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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 9:56 AM I've noticed that in the past week or so we have had posts by "New Guy", "Sick FU@#", and "Mr. Snoot" which have caused a little contreversy. I think we should very simply use one of Adam's techniques for getting people to stop doing something that is really annoying. Very simply IGNORE THEM. This means not replying at all to any of those messages which are obviously written to get a rise out of all us. This will require EVERYONES cooperation! And im sure it will work. Unless of course this guy posts his own follow ups which i believe happend in one of his previous posts.. —FlyinACE |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 10:34 AM The only problem with that is that some of these posts/identities are pretty damn funny. I have to admit, I laugh out loud whenever Dr. I. M. Jackinov asks us to guess what he's doing right now. Even though he (she?) isn't really adding much to the conversation in terms of intelligent discourse, it makes me laugh. Don't worry, water rises to its own level... eventually, we'll grow tired of the aliases that aren't funny or useful, and they'll shrivel up and die. Oh, and "NEXT CALLER!" —Agent 007 |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 1:16 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 1:17 PM I suggested an Ignore button just after Pan Pan joined the site. Even though I'm sure many people would use it on me, I'd still love to see it. —Jeremy |
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superhew |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 1:32 PM we would probably end up ignoring so many people that the threads would start to make no sense because some threads would be so badly cut up from posts being ignored that converstions and debats would end up making no sense because you wouldnt know if someone you blocked has already said it. its probably best to leave out the ignore button, but instead just try to get ip's and usernames blocked. that way, they cant post at all and that would leave out the confusion. of course, they could alwys return because no one has a 100% static ip address. and whats wrong with pan pan? hes funny as hell.... —superhew |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 2:42 PM Ignore would be an okay option I guess, but Silent Virgin is the God of the board, whatever wrath s/he decided would be fine with me. —Logo Lou |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 3:15 PM Yeah, I agree Ace -- every thread starts out "about something", but quickly degenerates into some retarded fucking personal attack about how "so and so's an idiot", etc. Ignoring really is the best solution -- This is like Adam telling guys not to "dance" with their chaotic girlfriends. I mean, an argument requires more than one person -- You can have one single jack-off trying all day long to bait people into an argument, but if no one takes him up on it, then voila! -- Problem solved -- No argument. The problem is, we have a lot of passionate, passionate teenagers here -- it's very difficult for them to turn the other cheek or ignore someone who's being a prick to them -- They see some idiot making a smart ass remark about something they posted and now it's game on. But seriously everybody -- Just try going one day without letting retards drag you down into the gutter with them and watch what a utopia this place becomes. (This is applicable to your real lives as well.) Anytime some fucking idiot says, "You're stupid.", you don't have to prove to them that they're wrong -- I mean, hey -- if you actually are smart, then people around you will already know by your actions. Stop acting like this is 1st century China and everyone's dying to "prove their honor". If you see a stupid comment then just move on -- the only thing worse than the stupid comment is the person taking the time to comment on the stupid comment. And p.s. Jeremy -- I don't think anyone would ignore you if we had ignore buttons -- You've been a little bitchy at times, but overall, you've proven yourself to be a bright kid who contributes a lot of intelligent stuff. And likewise, the same can be said for pretty much everyone here -- Everybody has contributed a lot of great things during the history of this site -- It's only been in the past few days that things have come to a grinding halt thanks to one or two idiots. Having said all that, *clap, clap, clap* Let's go everybody -- Get a hand in -- superhew, that helmet's not a chair -- Come on now gentleman -- And I use that term loosely -- Let's try to stay focused -- Come on now... *clap, clap, clap* —steve |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 3:56 PM Thanks for the mention, steve. It brought tears of joy to my eyes. —Jeremy |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 4:17 PM what the fuck mother fucking peice of mother fucking shit? steve your a gay mother fucking homosexual fucker from fucking hell! i totally disagree with your stupid ass remarks and i hope you die.
no seriously now, i agree with you steve. except on a few parts, but i dont have the energy to post them, and they really arent important anyway. good times!
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 4:40 PM Here's the funny part: I bet there are only two people actually posting on this thread. —prick stuck |
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 11:32 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 11:38 PM If IP addresses were visible we'd see that there are only 5 +or- different people posting regularly and that even Silent Virgin is several of the would-be regulars (sorry buddy). The recent outbreak of multiple "alter eogos" has diminished the quality of this site. In several threads you have the same person conversing with as many as 4-5 of their own alter egos pretending to be different people. Unfortunately Pan Pan, who is one of the most entertaining characters, is only a character and not a true personality. If this person can post as an average Loveline Forum member as he has admitted, then the made up character has to be Pan Pan instead of the other persona. No one this flamboyant could turn it off if it were not a false persona to begin with. Silent Virgin I have changed my mind about this. Let's make the IP address visible and bring the quality up by flushing out the fakes. Those with multiple monikers can pick the one they want to stick to from this point forward. —Adam's Crows |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 5:29 AM
Edited Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 5:29 AM Inherent problems with posting the IP addresses to dissuade tards from posting:
- networks where multiple workstations are translated to one external IP
- people with access to multiple IPs (home/work/school have different IPs)
- dynamic IPs - people with dial-up or DSL get new IPs constantly
- possible security risks (not that ips are in any way hidden, but I'm sure it wouldn't help)
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 6:17 AM
Edited Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 6:20 AM "Inherent problems with posting the IP addresses to dissuade tards from posting:"
"* networks where multiple workstations are translated to one external IP"
-Not a problem. Not likely many people are posting from such set ups.
