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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 6:31 PM I was wondering if there are any good MP3 shorteners out there. I want to be able to fit some of these loveline episodes onto a 80 min cd. I have tried MP3 trimmer, but so far it's way to complicated. —Ukerz |
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Jeremy |
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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 7:25 PM MP3 Trimmer is a Mac program, so you're looking for a different Mac program, correct? I've never used MP3 Trimmer before, but from looking at it for a couple minutes, it seems extremely easy and straight forward. You set an IN-Point and an OUT-Point, and then you save the file. I don't see how much easier it could possibly be. —Jeremy |
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superhew |
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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 7:32 PM get musicmatch, its what i use to rip cds and stuff. you can change bit rates of the files so they are smaller, but if you actually want to cut out commercials and stuff, i use cakewalk home studio. its an easy program that allows you to cut out certain parts of audio files. —superhew |
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dr ipod |
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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 7:38 PM There are plenty of places to get daily posts of commercial free edits. However if you're trying to fit it as audio on an 80minute CDR you will end up cutting actual show, because the show runs 90 minutes or so commercial free. If you cut every single bumper you might be around 87minutes. The best way to back up your MP3s is to burn them as data. On a 700mb CDR you could fit a whole month's worth, if not 2 or 3. I'd highly recommend an MP3 player if youre just looking to bring the shows wiht you on the go. I got my Ipod and it changed my life. I used to burn a ton of CDs, and I'd waste so much time cutting up audio files and I'd sacrifice tracks for time too much. I just got a 40gb Ipod and seriously I don't think I've bought CDRs since. —dr ipod |
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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 10:00 PM If you chop the commericals out, it gets a little closer to 80 minutes. Try Audacity, its free, as in free speech. Rose tints my world, keeps me safe from my trouble and pain. —ZT |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 3:08 AM Google for Aumpel. What it does is it changes the bit rate of an mp3 file and thus, shortens the file size. Best of all, it's FREE!!! I use it everytime. Like, almost all of Kevin U.'s mp3s are over 40mb in size because the bitrate is I think set to 128kbs. By reducing the bitrate to say, 24 (and adjusting a few setting like stereo, variable bit rate to 4, making the output file a bit higher quality/same quality as the much higher bit rate file you want to convert, etc.), you could reduce the original size of 40mb to somewhere around 15-17mb. Basically, if you use the 24kbs bit rate setting, ANY mp3 of ANY size that you want to convert/reduce, you would have the final size down to 15-17 EVERYTIME without losing a lot of quality. Trust me, I've listened to a whole show on the 128kbs setting and converted that to 24kbs immediately AND listened to it again and there wasn't any noticable difference. This is what you're looking for. So get it, try it, ask me for the settings and copy me those CDs you're going to burn. ;) —j4k3 |
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Jeremy |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 10:12 AM The size of the file has absolutely nothing to do with it fitting on an audio CD. It's the length that matters. —Jeremy |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 6:33 PM I've thought about fitting a show on a CD too, and all I could think of to do is cut out all the bumpers, then possibly "speed up" the audio by a few percent. I think this would sound kinda silly, but it could work. Or the other possibility is to remove the silence from the file, like when a caller is quiet for a couple seconds, and depending on how strict your "silence" is you can probably cut down the lenghth quite a bit. But for whoever said making them commercial free will take them down to 80, it won't, because taking out the commercials brings the lenghth down from 120 minutes to usuaully just over 90 minutes. —puck71 |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 7:20 PM Yea, its usually about 92 minutes
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j4k3 |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 8:22 PM Jeremy, you might want to rethink what you said. Actually, the length does NOT matter at all. I can have two different file sizes of the SAME file. For example: Loveline-20040511.mp3 - 41.2mb (128kbs bitrate, whole show commercial-free) Using aumpel, I can reencode(?) that same file to make it: Loveline-20040511.mp3 - 16.6mb (24kbs bitrate, whole show commercial-free) Notice the HUGE difference in their file sizes? Imagine if you want to put your collection on a CD... Now, if I want to listen to that show again, I would copy it from the CD that I burned it to, paste it to any folder for example, and then convert it again to the original 128kbs (if you want) and voila! Almost near CD-quality (of course, this depends on your source, the sound card used, etc.) and it would be the EXACT SAME BIG FILE THAT YOU ORIGINALLY DOWNLOADED! Did I lose any part of the show? Hell, no. The length of the show is still the same - about 90 minutes w/o the commercial. I download all my Loveline episodes either from the DC hub or from the newsgroup and are you trying to say that they're all incomplete shows and that the size of the file has NOTHING to do with the bitrate and has EVERYTHING to do with the length?!? Please. Another example - I have the audiobook Awaken the Giant Within by Anthony Robbins (110 minutes, 82mb, 128kbs bitrate) and I wanted to listen to it on my mp3 player. However, I only have a total of 64mb on my portable mp3 player and again, using aumpel (everytime I set it to 24kbs I ALWAYS have an output file that is somewhere in the 15-17mb range), I managed to reduce the file size to 15.8mb AND I DID NOT LOSE A SINGLE SECOND FROM THE ORIGINAL 82MB FILE!!! Does this make sense at all? So basically, by doing that, you could fit TONS more of episodes on a single CD and then, just convert it back to 128kbs (if you want) whenever you want to listen to it. Ever heard of the zip file? Aumpel is exactly designed to do that -- but only for mp3 files. Go ahead, download aumpel and try it. —j4k3 |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 8:54 PM Oy. I sense a flame war brewing. Please, everybody, don't fight :-) What Jeremy said is exactly correct. Only the length matters for an audio CD. But, as Dr. Ipod wrote, "the best way to back up your MP3s is to burn them as data" -- and on a data CD, size does matter. (This is how TLC's audio archives are stored: on an ever-growing pile of data CD-Rs.) Size doesn't matter for sex, BTW -- or so I've heard. This thread has become confusing, because different people are talking about different things. —Silent Virgin |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 9:10 PM Good move SV. Thanks. —Jeremy |
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dr ipod |
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 9:15 PM Yeah, and for the record, ZT was wrong, the commercial free show is 90-92 minutes usually. If there is a band in and they play 2 of their songs, if you cut those out those shows usually are around 82-84 minutes. —dr ipod |
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superhew |
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Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 7:39 AM there are always bad calls that are just incredibly boring. some of the longer ones could be cut to save more time. —superhew |
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Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 12:28 PM heh I probably should have been more specific. I want to put it on a CD so I could listen to them on my discman. I would only listen to em when I go out of town (which isn't often) so MP3 player is not something I need... —Ukerz |
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superhew |
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Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 1:24 PM there was no relevant information in that post. —superhew |
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dr ipod |
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Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 3:15 PM Actually if you got an MP3 player you could just bring it with you instead of your discman and the 20 discs you burn just to bring with you!!! But to each his own. —dr ipod |
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Monday, May 24, 2004 at 7:56 AM Maybe you could give yourself the best of both worlds and buy a Discman that plays MP3 CD's. Then you can put about 40-50 episodes on one disc in MP3 format and still be able to play regular, store bought CD's. —koonsmachine |
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