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Monday, September 20, 2004 at 7:11 PM What the hell? Did Drew's skunk smell get all the way out here too? Somebody who knows somebody, please, talk some sense into a Program Direcor in Western New England who will pick the show back up and not dick around and drop it a year or three later. Thanks. —WhatThe? |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 4:45 AM I called over and over again until I finally got through at 12:03 am last night. Some chick answered the phone and said that "we aren't doing Lovelines anymore" and that she "couldn't comment any further". I said, "What's the deal - are you just uninformed or do you know for a fact that the show has been pulled?" She said, "No, we're not airing the show anymore as of Monday night." Very bad times. No alt-rock stations out here either (Western Mass/CT) - maybe 106.9 WCCC (Active Rock) might take a chance on it. I'll do some research. —presidents04 |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 9:29 AM Good work P'04. Keep on the trail. And everyone else in the area, get out there and get those feelers out! —WhatThe? |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 12:52 PM
What the ? - did you hear Mike Kelley say anything on the air specifically about Loveline being cancelled on TIC? I didn't tune in right at 10 o'clock, when he might have made such a comment. Do you know of any particular reasons why Steve Salhany would have made this decision?
Also - I just emailed the PD at 106.9 WCCC:
"Michael, I wanted to express my views regarding the programming choices at 106.9 WCCC. WTIC-FM in Hartford just cancelled Loveline this week, and I am one of thousands of people in Western New England who listens to Loveline every single night. I think it's important to note that I don't switch stations between segments - I listen to the commercials too. Please, consider bringing Loveline to 106.9 WCCC.
Now would be a perfect time to introduce Loveline to 106.9 WCCC's
program schedule for the following reason: WTIC-FM in Hartford has been broadcasting Loveline for over one year, and there are now many new Loveline fans in the listening area, in addition to the many loyal long-time listeners spanning back as far as ten years ago. This could be an excellent opportunity to acquire many new fans who had previously listened to WTIC! I believe that Loveline would be a perfect fit in the 10pm-midnight
timeslot. How do you feel about this? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated." An hour later, Michael responded: "thanks for the e-mail. I'm familiar with Loveline and it's an
entertaining show. Our philosophy is "Live and Local". I understand
the Howard Stern Show is not local but he does have a history in the
area. We promote the fact that we are non-corporate and independent
and play lots of music after Howard with all our own jocks, all from
Connecticut. Loveline just doesn't fit in with that. Maybe there's
another station in the area that would be interested...good luck." I have also emailed Neil Mirsky (neal@lazer993.com), the PD of Lazer 99.3, located in East Longmeadow, MA. That station used to have an alt-rock format, but flipped four years ago to active rock.
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 4:57 PM Keep complaining. Our station moved loveline in place of a "local" show and so many people complained (plus the other show sucked) that they moved ll back on live. Then I emailed the PD to thank him for doing it. —stass |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 5:50 PM P'04 - I did not hear Mike Kelly say anything on air, but he always seemed to have a bug up his ass whenever you called to ask why the show wasn't on on a particular night. I called later that evening and I think I talked to Kevin Johnson. He was nice, but no help. Why would you want to explain anything to a listener? These are only the people that listen to your station, why cooperate with them? At least they could have done some stunt like the fake taking of a poll to see who did and didn't like the show (a la WAAF when they were cutting the show anyway.) Come on folks, let the audience know. Saves you calls and questions and you don't piss off as many listeners! I tried talking to a night shifter up at 99.3 WLZX on Monday but when I asked if they would pick up LoveLine, she gave some quick "no way in hell" kind of answer. I guess she wasn't a fan. Sounded angry. Where's her Dad? As for other local stations, the Clear Channel owned Hot AC, WHYN FM 93.1 seems to be a good fit, but don't know who's in charge as PD. WAQY Rock 102 would be another decent afiliate. A little more conservative, but not much going on at night there either. Haven't talked to anyone there either. WCCC has Salter and a semi-regular following at 10-12pm, but I do agree: would make sense. And Drew went to Ahmerst! If that's not local... Keepin on truckin'... nice work! —WhatThe? |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 6:42 PM I don't know about HYN, they are your "no-repeat workday" station. But then again they prolly have a different demographic at night. Rock102-maybe. I used to know someone who worked there about 6-7 years ago. A lot of help that does. Lazer seems like they might and the person you talked to was just some night-time bitch DJ on the rag. Am I correct to say they are in direct competition with 106.9 (and WAAF)? There's no other modern rock station in Western Mass...is there?
