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AirGolem

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 9:58 PM

Both Adam and Drew are soo clearly Republicans, though they may be moderates, they are clearly republicans. I wish they would stop spouting their political views, its kinda turning me off to the show.

AirGolem

  

jeff94

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:02 PM

i'm against ANY type of watering-down of political views by reporters. Fox news does the least of this on the right, and PBS and NPR on the left for main media. I don't like it when they pretend not to care and obviously do.

jeff94

  

jeremycobert

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:08 PM

most adults are republican, so whats your point ?

jeremycobert

  

Colin

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:13 PM

Beg to differ:

Colin

  

Colin

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:14 PM

The data is here. Please, discount the data as being skewed. It turns me on...

Colin

  

Ganthet

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:20 PM

Wonder what's with the spike of men being Dems at 70.

I guess there are now 2 things people find when they get older: God and a political party to identify with.

Ganthet

  

Colin

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:29 PM

Don't foget Geritol and enema bags!!!

Colin

  

malproxy

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:36 PM

listen to what Adam and Drew say and you'll see they're more libertarian than anything else, abeit saner.

malproxy

  

jeremycobert

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:42 PM

i said adults, just cause you are over 18 does not mean you're an adult.

jeremycobert

  

Colin

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 10:43 PM

I knew you'd have a caveat.

Colin

  

Dusty TheHick

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 11:00 PM

Don't foget Geritol and enema bags!!!

—Colin

..and Judge Judy and the Weather Channel.

Dusty TheHick

  

Colin

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 11:03 PM

HEY!! The weather channel is great. Storm Stories, local on the 8's, those "too hot for their own good or to just be weather chicks" chicks, "on the scene" reporters who stand in the path of hurricanes, tonadoes, hail storms, lightning, etc, and lots of video of idiots who can't drive on snow.

Colin

  

danimal21

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 11:52 PM

Adam & Drew are Republican???? I'm starting to like them even more. Sorry all you loser tree huggers.

danimal21

  

gouranga3221

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 11:55 PM

"Wonder what's with the spike of men being Dems at 70. "
-Ganthet

When men get to their senior years, they begin producing more estrogen, and less testosterone. So they become pu.. well, you get the idea.

gouranga3221

  

steve

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Tuesday, December 7, 2004 at 11:55 PM

Adam and Drew transcend political parties.

steve

  

Colin

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:04 AM
Edited Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:04 AM

danimal21

Adam & Drew are Republican???? I'm starting to like them even more. Sorry all you loser tree huggers.

You do relaize that the term conservative is derived from conservation. Also known as hugging trees, or environmentalism. It's just that the true conservative has been MIA for about 40 years now. Smaller government, less federal involvement in state's issues, etc. That's who Republicans USED to be.

Colin

  

gouranga3221

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:09 AM

On one of the last episodes of this season of 'Real Time With Bill Maher', Bill and the guests were talking about how the conservatives and liberals have actually just traded places over the last few decades. Interesting how these folks who are so rabid used to hold the beliefs of the opposite group.

gouranga3221

  

danimal21

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:17 AM

Well Colin thanks for that lovely lecture....you can now go back to beating off to the weather channel

danimal21

  

Colin

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:21 AM

Who's lecturing? It's the facts.

I use BET, thank you very much.

Colin

  

Ganthet

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:38 AM

I was specifically wondering why men who are Dems spike at 70 but go down to their pre-70 levels at 75 and 80. Do older Dems make for better soilent green?

Ganthet

  

Colin

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:45 AM

I would bet it's because they are the WWII generation.

Colin

  

Narcissus

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 1:41 AM

Somebody should ask Charlton Heston if he likes to make biscuits. Er, rather, if he likes Soylent Green biscuits. Charlton Heston was in that movie.

Do older Dems make for better soilent green?

Narcissus

  

clodhopper

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 10:20 AM

"Both Adam and Drew are soo clearly Republicans, though they may be moderates, they are clearly republicans. I wish they would stop spouting their political views, its kinda turning me off to the show."

