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Michael Moore : Good or Bad Guest?

  

Faygo

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 4:39 PM

I think he would be a very interesting guest now that his 9/11 movie is coming out. It makes you wonder what drew and adam think about Moore's thought their being no purpose for the Iraq war. I think adam and drew were for the war so that would be interesting. What do you guys think?

Faygo

  

Adam's Crows

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 4:59 PM

The decision not to distribute his Ferenheit911(sp?) would be interesting to a point. I will see the movie when it is eventually released. Moore is one big blow-hard and I have heard what he has to say in interviews already. It would just be the usual and predictable ranting and complaining. No thanks.

Adam's Crows

  

mikeyfish

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:09 PM

I hate when anyone, even Adam, brings up politics on the show. And if Michael Moore was on, that would be the ENTIRE show.

mikeyfish

  

Marc

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:11 PM

I think Michael Moore would be a fine guest. Hes got messages and likes to spread em in a fairly non-blowhardish manner. I was just thinking back about two things concerning the show and the war. When someone asked Drew and Adam what they thought of it, Drew mentioned the link between Iraq and al-queda and WMD. Say what you want about the flimsy argument about WMD, but even before the war there was not even a proven link between Iraq and al-queda. The other thing I was thinking about was how Adam says that one way to see that cultures are different is to look at how they treat their prisoners of war. With the recent news of American prison guards torturing/abusing prisoners and about a dozen unexplained murders of prisoners, perhaps we can just say that horrible and "inhumane" behavior can be traced to humans in general regardles of ethnicity, race, or religion. These were white American christians doing this. (I think the most troubling thing was that quite a few of these National Guardsmen are actually prison guards back home.) Our actions may not be the Baton Death March but they sure about troubling. Sorry for this perhaps rushed and incoherent rant; I just wanted to get it off my chest. But, yes, Michael Moore, probably fine guest.

Marc

  

Jeremy

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:27 PM

Our actions may not be the Baton Death March but they sure about troubling.

You fucking bleeding heart liberal. It was a few people in one prison. It's not reflective of US policy.

That said, I believe Michael Moore would be a shitty guest. I can't stand the guy, or his opinions.

Jeremy

  

Adam's Crows

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:40 PM

He's made a movie about this. See that.

Adam's Crows

  

Leif

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:05 PM

It was a few people in one prison.

--Jeremy

Under the Geneva Conventions, the ICRC [International Committee of the Red Cross] monitors treatment of prisoners and detainees in war zones. The organization delivers its confidential reports directly to governments that run the prisons, however, and they rarely reach the public. ICRC officials said they were unhappy that details of their reports had leaked to the press.

Girod confirmed details cited in a Wall Street Journal report Friday that described a confidential 24-page summary of last year's prison visits.

The summary report, which was written in January and submitted to U.S. authorities in February, concluded that abuse of prisoners was widespread in Iraq. [Emphasis added.]

--"Red Cross Blew Whistle on Abuses", The Los Angeles Times, Saturday, May 8, 2004

My heart is bleeding.

Leif

  

Jeremy

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:10 PM

Better stop the bleeding before you lose too much blood and die.


On second thought, nevermind. Go ahead and die, the world would be a much better place without you.

Jeremy

  

ZT

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:22 PM

Adam has a little anti-liberal stubborness left over in him. Probably from putting up with his mother's endevors to get a chicano studies degree, and growing up around LA.

It's unfortuane when politics and stereotypes screw up people's honest attempts to try and get their point accross.

Michael Moore would be a great guest. And, if you've been keep score, he's being doing pretty good at being right about.... ohh... everything.

At some point, all of you are going to have to stop towing adam's blowhard line, and start thinking for yourselves. You'll be glad you did.

ZT

  

Magnificent Bastard

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:26 PM

I don't really care about those prisoners being abused. I really don't. Fairly benign events when you consider what has been done to coaltion forces in Iraq. A few naked dogpiles is small potatoes compared to being burned and dragged through the streets.