What about that pussy 100.9 station? "The valley's only quality rock" - my ass. So who's more pussy now? 105.9-WHCN or 100.9-WRNX? They were both trying pretty hard last time I was in Western Mass. —NJC |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 10:23 PM Here's a newsflash! How about you just download the mp3s and listen to the show commercial-free? That way you don't have to deal with the douche-bag DJs and radio stations at all! I used to listen to Loveline on the radio (first started back in '96 when Adam first signed on) and I don't get the show where I currently live. I just download the mp3s and it's so much better. I don't have to listen to commercials and I can start and stop the show whenever I want. Try it. —sprewell |
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 11:59 PM Thanks for the concern, Spre, but not exactly what we're shooting for. MP3's are great and have their place, but it's the local station broadcasting the show on a daily basis that is the what we're going for. Not always near a computer, out on the road, entertaining on short notice for 20 or so friends, that's when the live (or day delay) broadcast comes in handy. Plus, the most stations that carry the show, the more coverage and that leads to more internet streams and Bingo! MP3 are benefiting now too! Yea for everyone! NJC - WHYN is the same format and is in competition with WTIC, so it would seem like a smart move on their part. The girl at Lazer was a snot; an angry little lady. WZLX is in competition with WCCC and WAAF but I would suspect a distant third, (especially now that they fired the morning show guys). That's it for WM modern(?) rock stations. CT had one ,104.1 FM, but they fell victim to disco. Was a crap rock station, but ironically thay carried LoveLine before WTIC picked it up in 2001. And yes, 100.9 WRNX is the more pussy station. Makes Worcester's WSRS 96.1 look like it was owned by Ted Nugent. WHCN has slid, but not THAT far. Thanks for the info. Keep the Line open in Western Mass! —WhatThe? |
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 7:52 AM Small piece of news here: I did hear back from Jeannine Jersey (Assistant PD of WTIC). She wrote: "unfortunately, our contract is over with love line, so we won't be carrying the program anymore. thanks for writing in! jeannine jersey" Still haven't heard back from Neal Mirsky at Lazer 99.3. I'll call the business line later today. Neal is also the PD for 102.1 WAQY, but I don't think there's a chance there, since it's a classic rock format - the website displays pictures of Tom Petty, Elton John, and Stevie Nicks. I will also contact Max Krasny (mdkrasny@westwoodone.com) - he's one of the marketing VPs for Loveline, and he has responded to a few emails in the past. —presidents04 |
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 8:37 AM I admire everyone's efforts to contact the program directors and such, but it only seems to result in canned answers about hazy internal policies and foregone business decisions that are irreversible. Thanks for writing, now go away. So take a guerilla tack and start calling the larger station advertisers and BITCH and MOAN in a very articulate and passionate way how upset you are that Loveline has been removed from the airwaves of the station they dump countless advertising dollars. Mention how you'll never ever listen to that station again, and unfortunately miss all of the wonderful ad spots they run. Bolster your numbers, create some false petitions, whatever- just come across as a valued customer about to be lost and not a typical Loveline caller. Having the advertisers raise a stink will be the most effective way of altering any media's content.
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 9:30 AM Magnificent Bastard - that's really a good idea. I'll listen for some 'TIC advertisers and make telephone calls to their corporate offices. Potentially good news that just came in - within the past hour, I heard back from Neal Mirsky, the PD at Lazer 99.3. He writes: "Thanks for your input regarding Loveline. It certainly is an option worth considering. While my number one priority at this time is putting together a new morning show for Lazer (to replace our recently-departed morning show), I will look into this possibility. Aside from gathering information on the cost, demographic appeal and ratings history of the program I certainly am curious as to why WTIC-FM dropped the show. Rest assured that I will examine this option seriously.
Thanks again for your input.