Routinely, Adam and Drew's views both fall outside the realm of what Republican endorse. Adam would be closer to a Libertarian than a Republican and I can't speak for Drew. Adam's views are actually quite refreshing at times, though I do disagree with some of them.

One thing I will blast is how you seem to be a victim of political polarization. Most Americans simply perceive two ideologies: Republican or Democrat. Their own limited ability to understand politics leads to all sorts of lumping of unrelated ideas together and also damns us all to two corrupt parties.

clodhopper

  

Dark Laith

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 11:00 AM

Adam and Drew transcend political parties.

Dark Laith

  

Folgers

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:33 PM
Edited Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 12:34 PM

Soylent Green is STILL PEOPLE!!!! and Soylent Cow Pies ARE PEOPLE, THEY JUST CHANGED THE RECIPE!!!
-the late Phil Hartman as Charleton Heston

Folgers

  

OldTrafford017

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 1:31 PM

There are more registered Democrats than Republicans. That's a fact. The problem is not many people vote. Only about 105 million out of 270 million Americans voted. If everyone voted, Democrats would easily be in power but too many people don't even bother or care to vote.

OldTrafford017

  

Dark Laith

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 1:42 PM

Yeah, but remember what Adam says... think of all the people out there that you DON'T want voting.

Dark Laith

  

no! cannot have!

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 2:40 PM

the reason old people vote for the democrats is because they want the government (or i should say working americans) to cover the cost of their medical bills and retirement. if they were smart when they were younger and saved up for retirement, i think they'd be more likely to vote republican so that less of their estate went to the government.

no! cannot have!

  

clodhopper

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 3:57 PM

Actually there are about 281 million Americans and only about 200 millions are eligble to vote (over 18).

clodhopper

  

vote_no

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 4:16 PM

Adam and Drew do indeed transcend political parties. Remember all the times where Adam has suggested abortion to callers? For goodness sake, please pay attention to his rants! I remember one that went on for half the show (it was the ninth of November, I think) in which he complained about the tards on both sides. They are indeed the true conservatives. Republican. Hah! Quite amusing.

vote_no

  

Dark Laith

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 6:10 PM

Thought it was 288 total...

Dark Laith

  

Colin

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 6:13 PM

Current population.

Another source to be painted as biased. Paint away...

Colin

  

savethebabies

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Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 9:10 PM

the reason old people vote for the democrats is because they want the government (or i should say working americans) to cover the cost of their medical bills and retirement. if they were smart when they were younger and saved up for retirement, i think they'd be more likely to vote republican so that less of their estate went to the government.
—no! cannot have!

I agree. The elderly become dependent on government and basically join the WELFARE group hence the move to the left. Middle-aged/older people, especially with families, tend to go conservative because they start to care about the safety and security about people other than themselves. They are also forced to think what kind of a world/culture do they want their kids to grow up in.

savethebabies

  

Farty Face

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 7:15 AM

LOLZ let me summerize this for yall:


1. Someone says that Most adults are Republicans

2. Colin gets mad and says its not true. He offers PROOF that this is not the case.

3. Colins proof shows that MOST people age 25 - 40 are in fact republicans

4. The world laughs at Colins stupidity.

So only those 50 and over are adults??? are you that retarded? At what age does one cease to be an adult and instead become a senior citizen?

Farty Face

  

ZT

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 7:22 AM

As much as callous conservatives might think this is true, Adam and Drew are very progessive on most social issues.

ZT

  

TortillaFactory

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 9:18 AM

Good point, Farty Face. Unfortunately, no one takes you seriously.

Adam and Drew do transcend political parties, so kudos to whoever said that. As far as I can tell, Adam is best defined by what he is opposed to, and Drew usually agrees:

1) He doesn't like conspiracy theories, religion, or superstition.

2) He doesn't like politicians.

3) He doesn't like his tax money being spent on useless things.

4) He doesn't want the government to take care of everybody all the time.

TortillaFactory

  

Colin

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 12:33 PM

Good one farty. So now people aged 25-40 are the only adults in this country because you think that data makes me look bad.

