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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 12:29 AM As I'm sure some of you have noticed, the journal has fallen further and further behind. I no longer have time to listen to the show every night, much less maintain a log about it. Therefore, regrettably, I have decided that the journal will no longer be updated. Hopefully, I will find time on the weekends to collect my remaining notes and finish it through the end of May, but that will be the end. And now, if you will all excuse me, I have to get some precious sleep. I'll be getting up at 5 am to commute to Santa Monica ("Santa Monica: 68... Pasadena: 78... Hollywood: 83... Adam's house: 102... blah blah blah")... It will only take about an hour and a half to get there -- a mere 25 miles away. (Goddamn L.A. traffic.) And if that damn bird outside my apartment doesn't shut up soon, I'm going to get an air rifle. (It only chirps at night.) But, good times. —Silent Virgin |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 7:42 AM im sure theres people that would help out with the journal. although,ive never read any of them, if some people do im sure it would be worth keeping alive. —superhew |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 10:52 AM
Edited Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 11:33 AM The journal could be a great feature, if done right. One of the main reasons I come to this site daily is to find out if the previous night's show is worth downloading. The forum threads haven't been an ideal place to get that info but the journal could be. You could set up a wiki that the regular listeners could edit in order to describe the show. For example, you could have a list of callers (hick girl can't get off, guy has shiny spots on dick) and Adam rants (cops in the wrong places, can't criticize ethnic groups, hawaiians suck) for every show, that would be generated by the listeners. I would even be willing to contribute money to help make this happen as it's a service I would use frequently. Note that I'm co-opting the journal to fit my needs, rather than the occasional transcripts and links it has now. I see it more as a show database. —sprewell |
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puck71 |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 12:38 PM The Loveline Database does at least some of that already: http://lldb.triggersite.com/ —puck71 |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 1:24 PM I took a look at the loveline database and after randomly sampling the episodes listed found that most did not have a summary written. Also, the ones written were inadequate for my purposes. I AM suggesting something similar, but done in a wiki with a better structure superimposed (see my suggestion above). —sprewell |
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superhew |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 1:31 PM ok so put a thing like that on your own server, then give us a link. —superhew |
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superhew |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 1:33 PM by the way, i would definately post on something like that, because i listen every night, and now that schools out i have nothing better to do. —superhew |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 1:51 PM Why put it on my own server when this is the ideal place for it? Superhew's last post proves this. Anyway, saying I'd pay for it is entirely equivalent. —sprewell |
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superhew |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 1:57 PM
Edited Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 1:57 PM i agree, it would be ideal for this site, but as for short term goes, if you really wanted something up now, you should put something on your own server. then, once you work something out with SV, you can just link it to your server, or move it all over to this one. —superhew |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 2:34 PM I have a feeling that the freedom Wiki allows would turn any attempts at creating a Loveline journal using it into a flaming pile of garbage. Just think what would happen if we were all allowed to edit other people's posts in here... —Jeremy |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 5:04 PM Some of you guys could contact Trig to possibly be summary/review writers for the LLDB. I think he's open to having more people contribute them, but you'd have to talk to him. —puck71 |
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Trig |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 5:18 PM I'd be ecstatic :-) The more the merrier. Maybe I'm a purist. I really LIKE Wikipedia, but it seems kinda cluttered for what we're talking about. Kinda like how SV could have downloaded some PHP board, but instead wrote her own -- way better :) No extras, original, total control, exactly what SV wanted. You oughtta check out ZT's submissions. He goes into CRAZY detail. Should probably add a section for that kind of work, but I don't wanna kill momentum on anything, just go with the flow. Whatever works :) (I'll quit babbling) —Trig |
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Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 6:25 PM I'd love to see a Loveline journal, preferrably modeled after Marksfriggin.com —dr ipod |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 3:58 AM
Edited Friday, June 11, 2004 at 4:00 AM "I'd love to see a Loveline journal, preferrably modeled after Marksfriggin.com" —dr ipod ipod, why don't you just do it? HowardStern.com now features a summary of the day though it is not as detailed yet would be sufficient here. During the two hours Loveline is on there isn't that much going on different from night to night. Unless you plan on quoting verbatum, summarizing this amounts to relatively little space on paper. Stern is 4 hours long and the sky is the limit on subject matter and the studio is full of people (a minimum of 5) contributing. Let me guess, SV, you're spending your time posting under assorted member names so you don't have time to listen to Loveline ;-) —Adam's Crows |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 11:23 AM I never said I ruled out the idea of doing it myself. However I don't have webspace, and my HTML skills are old and dusty. —dr ipod |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 4:51 PM You don't need web space or HTML skill. Just post threads like you post in this forum. Silent Virgin can create a section of the forum where the daily show descriptions are posted. Everyone can contribute. The only thing that will take ongoing effort from SV is clearing out the opinions and comments people will leave either by mistake or because they are too stupid to follow the format. It is inevitable some people will look at it and think it is just like the regular forum where you post your comments. Maybe it can be separated and also have a different look. At least change the background color and don't use those shots of the studio. Make it difficult to confuse the forum with the journal. —Cracked |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 5:14 PM Wikipedia is one of my favorite websites. I think a wiki would be ideal because we could all contribute to the summary. Wikis have an admin functionality and you can revert pages if defaced. For example, other contributors could edit ZT's submissions to make them more readable or to conform to a standard- ZT's summaries range from one quick paragraph to twenty. As for a possible standard, I would like times when the bits start so I can go directly to them. For example, R = Rant or discussion C = phone Call