People seem to forget the 30 or so dead in that prison from the "insurgents" lobbing explosives over the prison wall in hopes of inciting riots and inflicting coalition casualties. If they don't care about their own people, why should I? (don't answer, it's rhetorical)

And Moore would be a shitty guest. Better to do an Operation: Dumbo Drop of his fat ass over Baghdad.

Magnificent Bastard

  

Leif

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:41 PM

I'm not sure about Michael Moore, but I think Al Franken might make a good guest. It would be awesome if he did his Donald Rumsfeld impersonation. ("Did I say 'imminent threat'? Quite possibly. Should I resign? Maybe so.") Anderson could turn it into a drop, just like the Bill Clinton one. Plus, Franken is on AAR, and it was Franken's book which turned Howard Stern into a Bush-basher, so Franken is relevant to radio in general.

They should have Howard Stern on, too. Has he ever been on? Adam has certainly done Stern's show enough times...

Leif

  

ZT

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:42 PM

Okey doke, Mr. Algonquin Table. :)

ZT

  

Magnificent Bastard

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:51 PM

Tough one to swallow, ZT? Tough like a scab, I'd bet. :)

Magnificent Bastard

  

Marc

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 7:53 PM

Jeremy, touche! You got me there. Good argument. MB, I quite honestly dont know how to respond to your insensitive remarks other than to say that the four dead that you were referring to were not coalition forces but rather private contractors from a civilian security firm named Blackwater. Yes, it was disgusting and horrible what happened to them. Ironically, it is private contractors who are being questioned for some of the unexplained deaths of Iraqis in American possession. Bush and his friends have done so much wrong to this country that there are too many to list. Two of my faves are that Bush will be the first President since Herbert Hoover to preside over a net job loss (http://www.laborresearch.org/story.php?id=327) and that his brother (and probable future President) Jeb decided to quell classroom overcrowding by making 12th grade optional and allowing students to "graduate" after the 11th grade (http://www.abcactionnews.com/stories/2003/08/030829earlygrad.shtml). Bad times!

Marc

  

This Charming Man

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 8:18 PM

Nous sommes desoles que notre president soit un idiot. Nous n’avons pas vote pour lui. (*)

This Charming Man

  

superhew

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 8:20 PM

that is a pretty fucking funny article.

superhew

  

clodhopper

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 8:41 PM

I don't know how ANYONE could say Michael Moore is right about anything. He's a skilled propagandist. Just looking at Bowling for Columbine you see where he's selectively editted everything he's shown to portray exactly the image he wants. It doesn't even reflect reality at a number of points.

That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing Michael Moore as a guest because I know without the benefit of editting behind him he'll make a huge ass of himself.


clodhopper

  

ZT

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 8:46 PM

Tough like a scab, but sweet like a white head.

ZT

  

Farty Face

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 8:49 PM

Moore is a fucking penis face. Moore and Adam are a compleate 180 degree opposite of each other in ideology. Drew is about a 140 degree. Even adam with his near zero knowlege of anything and his zero reading policy could out debate Moore. Moore will NEVER come on the show even if invited because he cant defend any of his opinions. He only hangs out with people that agree with him.

Farty Face

  

Johnny

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 10:01 PM

I hate Michael Moore, he is a fat blowhard. Adam would fucking hate his guts. See the movies "Michael Moore Hates America" it should come out this summer.

Johnny

  

Leif

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 11:58 PM

I agree with Johnny. There is no place for dissent in America.

"...your moral authorities don't always have your best interests in mind. Teachers, principals, clergymen, politicians -- for the Simpsons, they're all goofballs, and I think that's a great message for kids."

--Matt Groening

Mayor Quimby: You're nothing but a mindless mob. I'm sick of you people.

Member of mob: He's right! Give us hell, Quimby!

--The Simpsons

Leif

  

Pan Pan

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 12:50 AM

Oh Jeremy, you little scamp! Your macho tough-guy posturing is making Pan Pan's cattle prod throb with 50,000 volts of Fruit Juice. Prepare for insertion.

Pan Pan

  

Josh

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 12:50 AM

Mike Moore... mooore shit. thank-you.