3 out of 13 age groups are overwhelmingly republican:

30 years

35 years

40 years

At 25 years, they are basically tied. Read this one carefully: senior citizens are still adults. Being a senior citizen is a stage of adulthood. Just like middle age is a stage of adulthood. Like young adult is a stage of adulthood.

Why must you discount people who disagree with you? Not me (I'm not concerned with your opinion about me), but seniors who are democratic leaning.

Colin

  

gouranga3221

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 1:07 PM

Let ME summarize THIS.

1) Farty Face makes a fuck out of himself in this forum.

2) No one cares what Farty Face says anymore.

gouranga3221

  

Colin

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 1:09 PM

No. I must disagree whole-fartedly.

Colin

  

ZT

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 2:25 PM

1) dog balls

2) dog balls

3) dee-ogg bah-alls.

ZT

  

clodhopper

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 3:48 PM

4) more tasty dog balls

clodhopper

  

Dusty TheHick

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 4:51 PM

Guess what I am doing right now?

Dusty TheHick

  

GooseAss

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 9:36 PM

i'd say adam and drew are what they call "south park republicans": conservative on things like welfare, foreign policy, crime, etc but extremely liberal on social issues.

oringal article that coined the phrase here: http://www.holtorf.com/Ray/south_park_republicans.htm

personally i really appreciate their political rants as they communicate a point of view you don't hear often enough. i like to think of it as simple pragmatism.

GooseAss

  

redsmith007

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 9:59 PM

they're both athiest and right thinking people

abortions--ok--with reason
taxes--ok--with reason
guns--ok--with reason
drugs--ok--with reason
racism--ok--always (lol)

redsmith007

  

savethebabies

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 10:43 PM

Drew is clearly Christian. He's piped up about Christian values during Adam's rants against religion a few times. Adam has also mention about Drew's kids "being raised in a semi-Christian home".

savethebabies

  

greymatters

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 12:32 AM

When Adam is talking about the kids being raised in a "Christian-like home" he's talking about how Drew's wife is Christian and how she rules the house. Adam is actually digging into Drew for being a pussy about the raising of his kids. Everything Adam says should be looked at through the Adam Prism ©.

greymatters

  

Farty Face

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 12:40 AM


Hey colin who won the last election?

Still think most voters are democrats?


GOOD LOGIC COPERNICUS PLEASE CONTINUE TO SHARE THE MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE WITH US SINCE YOU ARE SO THE SMART

Farty Face

  

TortillaFactory

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 12:53 AM

wow FF. I half expected the next sentence to be ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.

TortillaFactory

  

Colin

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 1:22 AM

Listen up, farty: a lot of registered democrats voted for 43 this time. You don't have to vote for the party you're registered to unless it's the primary. Thought you'd know that with your government degree and all...

pwn3d!!

Colin

  

greymatters

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 1:39 AM

The Repubicans did a great job of marketing to issues beyond party lines, like homophobia. It was brilliant how they had the gay marriage ban measures in key states, especially in Ohio. I believe Ohio voted to ban gay marriage by at least a twenty percent margin.

greymatters

  

Colin

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 1:57 AM

62% yes
38% no

Colin

  

Dark Laith

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 8:39 AM

Hey colin who won the last election?

Still think most voters are democrats?

Oh, of course. How could I forget? We had a 100% voter turnout in the last election, didn't we?

Dark Laith

  

ZT

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 4:12 PM
Edited Friday, December 10, 2004 at 4:13 PM

"Politics is just a way to pass the day, while deciding if you're straight or gay." -- Daddybruce Lee

I'm listening to him right now, http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/ZT/. Poor defunct guy.

ZT

  

Dusty TheHick

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 5:30 PM

No WONDER ZT is so into Politics!

Dusty TheHick

  

jeff94

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 5:54 PM

Gotta go, not sure if it's been posted, but in that graph, it shows between 45%/20% as independent. That enough should let you know that data is skewed. That's obviously not true. Only about 3% go to people not belonging to one of the 2 major parties.

jeff94

  

jeff94

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 6:05 PM

You do relaize that the term conservative is derived from conservation. Also known as hugging trees, or environmentalism.