All the best,
Neal Mirsky
Program Director
WLZX - Lazer 99.3"
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 12:07 PM
Edited Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 12:08 PM That last post sounds like possible good news. I just can't understand this quote from a couple posts up: "unfortunately, our contract is over with love line, so we won't be carrying the program anymore" ... if the contract is over, isn't that a good time to maybe sign a new contract?? I mean, if you're really serious about it being unfortunate... —puck71 |
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 4:07 PM As always P'04, good work! —WhatThe? |
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Thursday, September 23, 2004 at 12:12 AM P'04 - I got the same response today from WTIC. Unfortunately, our contract with LoveLine expired, and we aren't going to renew it. I wish I had better news for you. However, we do appreciate the time you took to write in, and the time you spent listening over the years. Thanks,
Jeannine Jersey
Assistant Program Director/Music Director - 96.5 TIC
10 Executive Drive, Farmington, CT 06032
desk 860-284-9333 fax 860-677-8264
www.965tic.com Looks like they have made up their mind. The WZLX/Mirsky path does sound interesting though. Keepin the Love on the Line... —WhatThe? |
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Thursday, September 23, 2004 at 5:31 AM So what is it now, the only new england station that carries Loveline is in White River Jct., VT right? Which by the way is in the middle of nowhere —ArtEllis |
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Thursday, September 23, 2004 at 6:10 AM Why do they keep saying it's so unfortunate...they obviously don't think it's TOO unfortunate or they would have renewed the contract! —puck71 |
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Friday, September 24, 2004 at 4:24 AM You guys say WZLX, do you mean WLZX? ZLX is 100.7 (i think) in Boston, a classic rock 102.1-esque station. I think 99.3 is WLZX-Just want to clarify. In Worcester there is 100.1 The Fox (WWFX) which is a classic rock-turned modern rock station a few years ago. I can shoot them off an email. They would be in competition with WAAF.
Spreewell, we are well aware of the nightly mp3's. In fact, a select few of us work pretty hard behind the scenes to make them available to all of you. Hardly a newsflash. Thanks for the tip, but the fact remains that we need a station that will carry it on-air around here. I used to listen on Rock101 back in the day, and before that 104.1 (WBCN-Boston). More recently 96.5 was a nice one for me, as I would often drive back to central mass from western mass on sunday nights and I could carry it all the way into Worcester. Keep up the good work everyone and MB's idea about the advertisers has merit! Let's try it! WhatThe?- When did MRQ become disco? What the hell is HAPPENING out there!?! —NJC |
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Friday, September 24, 2004 at 7:56 AM NJC - You're right! 99.3 FM is WLZX. I didn't even realize what I was typing. Good call! When did MRQ change formats (again)? They were broadcasting the Dee Snider morning show for a while, but then some radio genius decided to drop him and pick up Bubba the Dung-Sponge. Who the hell in New Englang is gonna care/relate to hies Howard rip-off/goober antics? I listened to both and that was clearly the wrong way to go. So (now I am guessing here) the station changed formats within the following year. May have had something to do with Bubba fines from the FCC, or not, but here didn't stick around these parts for long. Then came HOT 93.7 about 2002, 2003? Not too long ago. It is CT, a little more of the urban crowd, even though the station is located in the wicked white town of Farmington. The station as a whole just sems to not be taking their meds. All over the place for the last ten years. Keep the Love on the dial and thanks for all you do... this Bud's for you. —WhatThe? |
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Friday, September 24, 2004 at 9:51 PM What am I, high?!?! Looks like I mixed up again and spliced two radio stories together. WMRQ 104.1 is still a modern rock station, butnot anything to write home about. All the DEE/Bubba stuff was right but they are out of Waterbury, CT, not Farmington, CT. WZMX HOT 93.7, is out of Farmginton, CT. If you ever wonder where the white kids that listen to rap/hip hop and think they're the next Eminem come from, maybe here. This station wasn't always urban, but they have changed formats a bunch in the last decade.