Josh

  

salemthepocketfox

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 1:17 AM

I'm not even American but from the little press coverage I see here, he needs shot... The far left seem to complain about everything but it would be interesting to see Adam yell at him when Adam's far right anti-Middle East ect ideas come to light... Didn't he side with some Democrat and loose the majority of the primaries [?] because of his relation with him or something?...

salemthepocketfox

  

piesore

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 2:53 AM

Awesome. Flame war.
It's interesting to see how liberal is a bad word in America. Adam has an assful of both the liberal and conservative ideology. It's because it's ideology, filtering your view of the world around certain viewpoints, instead of looking at the facts and making an opinion based on those.
It would really come down to how Moore presented his message, because that's what matters, HOW you say something, not what you say. It could either be sensationalistic and confrontational, or interesting and informative.
But again, coming back to the whole "bleeding heart" issue, that whole thing just interests me, and it really ties into the shittiness of media in the States. It was well known before the war intelligence had been manipulated, and intentionally so, and that no WMD's existed, something verified by numerous official sources, but you never heard this fact debated in the mainstream press. All the views you get of liberals are the ones chanting slogans in the street, emphasizing the thread of anti-American sentiment that runs through the movement. But that's no more representative of liberals than the KKK is of conservatives. There were plenty of articulate voices who would have been able to have provided specific, and consise reasons as to why there shouldn't have been an invasion, whether it was lack of WMD's, lack of Al Queda or terrorist ties, faking of evidence by the US government. But again, instead of this being brought up and being seen as a debate, you get labeled as a US hating commie. Interesting...and now look where it's gotten us.
I guess my point is, if the media was in fact liberal, president bush would have been hung out to dry long ago, considering everything that's happened. They really haven't latched onto the issues, like they did with Clinton. Think about it, getting impeached over a blowjob, versus knowingly ignoring intelligence, or in some ways worse, just having an entire agency so incompetent it resulted in the largest terror attacks in US history, and let to a war based on false pretenses.
The citizens of the US were blatently lied to, that should bother them tremendously, and it doesn't, while the misinformation continues. I don't think it's really a media conspiracy, so much as general pussiness. It's so much easier to cite a White House press release, then go out and find the info yourself. Much safer, too.

piesore

  

ZT

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 3:06 AM

Yeah... clodhopper, it's worth mentioning for every site like the hardylaw law, theres another thats a response to it, with a response to the response, and then another response to that response. At least take a look at these two sites:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

and

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/12/171427/607

ZT

  

Marc

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 6:23 AM

To follow up those two links check out Claim Vs. Fact. It shows how this Adminstration and its cronies have lied over and over again. It even has some instances where they are lying about lying.


Marc

  

Puff

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 4:07 PM

Fuck that liberal pussy.
Dumb bastard saying we have no bidniss in Iraq... We freed them poor some bitches from that Saddam nigga, and are helpin cleaning stuff up. That's what we do. We aren't gonna be attacked and just sit back and take it.
And that anti-gun bullshit too... If you take away the guns, the bad guys are still gonna get em because they don't pay attention to the law and it's just gonna be the good guys without guns unable to protect themselves.
Yeah, sounds like a goddamned communist.

Puff

  

Farty Face

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 4:16 PM

Read Hardys response to Moore. Then make up your mind.

http://www.hardylaw.net/MoorereplyHeston.html

Wow that pretty much blows moores response out of the water. Is there a response to this response? What about a response to the other 75% of hardy's points that Moore "forgot" to respond to?

Look at the Heston Speech alone:

http://www.hardylaw.net/Bowlingtranscript.html

You honestly dont see the difference between the original speech and moores edit of the speech? How is Moore not lying?


http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=110003233/
http://bowlingfortruth.com
http://www.gunowners.org/opmooretb.htm

Look at moores own fucking words for gods sake! When asked about the "glaring inaccuracies in Bowling for colombine" how does Moore respond?
"How can there be inaccuracies in a comedy?"