The verb conserve came from latin conservo, meaning to save. Liberal comes from latin's libero, meaning to free.

So we republicans save, you all free.

Obviously the definitions have changed a lot. Conservative values today mean no major changes in the government, traditional values are kept, and usually more seperation between the government and the people. Liberals are more radical when involved with the government. They're excited to change things, and have different ideas on how money should spent, and the amount of freedom people should have when it comes to abortion and free speech, as a few examples. The old meanings don't mean anything. Every term changes over the years and you need to keep up with it, not use a dictionary definition that was, at one time, correct.

DL-
Hey colin who won the last election?

Still think most voters are democrats?

Oh, of course. How could I forget? We had a 100% voter turnout in the last election, didn't we?

I thought this was supposed to be the election when the liberals were determined to not let Bush cheat his way into office again... With all that "determination" over the presiedent that "scares" so many people, it's AMAZING a clear majority of the country decided who they wanted to lead.

On another note, I HATE how low liberals go with politics. All the prestige and respect has been lost since Clinton.

jeff94

  

Colin

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 6:09 PM

Every term changes over the years and you need to keep up with it, not use a dictionary definition that was, at one time, correct.

Of course the only definition that hasn't or will ever change is that of marriage, right? That one will always be between a man and a woman...

Colin

  

Colin

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 6:12 PM

I'd love to hear more on the republicans' views on the limits of free speech.

/sits down with some popcorn for the sure to follow entertainment...

Colin

  

Dark Laith

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 7:06 PM

With all that "determination" over the presiedent that "scares" so many people, it's AMAZING a clear majority of the country decided who they wanted to lead.

Yeah, well, people can be really dumb and gullible sometimes. And I wouldn't call 51%-49% a "clear" majority. That's called a "slim" majority.

Dark Laith

  

steve

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 8:58 PM

Yeah, that's the textbook definition of "slim majority" -- I mean, you'd have to break it down into decimals for it to be any more of a slim majority... Speaking of which, let's break it down now gentlemen...

steve

  

Dusty TheHick

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Friday, December 10, 2004 at 10:15 PM

That ballot box? NOT A CHAIR!!!!!!

Dusty TheHick

  

Farty Face

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 10:13 AM

Colin logic rules.


All senior citizens are considerd adults????

Ok so by that logic then all adults are considered children.

and all children are considered babys and they are all considered featus's.

Oh, of course. How could I forget? We had a 100% voter turnout in the last election, didn't we?
—Dark Laith

Nice point. Only likly voters count. So therefore a majority of Americans are republicans.

Farty Face

  

Dark Laith

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 10:28 AM

All senior citizens are considerd adults????

Ok so by that logic then all adults are considered children.

and all children are considered babys and they are all considered featus's.

I think you COMLPETELY missed his point.

Nice point. Only likly voters count. So therefore a majority of Americans are republicans.

OHHH FUNNY LOLOLOLOLO

Dark Laith

  

gouranga3221

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 12:28 PM

Colin logic rules.
All senior citizens are considerd adults????
Ok so by that logic then all adults are considered children.
and all children are considered babys and they are all considered featus's.
-Farty Face

I don't theenk Fartmaster is in anee posishon too challinge ineebodee's logik.

Hookt on fonix werkt fer me!

gouranga3221

  

Lou Cypher

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 12:42 PM

HAHAHAHAHA! Farty, you're funny. Your obvious typos and horrible logic gaps are a funny satirical comment on political blowhards and the advent of their explosion on the internet. Oh, you weren't serious, were you?

Lou Cypher

  

Dusty TheHick

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 2:44 PM

Senior citizens are not CONSIDERED adults, they ARE adults. They are not CHILDREN, are they? An adult is any person who has reached physical (and hopefully mental) maturity.