Still remains crappy. Sorry for the confusion. Wanted to prevent any correction posts before they need to be posted. Don't need extra bicker/nit picking just 'cause I'm not typing straight. So yeah, thanks for the moment and now back to Saving the Endangered LoveLine in it's Western New England habitat. —WhatThe? |
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Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 6:51 PM OMG...I am a long-time listener and I have never even called and I am outraged!! I listend to it every night!! We should all take action on BM's idea. Until then, does anyone know where to get these Mp3s you talk about?? —dawn_fayhe |
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Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 7:27 PM Bad times in hartford. we have got to get loveline back on the air. going through serious withdrawls. I don't know if I can take it any more. It is still on in portsmouth NH on 100.3, but that does no good to those of us who are in the hartford area between 10 and 12. let's break it down! get a hand in! Shake your ass you fat C! —oh-for |
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Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 9:31 PM Chiming in here... I too was SHOCKED when Loveline failed to appear on WTIC this past week. On Wednesday I put in a call to Steve Salheny, Program Director at WTIC. He called back and allowed me to express my disappointment in the cancellation of Loveline. He told me that TIC's contract with Loveline "had expired" and that there were "contractual issues" with the program. He said he couldn't say any more about it. These things, we all know, usually revolve around MONEY. So my INTERPRETATION of his statement (note: this is just an opinion, I'm not spreading heresay) is that either the cost of the program has increased and is no longer in WTIC's budget, or, perhaps related, maybe WTIC wanted more local advertising time during the breaks but the contractual structure is inflexible on that point. (Actually, when you think about it, most of those stupid PSA's could/should be liquidated in favor of local advertising, which would make the show more profitable for the local stations; I know programmers are required to have a certain percentage of public interest programming, but the percentage of break time dedicated to PSAs during Loveline seems VERY high -- who does that really SERVE?!) I told Salheny I was SHOCKED that they would cancel the show, guessing that it did very well in its time slot. His reply: "Actually, it hasn't done that well for us in the ratings." My interpretation of that (based mostly on the tone of his voice) was that he was spinning the truth to not piss off a loyal listener. I would love to see the Arbitron ratings for that timeslot in the Greater Hartford market. Someone mentioned 102.7 (WAQY). I think that'd be a good new home. What about WPLR (99.1)? They're like a WCCC. Can you get 99.1 from the Springfield area? Carry on the fight, all. —NotHerbert |
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Sunday, September 26, 2004 at 5:40 PM I just called in tonight before reading all this and I got the whole "this contract is up." Well all of us kids in Simsbury will no long learn about our precious pot and alcohol and sex in the farmhouses. —Randy |
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Monday, September 27, 2004 at 2:05 PM *E-mail from today* Unfortunately, WTIC's contract with Love Line has ended, and we've decided not to renew it. We are going to try something new at night in the next month or so. Thanks for listening, and thanks for writing in! Thanks,
Jeannine Jersey
Assistant Program Director/Music Director - 96.5 TIC
10 Executive Drive, Farmington, CT 06032
desk 860-284-9333 fax 860-677-8264
www.965tic.com --- now all i can say is what kind of radio gets signals all the way from northern New England??? :( —dawn_fayhe |
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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 at 12:40 AM Did you all hear that!?! If WTIC is "trying something" in the next few months, LoveLine may not be out of their picture just yet! If this amazing new show/feature/crap replacment doesn't fare as well (especially with the advertisers during the show) WTIC's only reasonable option may ne to bring back the 'Line! Now, this is all a BIG if, but if no one else picks it up, this could be our next line of action. WTIC does have one of the best FM rnges around so having the LoveLine on their signal is a benefit for many. So every one keep your eyes and ears open, your Drew-like passion strong and keep at doing what your doing best. Keepin' the Love alive... —WhatThe? |
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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 at 12:17 PM OMG!!! i cant even tell you who pised off i have been this past week!!! today, about 10 minutes ago actually, i sent them an email
"96.5 TIC-