HE HIMSELF CALLED THE MOVIE A COMEDY, NOT A DOCUMENTERY


Farty Face

  

ZT

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 4:56 PM
Edited Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 5:01 PM

Look, all I'm saying is -- If it look like a ho, and it smell like, and it talk like a ho, and it farts ho, then what you think it is? I think it's a ho, don't you? I do like what Michael Moore said on his site:

Look, I accept the fact that, if I go after the Thief-in-Chief – and more people buy my book than any other nonfiction book last year – then that is naturally going to send a few of his henchmen after me. Fine. That's okay. I knew that before I got into this and I ain't whining about it now.

I also realize that you just don't go after the NRA and its supporters and then not expect them to come back at you with both barrels (so to speak). These are not nice people and they don't play nice – that's how they got to be so powerful.

I think MC Chris should do a song like "geek" about Michael Moore fans.

Stop picking on me
because I'm a geek
I'm strange to you
you're strange to me
you know one of these days
I'm gonna pack heat
your brains on the wall
my face on tv
...
If this was D&D
you'd see me jump in to a portal
...
you get in my way, bitch
you get a vulcan neck pinch
...
I bust my biscuits over
britney in a bubble bath

tee-hee. I don't know how it would go... Maybe like:

Stop fucking with me
cause I'm a moore freak
your links are weak
your sites use frames
one of these days
you're gonna eat meat
with mad cow disease
my vegitarian ass will laugh at you
while I make big fiber carbohydrate poo

I don't know.

ZT

  

dillmc

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 7:11 PM

i tihnk that if you dont like it, go somewhere else. i understand some people are angry with how things are run here, but its a lot worse in so many other places. im sure he would be a good guest, until the 2 minute mark where it would all become political and there would be no calls taken.

dillmc

  

Saffeau

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 9:31 PM

So if you don't like the FCC shutting down Stern, or the FDA making Plan B harder to get, you should go somewhere else? (Canada, perhaps?) Yeah, OK.

Saffeau

  

commie

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 10:54 PM

Michael Moore is not even a Useful Idiot. He is what we Marxists call a Fabian, a breed that Lenin denounced as "mere opportunists". All Moore will ever accomplish with his childishly ineffectual agitations is to deflect the proletariat from the class struggle by dangling the delusory hope of a peaceful, gradual transition from capitalism to socialism by means of reform. This is, at root, a betrayal of the true revolutionary consciousness. Lenin, if he could not find a use for him, would have had such a parasite put against the wall and shot.

commie

  

piesore

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 11:04 PM

Wow. Puff. So articulate. I guess you're referring to the 9/11 attacks when you say the US won't just sit back and take it. That's the point. There were no real connections made between Iraq and 9/11, yet 75% of Americans thought it was Iraquis on those planes.

piesore

  

ZT

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 12:47 AM

dillmc -- thats really a terrible argument. Governments, since the dawn of time, would love if dissidents just up and left their country for some place else. There would be no resistance to anything they wanted to do. As Americans, thats what were not supposed to do. It's our job as citizens to question our government, and it should be open to us doing that.

So the question then becomes whether or not Michael Moore makes valid points. Judging by the backlash, I'd say he does. Like, girls on loveline who "protest too much." :)

ZT

  

Farty Face

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 1:52 AM

Hey ZT, I agree with you. Moore does actually make valid points. (Although his main thesis in Bowling for Columbine is retardedly unclear). The problem with Moore is that although his main points are valid, his method of demonstrating those points is fucking despicable. He is literally the modern day Joseph Geobbels. He should really be ashamed of himself, and I think most democrats agree. Why else do you think Clark took a huge dip in the polls (of registered democrats) right after Moore came out and supported him?

Farty Face

  

clodhopper

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 10:10 AM

I did take a look at the links that you provided (ZT) and they're generally bad responses that barely defend Moore.

"Standard filmmaking techniques" are just brushed off as unimportant. What this critic seems oblivous too is that this was being presented a documentary--a reflection of reality. You can't just use "standard filmmaking techniques" and then claim you're passing everything off as truth.

"Moore is a professional filmmaker -- he concentrates on maximum impact of each of the statements he cites, and to accomplish that effect, uses subtle interludes instead of long-winded introductions. This is a common technique, but because conservative readers are not familiar with the basics of filmmaking, they believe critics who claim that he is "distorting" the interview. What he does is standard filmmaking practice."