10:30 R - Adam talks about his dick
15:20 R - Drew agrees that Adam is huge
16:20 C - Adam and Drew agree on a bogus call Of course, it would end up being approximate as different recordings would shift the bits' timing around but close is better than nothing. Also, Wikis have a talk page functionality where consensus for a summary standard could be hashed out. As for finding people who're willing to do this, I know I would do this for the shows I listen to. It doesn't really matter whose website actually implements this, Trig's or Silent Virgin's, but I think the wiki would foster more collaboration (think network effect). I think Cracked is on the right track but a wiki would be much more readable than what he suggests (Maybe SV can create a rudimentary wiki by just creating an all-user-editable forum using her software?). I suppose it all hinges on how time-consuming it would be for her to install and configure the wiki software. As I said before, I would donate money if she got it up and running. —sprewell |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 5:18 PM That's a good point Cracked. I know that I, for one, hate to see the journal fall by the wayside, 'cause it's been such a great source for figuring out stuff like "You remember that one night when that girl said that one thing and Adam was like, blah blah blah?" -- The journal always answered questions that one could never intuit from a show title. Last night's show was a perfect example -- Anderson mentioned that it was his 5 year anniversary and Adam talked about his very first show and how he felt uncomfortable interviewing Psycho Mike-o. But last night's show will inevitable just read "Alanis Morrisette" in many different archives. I really like the journal. —steve |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 8:16 PM What the hell are you talking about? —Jeremy |
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superhew |
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 8:47 PM heres the pictures of his house you were looking for- 
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Friday, June 11, 2004 at 9:01 PM
Edited Friday, June 11, 2004 at 9:03 PM Sprewell is quickly becoming my biggest fan. I would be a little offended if someone edited my lldb entries, other than to fix grammar, spelling, or quotation errors. The reason why I put so much time it to them, is that I would like to see the lldb approximate something like drdrew.com. Someone could search for a specific topic -- like "adderall", and find out what drew or bruce or alter or whoever said about the consequences of its use, etc. The more there is to search for, the better chance there is that someone can at least find what show to listen to, to get more information. The other details I try to pay attention to are things that are, are interesting about the show, or the guests, and stuff like that. I try not to include information that you could get if you listened to say, a weeks work of shows. For instance, I wouldn't note anything about the Nth 15 year old girl who calls up asking about why she can't orgasm with her 27 year old boyfriend. —ZT |
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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 1:55 PM Steve, what're you talking about? The journal is so sparse right now that there's almost no chance that it would fill in those details you ask for. I like the journal as it exists, because it highlights some good stuff, but it certainly doesn't fulfill your need. As for ZT, your content would be edited but only to add more stuff, correct mistakes, or make it fit a standard. Some of your summaries are way too long and might need to be snipped a little bit. That said, I can't imagine too many posts being shortened... it'll probably just be the more the merrier. I suppose the journal could be used as a loveline encyclopedia, as ZT suggests, but that depends on the contributors and how much effort they want to put into it. I think a wiki would be a good way for all of us to collaborate on this and make it a well-built show database. Like I said before, it doesn't matter who does it, Trig or SV. That said, any chance either of you are working on it? —sprewell |
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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 3:17 PM Trig, I just tried to email you but got the following errors: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>>trig's email address>
(reason: 554 Message could not be sent due to inappropriate content) ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to trig's domain.: >>>>>> DATA
<<< 554 Message could not be sent due to inappropriate content
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Yes, I edited your email address and domain out from the message above. I tried sending you a message through this forum instead. Let me know if you get it. —sprewell |
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Trig |
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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 4:04 PM Doh, sorry man :) The idiot who setup the mail filter's a moron. Awww wait... :-( —Trig |
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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 5:28 PM Sprewell: Just recently I thought, "When was that show where Adam listed his yearly earnings on the air?" I flipped through the journal and found a very detailed account on Sunday, May 5, 2002. That's what I was referring to. If there had been no journal, I wouldn't have known that without starting a thread asking, "Does anybody remember such and such?" For me, the journal has magically had exactly what I need, and hence, refer to it as "valuable". —steve |
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NJC |
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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 7:33 PM I'm a big fan of making everything searchable. Journals, The Forum, Files--Everything.
Then even this very conversation could someday be "valuable" too.
I've used Cold Fusion's Verity search engine with good results. I have not used the new version, but I'll look into it. —NJC |
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ZT |
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Friday, June 18, 2004 at 6:40 PM Hey sprewell, give me your address and I'll send you out a "ZT windbreaker." —ZT |
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sprewell |
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Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:32 PM Hold on, ZT, I'm not done with you yet... —sprewell |
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ZT |
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Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:38 PM don't be a tease. —ZT |
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Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 6:36 AM ha trig is always hard on himself it seems :( —sneedo |
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ZT |
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Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 12:43 AM Hey SV - I really did like the Journal. But, if you can't find the time to keep up with it, I would love it if you kept working on the clips section. I've listened to them all several times, and I think you did a great job on them, espeically the profound section. —ZT |
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