Dusty TheHick

  

goodtimes3

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 5:54 PM

why??? jesus christ you tards, dont you have anything better to do than argue politics on a LOVELINE forum? honestly. these debates go nowhere fast. get over it.

goodtimes3

  

clodhopper

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 6:02 PM

Not only argue politics but argue as if either the Republican or Democratic platforms are actually valid. It's like arguing over whether to kill yourself with a gun or poison.

clodhopper

  

gouranga3221

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Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 6:23 PM

Politics is a serious red thread in American life. Go to any forum, about any old subject, and in the active threads section, there will be politics.

And besides, on any other forum than this one, you wouldn't be exposed to the gleaming beam of intelligence that is Farty Face.

*BARF*

gouranga3221

  

ZT

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 3:49 AM

Just to let you all know, I'm 1/8th native american. So, you know, I'm very offended.

ZT

  

TortillaFactory

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 9:31 AM

Me too, ZT!

NA NA HEY! CHA CHEENY WAH!

TortillaFactory

  

Wugie

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 11:08 AM

Funny how all the democrates post stuff that makes sense and all the republicans are posting irrational rants with retarded logic and typos that wouldn't be made by a 5th grader.

Wugie

  

Dark Laith

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 1:32 PM

CHA CHEENY WAH!

Wait a minute... cha Cheney wah...?

Funny how all the democrates post stuff that makes sense and all the republicans are posting irrational rants with retarded logic and typos that wouldn't be made by a 5th grader.

Sadly, it can be the reverse at times. This is just the tard-pendulum swinging in our favor for the moment...

Dark Laith

  

AirGolem

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 5:40 PM

why does everyone hate Colin, he seems to make accurate points

AirGolem

  

Dark Laith

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 6:36 PM

They hate him because he's right.

Dark Laith

  

goodtimes3

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 6:36 PM

go away schitzo troll

goodtimes3

  

ZT

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Monday, December 13, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Edited Monday, December 13, 2004 at 10:43 AM

Awww... Don't be so mean to Mr. Colin. I can't remember if he ever said something I didn't like. So, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that I like him.

Either way, I was baiting people a lot during the weeks before the election and trying to pick fights -- which I'll do again in another two years, and another four. So I wouldn't be suprised if I brought out the bad parts in some people. I wasn't showing my good side.

ZT

  

GooseAss

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Monday, December 13, 2004 at 11:05 AM

supposedly it snowed today here in ohio, but i won't believe it until i hear it on the radio. until then, it's shorts and a t-shirt for me.

GooseAss

  

Farty Face

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 8:55 PM

Funny how all the democrates post stuff that makes sense and all the republicans are posting irrational rants with retarded logic and typos that wouldn't be made by a 5th grader.

—Wugie


ITS FUNNY HOW ALL HOMOSEXUALS HAVE THE NAME WUGIE. NOT TO MENTION BALCKS AND JEW. MAKING GENERALIZATIONS IS KEWL RITE DUDE? IT MAKES ME FEEL SMART AND COOL JUST LIKE COLIN MY HERO BECAUSE HE THINKS HES SMART BUT HES REALY A HOMOSEXUAL PEDOFILE. LOLZ REPULIKKKANZ R DUMBZ!! LETS GO PLAY HACKYSACK!!!!

Farty Face

  

Stephan

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 9:12 PM

Hey Fartyface, you can blow me any time you'd like. I think everyone needs to stop this shitty argument about politics and come to a common revelation: Vote Socialist Party USA.

Stephan

  

Colin

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 9:16 PM

Double eff is DEFINITELY off his meds now.
The posting about eating a 13 year old boys' shit and now this one pretty much seals it for me.

Maybe it's too much of this >

Colin

  

ZT

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 9:17 PM

"If you want to live like a Republican, you should vote for the Democrats." -- Harry S. Truman

ZT

  

clodhopper

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 11:07 PM

Dog fucking...I'm surprised it took this many posts for someone to post some sort of picture involving beastiality. Usually in politicial debates such as this, the unnatural sex comes in a lot sooner.

clodhopper

  

Sine Qua Non

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 11:51 PM

The answer to the question over the data showing the age/ gender breakdowns relative to party affiliation are really explained by where people are in their lives. Producers (ie. employers and tax payers) trend Republican, as do homeowners. Home ownership in the "blue states is very low relative to "red" states. If someone is in school, low income, no income, Union, Acedemia, Government Work or in retirement, the are on the "take" and deprend on the government for existance, hence the affiliation towards the Democratic party. Liberalism only works in school so unless you go into teaching or work for the government you will grow out of it. It doens't work in the "real" world.