I can't believe someone is so oblivious. Were this a conservative piece, this same guy would be all over it talking about how inaccurate the distortions are. But when Moore does it, it's just all in good fun.

Fact is, when you selectively piece together things to "create" an image (not, not reflect reality) you create something which isn't real. Why this response never sees that, I don't know. (I'd wager is has something to do with their political inclinations though.)

clodhopper

  

Agent 007

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 10:33 AM

In response to the ORIGINAL question:

Yes, Michael Moore would make a fantastic guest, irrespective of his (or your) politics.

Agent 007

  

superhew

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 12:12 PM
Edited Monday, May 10, 2004 at 12:16 PM

yea he would be a cool guest, i do think it would get political, but that would definetly fire up adam and make a funny show. and ZT, of course governments dont want their citizens to leave their country. yes, there would be less resistence, but if large amounts of people started leaving, how does the country become successful? if there are no people, there is no economy, and then the country would turn into a waste of space.

superhew

  

salemthepocketfox

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 12:24 PM

Were this a conservative piece, this same guy would be all over it talking about how inaccurate the distortions are. But when Moore does it, it's just all in good fun.

Excellent point...

salemthepocketfox

  

Proc

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 2:08 PM

Anyone who thinks documentaries like Moore's are supposed to be unbiased is foolish. And it's not the film-makers fault, it's the viewers fault for being ignorant about the purpose of documentary filmmaking. Wether or not Moore's facts are accurate is a whole other question, though.

Personally I think he'd be a boring guest.

Proc

  

sick fuck

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 2:22 PM
Edited Monday, May 10, 2004 at 2:22 PM

"If there are no people, there is no economy, and then the country would turn into a waste of space."

LMAO.

superhew, how old are you?

sick fuck

  

GDG

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 2:42 AM
Edited Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 2:46 AM

All I know is that I like some humor with my political thought. Moore is able to do that sometimes when one is open-minded. P.J. O'Rourke is able to do it if you are open-minded. Adam is able to do that if one is open-minded. (Adam doesn't have a clear ideology though) Some others aren't like Rush Limbaugh and Janeane Garafolo don't because their politcs/humor is too pedantic.

Moore does have some over-simplifying tendencies that I don't like and I cringed as I watched "Bowling," but doesn't mean that I have to call him names because I disagreed with parts of his movie, or his motives. There are some points to his movie that need to be answered but he didn't quite do it himself, like why do we have a lot more violence that goes on here compared to other advanced First World countries.

GDG

  

superhew

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 3:53 PM

sick fuck, you dont agree? you think that a country can prosper with a small amount of people? kind of like all those african countries. they are all doing so well with society and technology....

i do think that people should fight for what they want. i also think that politicians should (under reasonable circumstances) give the tax-payers and voters what they want. Of course there are some huge issues (ie. war in iraq), where no one will be pleased.

but back to the original point, governments dont want working people to leave. sick fuck, explain your ideas behind why you think my comment was funny? i dont see how a country with a small amount of people could possibly become successful.

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 10:35 PM

superhew,

If the sun explodes tomorrow, all the people will die, and then there would be no more economy. That would be bad. It would make me very sad.

Seriously, how old are you?

sick fuck

  

Farty Face

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 10:53 PM

Nah I agree with sick fuck. superjew speaks with no real point. words for the sake of words

Farty Face

  

Lou Cypher

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 8:47 AM

Sheesh to all of you. Let me give my brief recap of my feelings, since I am certain that all of these posts have been leading up to me. O, forgot to mention that I am self-centered.:

-Michael Moore would be a good guest - look at this thread for proof. Good guests provide fodder for fans of any show. He'd be even better than Al Franken because he is more over-the-top.

-I'm one of those boring moderate Democrats that noone seems to talk about. So be it. Moore says things meant to shake up the system. Does he deceive sometimes? Yes. Misrepresent facts? Yes. Does this make him a bad man? Well, kinda, yeah. But he IS thought-provoking as long as you have an open mind. I'll be honest, I felt taken advantage of when I found out he spliced 2 different NRA Heston speeches together for his own purposes. But I can also look at his general message as well.