Hi, my name's Taylor and I have a complaint. Recently, about a week ago, I turned on the radio at 10 PM to listen to my favorite radio show ever, Loveline, and let me tell you, I was very disapointed it was not on. I figured there might have been a problem at the studio or something, so I just decided to see about the next day. Again, it was not on. It has been a little over a week now that you have not aired Loveline, and I think the other listeners and I deserve an explanation. Please contact me at the email address above, or just put Loveline back on, because it really is a great show. In fact, it is because of Loveline that i started listening to your radio station at other times, I have even told my friends that you play good music and Loveline, but now, I have banned my house from this radio station, as well as spread the word to my friends. So if you want this audience to listen to your radio station again, (and there IS quite a few people that I have told), then i suggest you contact me with an explanation, or just please put Loveline back on your radio station at the regular time and days. Please consider this letter, thank you for reading. Sincerely,
Taylor Klein" BY THE WAY- i totally lied about listening to the station at other times than 10-12 because i hate their boring music, and i just told my friends loveline fucking ROCKS and they should listen- and lots of them have- but its true i refuse to listen to that station AT ALL
and i know the letter's long lol but i wanted to sound uhm "proper?" if u can call it that, but im still awaiting a reply, hopefully it will be something other than the contract shit..but thank you to EVERYONE for helping out you guys are awesome- a huge help! for the record, 104.1 is now a rap station, unfortunately. but hey any station works for me but please anyone else who can, please help get loveline back on the air!! :-D —crAze 4 AdAm |
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Friday, October 1, 2004 at 5:10 PM Hey Taylor, I'm around your age too so I know what ur goin through. BTW im a boy my names not Dawn ha —dawn_fayhe |
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Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 9:10 AM hey guys! it's jeannine from WTIC. i know you are bummed about loveline coming off the air...but what steve and i have told you is the truth. our contract IS over, and we are going to try something NEW (not love line). we really didn't get a lot of listeners through carrying love line, although the ones we did have (like YOU!) were very passionate about the show. in the future, the best way to find out information about the show is to contact westwood one directly...they are the syndicators of the show. their website is www.westwoodone.com. take care,
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Edited Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 10:13 AM Anybody know anything about radio engineering? Seems like you could pirate the transmission if you had the equipment to do it... http://www.westwoodone.com/talk_loveline_tech.htm Here is the technical format for “Loveline”. This program airs in stereo on StarGuide channel pair 07/08 Sunday through Thursday from 10:00 pm to 12:00 Midnight Pacific Time (1:00 am to 3:00 am ET Monday through Friday). Repeats of the previous day's program air on the same channel pair each Sunday through Thursday at 10:00 pm to 12:00 Midnight Eastern Time (7:00 pm to 9:00 pm PT), with theThursday 10:00 pm PT edition being repeated at 10:00 pm ET on Sunday. The program can be automated through use of the WW1 "Mutualert" tone system. All in-program Station Commercial Positions will be covered by the network with repeated network inventory and/or public service announcements. Elements marked below with a “ > “ are firm times; all other times listed are approximate and the elements will float with content.
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Edited Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 12:12 PM I'm thinking the Starguide reciever would kind of work like it would if you bought XM satt. radio hardware, it just doesn't work out of the box, you have to activate it and I havn't heard of any pirated XM stuff yet. Also you need a downlink satt. dish to recieve the feed so it would coast a lot of money. Also the output on the reciver is like a serial plug, so it would be like pins 10-15 for stereo, sub-audio, etc. But I think it could be possible, im sure theres a way, maybe even using a regular direct tv dish, etc. All we would need would be one person to do it and distrubte the shows or stream it. —24/7KROQ |
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Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 2:05 PM Hmmmmm, that seems so much easier than listening over the internet or downloading the episodes everyday. I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner. —Juanus |
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Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 10:48 PM This topic has been pretty thoroughly discussed in the past a few times, always with the same result: no one has the equipment or knowhow to pirate the feed... anyway, if you get it working, I (and others) would be very interested in how it can be done. —Kevin U. |
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Sunday, October 10, 2004 at 9:06 AM
