT LAUER: I understand there's abuse of all of these things. TOM CRUISE: No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.// MATT LAUER: //aren't there examples, and might not Brooke Shields be an example, of someone who benefited from one of those drugs? TOM CRUISE: all it does is mask the problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does. That's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. (OVERTALK) MATT LAUER: So, postpartum depression to you is-- TOM CRUISE: Matt-- MATT LAUER: --kind of a-- TOM CRUISE: --don't-- MATT LAUER: --little psychological gook-- TOM CRUISE: That-- MATT LAUER: --googley-gook? TOM CRUISE: --no. No. I did not say that. MATT LAUER: I'm just asking what you-- what would you call it? TOM CRUISE: No. No. Abs-- Matt, that is-- the-- post-- now-- now, you're talking about two different things. MATT LAUER: But that's what she went on the-- TOM CRUISE: No. MATT LAUER: --antidepressant for. TOM CRUISE: But what happens, the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things. I'm not saying that that isn't real. That's not what I'm saying. That's an alteration of what-- what I'm saying. I'm saying that drugs aren't the answer, these drugs are very dangerous. They're mind-altering, anti-psychotic drugs. And there are ways of doing it without that so that we don't end up in a brave new world. // the thing that I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation, okay. And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She-- she doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt. // MATT LAUER: But a little bit what you're saying Tom is, you say you want people to do well. But you want them do to well by taking the road that you approve of, as opposed to a road that may work for them. TOM CRUISE: No, no, I'm not. MATT LAUER: Well, if antidepressants work for Brooke Shields, why isn't that okay? TOM CRUISE: I-- I disagree with it. And I think that there's a higher and better quality of life. And I think that promoting for me personally, see, you're saying what, I can't discuss what I wanna discuss? MATT LAUER: No. You absolutely can. TOM CRUISE: I know. But-- but Matt, you're going in and saying that-- that I can't discuss this. MATT LAUER: I'm only asking, isn't there a possibility that-- do-- do you examine the possibility that these things do work for some people? That yes, there are abuses. And yes, maybe they've gone too far in certain areas. Maybe there are too many kids on Ritalin. Maybe electric shock-- TOM CRUISE: Too many kids on Ritalin? Matt. MATT LAUER: I'm just saying. But-- but aren't there-- TOM CRUISE: Matt. MATT LAUER: --examples where it works? TOM CRUISE: Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even-- you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is.// //if you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, okay. That's what I've done. Then you go and you say where's-- where's the medical test? Where's the blood test that says how much Ritalin you're supposed to get? MATT LAUER: You're-- you're-- it's very impressive to listen to you. Because clearly, you've done the homework. And-- and you know the subject. TOM CRUISE: And you should. MATT LAUER: And-- and-- TOM CRUISE: And you should do that also. MATT LAUER: And-- TOM CRUISE: Because just knowing people who are on Ritalin isn't enough. //you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing really-- MATT LAUER: I'm not prescribing Ritalin, Tom. And I'm not asking-- TOM CRUISE: Well-- MATT LAUER: --anyone else to do it. I'm simply saying-- (OVERTALK) TOM CRUISE: Well, you are. You're saying-- MATT LAUER: I know some people who seem to have been helped by it. TOM CRUISE: I-- but you're saying-- but you-- like-- this is a very important issue. MATT LAUER: I couldn't agree more. TOM CRUISE: It's very-- and you know what? You're here on the Today Show. MATT LAUER: Right. TOM CRUISE: And to talk about it in a way of saying, "Well, isn't it okay," and being reasonable about it wh | |