What is the big current theme in action movies these days? The lesser of two evils. The not-so-perfect guy who himself is flawed and whose hands are dirty does what he feels is right in taking on worse people. That is who Michael Moore believes he is.

Lou Cypher

  

Saffeau

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:29 PM

About a year ago, I heard Michael Moore being interviewed by a not so adoring host. Moore sputtered, stammered, and cut the interview short. He's exactly like Rush Limbaugh--great as long as HE'S controlling the interview and being fed softball questions. He falls apart when his host doesn't kiss his ass, though. (Dennis Miller is the same way. Remember when he had Eric Alterman on a few weeks ago and got all flustered and sulky when he couldn't counter Alterman's arguments?) So, if Adam and Drew didn't kiss some serious ass, Michael Moore would be a dud on Loveline.

Saffeau

  

Lou Cypher

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:42 PM

Saff, but that's where Adam'd excel. As long as guests are smart (and even Moore's detractors shouldn't consider him anything but), Adam takes them for the ride...IF they're game. I don't get people with "viewpoints" and "issues" on either side who puss-out when it comes down to it. Also, Adam's bs detector is really pretty damn good, so if he challenges Moore on a point or 2, it'd be interesting to see how the schlub comes back at the critique. Good radio.

Lou Cypher

  

Saffeau

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:56 PM

It would only be interesting if Moore gave as good as he got (as I suspect Dr. Loftus would). But I'm pretty sure Moore would get all testy and walk out after the first twenty minutes.

Saffeau

  

Faygo

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:58 PM

I would think he would be a good guest because of lou's reasons

Faygo

  

sick fuck

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 4:42 PM

I wouldn't fuck Michael Moore with Faygo's dick.

sick fuck

  

superhew

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 5:28 PM

i agree with you lou.

and i think adam would kiss his ass the whole show, so he wouldnt leave after 20 mins. remember the darkness? you could tell adam knew that they were getting tired of the show, so he started kissing a lot of ass. they ended up leaving anyway (because they are pussies...this has already been discussed) but i think michael moore would stay the whole show. It would be good.

Did someone hear he was going to be on, or was this thread just for a random question? it would be cool to know if he was going to be on soon...

superhew

  

GDG

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:11 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:20 PM

"Didn't he side with some Democrat and loose the majority of the primaries [?] because of his relation with him or something?..." - salemthepocketfox

"He should really be ashamed of himself, and I think most democrats agree. Why else do you think Clark took a huge dip in the polls (of registered democrats) right after Moore came out and supported him?" - Farty Face


Sounds like you guys get your information from Rush Limbaugh, Fox News or NRA newsletters. Here's why Democrats didn't like Clark: Until very recently he was a registered Republican. Furthermore, he wrote in an op-ed in support for the Iraq invasion, but then when he runs for the Democratic nomination, he's against it. (if you think Kerry did the same thing when he voted for the resolution had better look at the details of that resolution that empowered the President to invade Iraq and the promises that the administration had made to garner more support) All of his primary opponents used it against him, just as any political campaign would. There's been occurances of this before where aspiring presidential candidates who switched parties got little support to be the nomination. (prime example would be Gov. Connelly, who was a Democrat, {was shot alongside JFK} but turned Republican in the 70s and ran for the Presidential nomination, and there are others)

So your connection between Michael Moore support of Wesley Clark and his bottom of the pack showing in the Democratic primaries is spurious.

GDG

  

Faygo

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:28 PM

This is a totally random question. There is no news that Moore will be coming on the show anytime soon.

Faygo

  

GDG

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:29 PM

"You fucking bleeding heart liberal" - Jeremy

"And Moore would be a shitty guest. Better to do an Operation: Dumbo Drop of his fat ass over Baghdad." - Magnificent Bastard

"I hate Michael Moore, he is a fat blowhard." - Johnny

"Mike Moore... mooore shit. thank-you." - Josh

"Fuck that liberal pussy" - Puff

"I wouldn't fuck Michael Moore with Faygo's dick." - sick fuck

After reading that, I have one question: How old are you splosers?