Edited Sunday, October 10, 2004 at 9:19 AM Got some interesting links having to do with the Starguide reciever, might help understand the scale of setting one up for personal use. http://www.abcsatelliteservices.com/ndpinfo.asp http://www.radioamerica.org/starquideQuestionProgram.html http://www.libertybroadcasting.com/contact/FAQ.htm http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OUK/is_1_9/ai_101517633 http://beradio.com/mag/radio_satellites_radio_always/ http://www.broadcast.net/pipermail/broadcast/2001-March/151860.html http://www.forthepeople.org/newpage6.htm
Actual price of reciever in the above link There are so many more websites containing info on the Starguide Reciever and related. —24/7KROQ |
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Sunday, October 10, 2004 at 6:05 PM Now I understand the eagerness and motivation to try and pirate the show, but isn't that a little like climbing the mountain by going straight up through the middle? Radio stations all across America and Canada drop and pick up shows all the time. Getting another station to pick up Loveline seems like a much easier and more productive way to handle the situation. And, it's not illegal! If there weren't any other way to get the show, pirating might seem worth a shot but that just doesn't look like the way to go at this point. Someday, maybe... Jeannine, thanks for the post. The info about contacting Westwood One is helpful, but WTIC was the station sending the show out in the area. Fans have a point in contacting WTIC to find out what happened: 1.) Not a lot of info was put out over the air about the show's depature. The station/djs had a habit of missing broadcasts, coming in late to the feed or not just playing that night's broadcast. There was an overall feel of "we really don't care about this program" and the listeners could hear that loud and clear. 2.) If WTIC had broadcast the show for the last three years and then just dropped it, people are going to want to know if it was Loveline or WTIC. Since it was the station, shouldn't they hear the feedback from the fans about shows the put on the air? Granted, many are "Dude, where the f***'s LoveLines?", but there are true fans of the show as well. WTIC reaches a wide range of cities, towns and New England areas (NY too). I'm sure that many fans don't speak up but were dissapointed when the broadcst stopped. These message boards are a small, but far reaching way for those who have stuff to contribute can work together. I mean, we got you to post, so the show must have some effect on your audience. If it's no show, no buzz, no questions, no Jeannine, then I can see how it wasn't popular. But Thanks agin for taking the time, and please reconsider (even if something NEW is coming). —WhatThe? |
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Sunday, October 10, 2004 at 10:28 PM In response to the "why hijack the satellite feed" question... It would provide a very reliable source of high quality shows to record and it would take out the middleman, eliminating the annoying things stations around the country do, like cut into the show late, cut off the end segment, etc. Although, if you did get it to work, I'm not sure it would justify the work and cost it took you to get there. Oh yeah... and my arch nemesis, static, would no longer be an issue. —Kevin U. |
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Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 1:49 PM Jeannine, I'm surprised that you actually posted here. 2 quick things: 1) Thanks for taking the time to post
2) You must have had a reason for posting. Concern for the general welfare of loyal Loveline listeners? Hmmm...probably not. In any case, we would all be happy to see WTIC re-acquire Loveline after your NEW show tanks. By the way, we did notice that you ran that "Music News Update" with Switchfoot's Jonathan Foreman every single night for about four months ("We're passionate about what we do. For a lot of people, that passion is contagious...There's no tricks up our sleeve...It's just three chords and the truth...and that's maybe something that's a little bit rare these days.") Anybody else rolling their eyes right now? Clearly, this does not provide the greatest indication that the radio station stands behind its programming content.
Regarding MB's idea to make calls to 'TIC advertisers - it might be best to wait until this "NEW" show arrives in the 10-12 timeslot, and then bombard those particular companies with phone calls ("The new 'TIC night-time show sucks...What happened to Loveline...I used to hear your spots all the time during Loveline, & I subsequently began purchasing your products, but now I feel compelled to..." etc.) We could post the company contact info here, and anyone willing to make a few calls or send a few emails could easily join the fray.
OK, elsewhere - I did hear back today from Todd Alan, who took over for Westwood One Talk Programming VP Roy Dvorkin after his recent departure. I had specifically mentioned that PD Neal Mirsky (WLZX Lazer 99.3) had recently expressed interest in Loveline: "Thanks for the information. I will have my staff check into the opportunity.
Best Regards,
Todd"
Other Westwood One contact info:
Affiliate Sales VP Max Krasny has a new email address. He can now be reached at max_krasny@westwoodone.com. Ad Sales VP Peter Kosann can be reached at Peter_Kosann@westwoodone.com.