"* people with access to multiple IPs (home/work/school have different IPs) "
-It is a deterrent, at least it makes it difficult to have immediate bogus dialogues. "* dynamic IPs - people with dial-up or DSL get new IPs constantly"
-Only the last 2-3 digits are assigned new. The bulk of the IP is consistent and recognizable. "* possible security risks (not that ips are in any way hidden, but I'm sure it wouldn't help)"
-What security risks? That is pure BS. The benefits outweigh all risks No solution is perfect. Visible IP's will help clear up 98% of it. 2% is not a real problem. And just because it will be possible for a very small number of people to get around the visible IP consequences does not mean that EVERYONE who can will. —Adam's Crows |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 10:49 AM Adam's Crows, you're obviously not a technical person. You don't seem to have a very firm grasp on networking concepts. With that, I'll throw in my vote: NO visible IPs. No reputable forum in the world has visible IPs, because there is no reason. The IPs should be available strictly to Silent Virgin, period. —Jeremy |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 1:41 PM adams crows, you obviously need to learn a thing or two about IP addys. first, i want to tell you i agree with your first 2 statements on your last post. but dial up and dsl dont always change the last part of an IP. This might only happen on small ISP networks where they only have IP's reserved in that subnet. Most ISP's such as AOL, MSN, etc. have massive amounts of reserved IP addy's and woul dbe almost impossible to tell them apart. This happens with cable too, when you reset your cable modem by unplugging it. As far as security risks, as long as everyone has a $500 hardware firewall, with every port closed, hacking is always a risk. Denial of Service attacks, buffer overflows, noobish packet storming, etc. is all easily done with an IP and a list of open ports. So, basically what im trying to say is that visible ip's might not be a graet idea. Any other ideas? —superhew |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 1:46 PM Dial-up will give you a new IP each time you login. Depending on your dialup provider, the IPs you're assigned can be in completely different class A spaces each time you login. DSL, even when using PPPoE login, usually keeps the IP address the same, unless the ISP reconfigures the network. The same is true for cable. I don't have a clue how you came up with the $500 hardware firewall for security. That's certainly not necessary. —Jeremy |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 5:18 PM Flying Ace I am sooo glad you started this thread. I felt like in the last
2 weeks - it's not been enjoyable to read the stuff that's been posted here -
SV - you've created a great site, & one I always looked forward to checking
out. Ignore seems like one possible option. I am just glad that others have
noticed the shift in communication. There's so many great ideas that have be
presented over the last year, let's hope the past 2 weeks angry posts will
quickly get lost in the shuffle. —Lavender |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 5:37 PM jeremy, it was an exageration, as to say that one would have to spend a lot of money to keep themselves safe from being hacked, but even still theres the possibilty. i guess i should have made my exageration easier to understand. good times. —superhew |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 11:50 PM
Edited Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 11:52 PM Who cares if no other forum in the world has visible IP's. How would you even know this? You could not have been to every forum in the world. One reason you might not need to consider such a thing is if the moderator(s) actually moderate. There are forums that do not allow multiple memberships. Yes- there are ways to get around this but there are also ways to limit it. The way this place has been run there are people creating a new membership every time they want to make a point or they want someone to agree with their point. Arguing about someone's technical knowledge is more of the same shit that started this downward spiral with suck fick pretending to be sick fuck. If this can't be controlled with the technology then there are ways that are being used on other sites that might work. I don't give a rat's ass who knows more than who whether it is networking or you went to law school. Something needs to change here because this place was once pretty nice. Lately it blows. —Cracked |
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 11:55 PM Adam's Crows, I am shocked and deeply hurt that you think I'm only pretending to be the polymorphously perverse and delightfully gay man-about-town that I truly am and always have been. Just because I decided a couple of months ago to give you lovelies a short break from my screaming queen intensity by trying, with tremendous difficulty, to pose as a boring conventional person...well, it's devastating that one of my most ardent fans thinks I'm a faker. How dare you, sir, doubt my sincere commitment to The Lifestyle! Pan Pan has struggled long and valiantly to overcome straight society's stupid obstacles and live life as it must be lived--with flair, grace, and a stiff one buried deep in your Po-Po.
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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 1:48 AM
Edited Friday, May 21, 2004 at 1:49 AM Okay so my networking knowledge isn't up to snuff. Don't attack me for it but by all means feel free to post information. I stand corrected. There has to be something to prevent this garbage posting.
Pan Pan,
There are a (very) few posts indicating that they do not like your comments but most of what I have seen shows me people enjoy them. I do not see any reason to be any other character unless you enjoy expressing yourself differently. You don't need to give anyone a break. I hope you are not one of the garbage posters that have dragged this forum down recently. I just don't think you can be this character and act like an average shmo when posting under another name. I believe Pan Pan is just a character. Funny, clever and creative though. —Adam's Crows |
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Friday, May 21, 2004 at 5:16 PM AC, i hope you didnt think i was attacking you with my post, i was only trying to explain the more detailed side of networking and ip's. sorry if it sounded like i was trying to put you down. —superhew |
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