Sine Qua Non

  

gouranga3221

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 11:55 PM

That's a great point.
I am a productive, home owning, gun toting, car buying citizen, and I've voted republican both times I voted.
Rock on red states!

gouranga3221

  

GooseAss

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 1:07 AM

i'm definitely not a republican because their constant harping about christian bullshit and "family values" makes me want to throw myself on a sword, but at the same time the democrats turn me off because they are giant pussies. i think that's essentially where drew and adam are coming from and it's one of the things i like most about the show.

GooseAss

  

Farty Face

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 10:04 AM

"The Japs are inhuman monsters and deserve to be genoicided in nuclear fire" Harry S. Truman (a founding father of the institutional racisim present in the modern democratic party)

Farty Face

  

gouranga3221

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 12:08 PM

Do you want to explain that, FF, or are you just trolling again? (Trolling is my bet)

gouranga3221

  

Dark Laith

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 1:13 PM

I wasn't aware that he was capable of doing anything else.

Dark Laith

  

clodhopper

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 1:21 PM

I <3 Harry S. Truman. They named a college after him!

clodhopper

  

Farty Face

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 11:20 PM

HISTORY: THE BOOK. Look into it

Farty Face

  

gouranga3221

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 11:29 PM

Farty Face:
Gouranga's boner: the book, look into THAT.

FF, I think you own a ranch in Ojai.

gouranga3221

  

Colin

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 2:29 AM

Farty's comment about Truman only confirms what the rest of us already knew; that Democrats aren't perfect. It's odd that he would bring it up, as no one was claiming that they were... It's also odd that he overlooked Truman's other achievements. Oh, I don't know, maybe deciding to end the war with the least loss of life possible. A little thing called The Marshall Plan. Easily overlooked when pointing out something that tarnishes. What else would we expect from farty?

Keep calling me names. It really points you out as a well balanced individual. It only makes me laugh.

Homosexual pedophile is truly a work of art. What else have you got, you wordsmith?

Colin

  

Farty Face

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 9:56 AM

There really was no reason to use the Bomb on japan. The war could have been ended without it and without a land invasion. The use of the bomb was a political decision not a military/tactical one. Truman was thrust into president without being prepared for it, a "lame duck" president if you will.

The Marshel Plan was just another weapon used to fight the godless communists.

What are the other "good things" he did? I cant think of any.

Oh yeah he helped to keep the FDR era welfare programs in place and make sure they became permanent. Programs designed to fight a *DEPRESION* Now they are used even in boom times. GOOD GAME DUDE. ++Socialism

Farty Face

  

clodhopper

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 10:29 AM

And in what way could the war in Japan been ended without EITHER the atomic bomb OR a land invasion?

clodhopper

  

Colin

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 10:36 AM

How do you know what would have happened? You weren't alive then. You're weren't part of the Japanese War Cabinet. How can you use conjecture to make your point? What is true, is that the Japanese would rather have died than surrender. Look up the battle of Saipan.

Truman's comment about the Japanese was justified considering the Bataan incident and the Nanking invasion.

Colin

  

Colin

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 10:39 AM

Forgot to address the welfare programs.

Answer just one questions truthfully:

Are their people who can't work or feed themselves ONLY during depressions?

I'm talking about disabled, mentally ill, etc.

Colin

  

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Edited Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 11:30 AM

Lots of ways actually. Hey dont get me wrong, im kinda glad we used the bombs, but not for the false reasons that were made up by the administration (the same ones you are arguing). There were many ways to end the war with no invasion.

The legit reasons for the bomb that have nothing to do with a land invasion:

1) To scare the shit out of Stalin and give us an upper hand in the p