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Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 6:26 PM Thanks for the backup, P'04 and good work (and suggestions) as always. Keep it up! —WhatThe? |
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Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 7:01 PM Its off in memphis as well. The comment from 93x was that Infinity didn't renew the contract and loveline lost 2/3rds of their listening area because of it. Anyone else hear this? —firejust |
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Tuesday, January 25, 2005 at 7:20 AM has anyone contacted westwood one? i cant believe there isnt a single radio station in connecticut, mass or rhode island that wouldn't be interested. im hoping that station on long island (107.1)comes in here in eastern ct. this is crazy. —brl572 |
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Tuesday, January 25, 2005 at 7:04 PM I am in Southern CT and haven't heard that station come in. :( —dawn_fayhe |
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Wednesday, January 26, 2005 at 10:42 PM New England is treating Loveline like the plaugue. Everyone except Woodstock, VT. Out of all the staion in the six states in the Northeast, one station is running the show. And Vermont of all places!! Not even in their largest city/town!!! C'mon Program Directors, when did you all get mad cow disease? How tough would it be to tell the 7 - 12pm shift stoner to take two hours off a night for a program that despite what your reports tell you, people enjoy?
And has anyone heard the great new replacement that 96.5 WTIC chose to put in Loveline's old spot? I don't listen to the station anymore since they dropped the show, but Jeanine Jersey said to listen for some kind of new programming in LL's place. (crickets...) Still waiting to be blown over. But let me venture a guess... Some kind of Way Back 80's type show that they pound into your head just about every chance time that there is some space to fill and have that smarmy Mike Kelly tell me that he'll catch me tomorrow night?
Please, Please, Please, take some of that money that you are spending on that yuk-yuk radio hack Jenny Craig in the AM and bring Loveline back. If I want to laugh I don't need the human laugh-tracks like they have on the morning show to tell me when. I'll do it when I hear something funny, and it's been since last September since that has happened on your station. Do the right thing and bring back an original show that people like.
But enough open-letter time to 96.5. Oh yeah, nickvelk, the New Hampshire station WHEB 100.3 doesn't carry the show anymore. I could make a joke here, but I'm pooped. Just wanted to help update. —WhatThe? |
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Wednesday, January 26, 2005 at 10:48 PM It's been a while since we've heard any news about the show in N.E. Had to purge. —WhatThe? |
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dawn_fayhe |
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Friday, January 28, 2005 at 7:24 PM THIS is the replacement for Loveline: http://965tic.com/thejocks/mike.shtml —dawn_fayhe |
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 7:56 AM Gary Craig is an ass... but his dirty jokes r funny and it's easy to get in when u call kudos for bringing up the subject again. and have u tried online radio Streams? I am planning on doing it tomorrow (sunday on this website: "http://www.cities97.com/tunein.html" only problem is they claim they have periods of dead air for their commercials because they are not allowed to play 'em but it should be cool hearing it live again.
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 10:44 AM Shaggy2Dope = AbsolutCarib? Or are they just grammatical alter-egos? —nvgoddess |
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 11:15 AM Shaggy2Dope = AbsolutCarib? Or are they just grammatical alter-egos? What? A person using multiple aliases? How duplicitious. —greymatters |
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dawn_fayhe |
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 12:58 PM I have and I only listen for the first hour before I start to doze off. It sucks that I cant even listen with my clock AM/FM radio in bed. —dawn_fayhe |
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Shaggy2Dope |
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 2:29 PM I am thoroughly honored by a reference to someone who has the same (writing) style as I do. Honestly. —Shaggy2Dope |
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 8:27 PM I try to get my route on par with listening to loveline, and currently drive from the boson area to hartford, and of course, want to kill myself right now. fortunately, our show is back on 101.1 out of the great city of Manchester, NH which you can pick up just about as far away as the mass/conn border on 84. good times continues —oh-for |
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Monday, January 31, 2005 at 11:10 AM Thanks for the update oh-for! That takes care of Central MA and NH, but what about the rest of NE? If your in CT, you're screwed! RI? Sorry. ME and Western MA, maybe with a super antenna, but till then, it's download time. Good job gumshoes! —WhatThe? |
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Monday, January 31, 2005 at 11:11 AM and yes, Gary Craig is an radio-ass. —WhatThe? |
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