GDG

  

sick fuck

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:32 PM

Did someone just say that Yasser Arafat has never heard of Loveline? He would be a great guest. Imagine the spirited debate between that clapped-out old terrorist fag and the gay-suspicious Jewish Doctor Drew.

What does "random" mean?

sick fuck

  

sick fuck

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:33 PM

GDG, I am 47 years old.

sick fuck

  

sick fuck

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:40 PM

I wouldn't fuck Rush Limbaugh with GDG's dick.

sick fuck

  

superhew

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:03 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:04 PM

if sick fuck had a dick, i would fuck a 50 year old pregnant prostitute with herpes with it.

superhew

  

GDG

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:15 PM
Edited Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:32 PM

Alert: Sick Fuck is a over-the-hill desperate sploser who needs Viagra and a strap on. (a carrot would suffice for him, though)


Btw, sf, Drew is not Jewish. (his father is Jewish, mother isn't...not a Jew)

GDG

  

sick fuck

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:25 PM

Barring the flagrant unlikelihood of even finding a pregnant 50-year-old prostitute...

sick fuck

  

sick fuck

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:41 PM

Of course Drew is a Jew. Look how stingy he is. And that nose!

Ehhh, What's up, Doc? (Me!)

sick fuck

  

Jeremy

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 11:18 AM

As far as "real" Jews are concerned, there's no such thing as a half-Jew. You're either all Jew, or you're not.

So technically Drew's a half-Jew, but really he's not Jewish.

Jeremy

  

Faygo

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 1:31 PM

allright, this topic is now in the garbage, thank you.

Faygo

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 1:47 PM
Edited Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 1:48 PM

who cares if hes jewish? all you racist and secular pussies always fighting over whose religion is better. i hate all you religious retards. get a grip and learn not to live life by a book that contradicts itself in so many ways. its a bunch of bs. so what drews dad is jewish. that means his dad is a pussy. drew has never said he was jewish, and if he was adam would make fun of him a lot more. now this thread has nothing to do with michael moore, so the end. i agree with faygo: this belongs in the trash.

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 1:54 PM
Edited Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:21 PM

Why, poor dim superhew, ADAM cares that Drew is Jewish. Haven't you ever noticed how much shit he gives Drew about it, about Drew's stinginess and pitiful brown-nosing, arriviste behavior? So typical of The Tribe. Adam knows this, so why don't YOU?

By the way, you ignoramus, I think you mean "sectarian", not "secular".

sick fuck

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:03 PM

sick fuck, you must be jewish then? because you just named a handful of things that describe your old hopefully-near-death self.

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:09 PM

Poor dim thing. Please stop trying to be clever. It simply looks grotesque on you.

sick fuck

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:13 PM

stop trying to be funny. your stupid remarks mean nothing, have never meant anything, and everyone knows you are just a old peice of dying shit, looking for other people's acceptance. your not going to get it here, so why dont you try to make friends at the nursing home your at?

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:18 PM

Is THAT the best comeback you've got? Poor dim sad sweet young thing. How I enjoy your amusing attempts at vitriolic vituperation. It's touching, really.

sick fuck

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:21 PM

good for you. i will laugh with the rest of the world when your sick ass dies.

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:22 PM

And once again, he feebly rallies and feebly swipes at his nemesis, only to fall on his ass again.

sick fuck

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:32 PM
Edited Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:35 PM

If the sun explodes tomorrow, all the people will die, and then there would be no more economy. That would be bad. It would make me very sad.

I wouldn't fuck Michael Moore with Faygo's dick.

Of course Drew is a Jew. Look how stingy he is. And that nose!

Ehhh, What's up, Doc? (Me!)

Poor dim thing. Please stop trying to be clever. It simply looks grotesque on you

Is THAT the best comeback you've got? Poor dim sad sweet young thing. How I enjoy your amusing attempts at vitriolic vituperation. It's touching, really.

And once again, he feebly rallies and feebly swipes at his nemesis, only to fall on his ass again.

