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Dark Laith

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Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 2:24 PM

Adam's brought up the idea of most people in jail being affiliated with a mainstream religion. It's an intriguing idea, but I don't know any actual statistics on such a thing. Does anyone know where to find statistics like those? Or, does anyone actually know statistics like those (preferably specific ones, such as how many people in for violent crimes, or how many people on death row, etc.)?

Dark Laith

  

joe bloggs

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Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 8:38 PM

Most of the data i have seen suggests that a significant portion of american inmates do not consider themselves to be a part of a specific religion.
for example:
http://www.doc.state.mn.us/publications/pdf/state%20of%20the%20prison.pdf
(See page 6)
http://www.phila.gov/prisons/statistics/pdfs/FY02_population_stats.pdf
(See page 9)
There is, however, suprisingly sparse data on inmates' religious affiliation.
check this out too:
http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/johnson.html

joe bloggs

  

grecko

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Sunday, July 25, 2004 at 9:38 AM

I found this article, which quotes a Federal Bureau of Prisons study on the religious affiliations of inmates. It seems that we atheists constitute only 0.2 percent of the prison population but 8 to 16 percent of the general population. In other words, we are grossly underrepresented in the big house. Quelle surprise!


grecko

  

piesore

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Sunday, July 25, 2004 at 11:12 AM

Could that have anything to do with people becoming more religious because of prision?

piesore

  

goodtimes3

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Sunday, July 25, 2004 at 11:35 AM

no, we just have half a mind, so we can get away with it and/or lower sentances

goodtimes3

  

joe bloggs

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Sunday, July 25, 2004 at 10:36 PM
Edited Sunday, July 25, 2004 at 10:36 PM

I was afraid someone would site that article.
It appears to be totally bogus.
I have been unable to find a single example of a Department of Justice or Bureau of Prisons publication which describes religious preferences/affiliations of prisoners. Not even the research questionaires given to inmates asked those questions.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pubalp2.htm
If someone can authenticate the supposed research on the holysmoke page, please let me know.

In any case, it is important to remember that it is difficult to get clear answers on these questions, since there are many important factors. Such as, whether the inmates are asked the questions when they first arrive at the prison, or later during their terms. Also, how do you define religious?
It's also not so clear what the data is on the general public, but this study was a pretty good start:
http://www.gc.cuny.edu/studies/key_findings.htm

joe bloggs

  

snuffy

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Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 1:30 AM

I've personally known two serial killers (went to high school with them)...and both of them were regular churchgoers from devout Christian families. On the other hand, my convict uncle (six years in San Quentin for armed robbery) was a staunch atheist and a respected avant-garde poet. Make of that what you will.

snuffy

  

Brodieman

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Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 4:36 AM

I dont know about any kind of stats on anything i find it harder and harder to belive anything when it comes to stats. 50,000 people die a year of 2nd had smoke if you ask truth.com people. now i know maybe i just dont see it however it just seems like a very wrong stat. I dont know of one person who has been killed by 2nd hand smoke but i do know people who have died in a car accident. now maybe it just worked out that way but they would have me belive that more people die from 2nd hand smoke than car accidents and like 7 other things. i dont think gettin stats on who belives in god would be something that would be easy to get at all. God is something people find when they want too and something they fall into and out of. it would be hard to figure out too because very few people in general dont belive in some kind of god so like six people in every jail would prob but the numbers over for people who dont belive in god.

Brodieman

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