I guess, sick fuck, that we are all waiting for something that is even relatively smart to come out of your mouth. you have proven time and again that you cant make a single statement that makes you look like your not an idiot. when are we going to hear something worth reading? anytime soon? your rebutals are not even well thuoght up. you have proven nothing to anyone and you continue to be an old jack off with too much time.

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 2:36 PM

Irony-proof, as usual, I see.

Yes, I have lots of time on my hands, quite unlike yourself, of course. Have you lost your virginity yet? Need help?

sick fuck

  

Saffeau

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 6:59 PM

Wow. Is this the longest thread the Loveline Companion Forum has ever seen? What a shame that 80% of it consisted of insane rubbish.

Saffeau

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 7:09 PM

nah this is no where near the longest. it just seems long because sick fuck was ranting about nothing.

superhew

  

superhew

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 7:19 PM

the longest one i could find was this- Where are you? thread

superhew

  

sick fuck

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 8:28 PM

Wrong! Try again, superfroot. And Saf-faux, there's a little concept known as research. Try it sometime, instead of begging others for elementary assistance. How old are you, anyway?

sick fuck

  

Farty Face

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 9:11 PM
Edited Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 9:15 PM

Sounds like you guys get your information from Rush Limbaugh, Fox News or NRA newsletters. Here's why Democrats didn't like Clark: Until very recently he was a registered Republican. Furthermore, he wrote in an op-ed in support for the Iraq invasion, but then when he runs for the Democratic nomination, he's against it. (if you think Kerry did the same thing when he voted for the resolution had better look at the details of that resolution that empowered the President to invade Iraq and the promises that the administration had made to garner more support) All of his primary opponents used it against him, just as any political campaign would. There's been occurances of this before where aspiring presidential candidates who switched parties got little support to be the nomination. (prime example would be Gov. Connelly, who was a Democrat, {was shot alongside JFK} but turned Republican in the 70s and ran for the Presidential nomination, and there are others)

So your connection between Michael Moore support of Wesley Clark and his bottom of the pack showing in the Democratic primaries is spurious.


—GDG


God you are fucking blinded by ideology. Clark was GAINING popularity amung democrats. Then all of a sudden Moore came out and endorced him and made that infamous "the general vs the deserter" speech. IMMEDIATLY AFTERWARDS Clarks popularity amung democracts went down. Got that? IMMEDIATLEY AFTERWARDS.

Thats one god damn hell of a coincidence.


Oh and "most democrats dont like clark"????? Are you retarded? BOTH the Clintons overwhelmingly supported Clark. Hillary AND Bill.

Go read a fucking newspaper before you try to talk politics. You just make yourself look foolish

Farty Face

  

ZT

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Friday, May 14, 2004 at 10:34 PM

Farty Face -- Don't equate correlation with casuality.

ZT

  

Farty Face

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Friday, May 14, 2004 at 11:58 PM

no yeah your right. Its not a FACT that moore made clark loose popularity. Im just saying that its one god damn hell of a coincidence that clarks popularity loss was exactly when moore endorced him. I could be wrong. What else happened that exact week that could have hurt clark, especially when his popularity was on the rise? I cant think of anything

Farty Face

  

Jack Shit

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 5:32 AM

Hey, Farty Face:

Do you know me?

Jack Shit

  

piesore

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 9:23 AM

Clarke wasn't winning the nominations, I think that could be another reason why he dropped out.

piesore

  

Farty Face

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 2:23 PM

Hey, Farty Face:

Do you know me?

—Jack Shit


Yeah we met at that gay pride parade. TOOOT TOOOT

Farty Face

  

Jack Shit

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 4:05 PM

No, Farty Face. I'm afraid you don't know Jack Shit.

Jack Shit

  

Farty Face

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 6:52 PM

HI JACK SHIT. My name is "homosexual faggot who makes retarded puns and thinks hes funny but really everyone makes fun of him because he is a pathetic loser and really has no point at all except for the fact that he shits his own face when hes talking and thinks its actually words coming out of his facehole but really its just feces and penis breath"

Do you know me?


Farty Face

  

Jack Shit