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Brian the Snorf

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 12:58 AM

Did he talk about this on last night's show? I missed it.

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FDA Rejects Over-Counter Sales of 'Plan B' Pill

The Food and Drug Administration announces it will not approve the sale of "emergency contraception" without a prescription. The contraceptive, a version of the so-called "morning-after" pill known as Plan B, was approved in 1999 by the FDA, but only with a doctor's prescription. In rejecting over-the-counter sales, the agency went against the recommendations of its own advisory panel.

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1875868
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Also, considering how this was shot down by conservatives, I really don't understand how Drew can so obviously be a Republican voter. But I can't judge. Can't judge.

-Snorf

Brian the Snorf

  

Adam's Crows

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 1:43 AM

I did not hear if he spoke of this. I am unable to listen constantly from beg. to end.

I was surprized it made it this far anyway considering the trend. It does irritate me that they actually went against their advisory recommendation. That smacks of personal bias vs. science and sound logic.

There are many shades between conservatives and liberals. Bush and the right wing conservatives are the extreme. There are still many reasonable positions within the republican view. It undermines a democratic system when a minority extreme dominates the party and forces moderates to abandon the party in order to counter damages. If the democrats can't produce a worthy candidate the country is in dire trouble.

I'd like to see Rudy Giuliani as president but that scenario is at least 4 years away if ever. He is in prime shape today. The guy is honest and independent. He will speak his mind and vote his conscience regardless of the status quo. He has a good heart and strong mind.

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Brian the Snorf

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:14 AM
Edited Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:17 AM

There are many shades between conservatives and liberals. Bush and the right wing conservatives are the extreme. There are still many reasonable positions within the republican view.

Fair enough. But I have heard Drew (and Adam) support Bush before, saying that they would vote for him again, etc. Which is fine, but then Drew shouldn't be surprised if and when things like this happen. He needs to "deal with reality on reality's terms".

-Snorf

Brian the Snorf

  

Adam's Crows

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:22 AM
Edited Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:27 AM

I don't know if Drew is surprized as much as he is just fed up or flabbergasted. I said I was surprized. As on target as Adam is about his take on life I would not rely on his judgement when it came to voting. He makes a lot of sense when being satirical but the closer he comes to actually doing something concrete the more the loser of Adam's pre-literally-a-millionaire days shows through. I don't think Adam votes.

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atramors

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 7:20 AM

Yeah, I was surprised they didn't mention this either.. although they might not have heard yet.

Ditto that (from what I've heard) they haven't said much/anything about the HIV problem in the porn industry right now..

atramors

  

Dark Laith

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 7:33 AM

But I have heard Drew (and Adam) support Bush before, saying that they would vote for him again, etc.

Are you sure? I've heard Adam call Bush an idiot on at least a couple of occasions.

Dark Laith

  

horndog

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 7:44 AM

It's this issue that keeps me from being a Republican. We need to spead all forms of birth control to keep American strong (or in this case finally make it strong for the first time) because breeding should ONLY be for superior people. That's why I will only have a serious longterm relationship and eventually children with a superior girl of my own genetic type. That's why I always make sure the girls I'm currently sleeping with are on the pill, because where I live right now there are no smart superior chicks. ANd if these skanks happen to get pregnant by me, I want them to have access to cheap safe abortions. No way I'm paying to raise some inferior, white trash chick's rugrat.

Like I said, if it wasn't for that, I'd be all over the GOP like a dog in heat. They support the corporate structure that allows people like me to prosper. So for now I'm going Libertarian. Free market and corporate domination are conducive to the rise and rule of truly superior breeds like me.

horndog

  

piesore

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 8:32 AM

Yeah, I thought Adam didn't vote for Bush, don't know who he ended up voting for, and has called him a tard, but has also said he thinks he's done better than expected. But I think I might be getting him confused with Phil Hendrie.

piesore

  

puck71

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 1:27 PM

This was just in my paper this morning, so it's possible he hadn't heard about it yet. You know he'll say something about it on Sunday though. Between that and the mediocre NY Minute review, I think Drew would explode if he went on the air tonight!

puck71

  

horndog

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 1:32 PM
Edited Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:12 PM

Why would Drew explode about the shitty reviews his shitty movie got? What do you expect when you get a bit part in a crap formulaic flick designed to showcase the latest flash in the pan twin freak show bitches? Does Drew seriously expect good reviews? Is he a phony or a delusional dick or an arrogant Hollywood wannabe who can't tolerate simple (and well-deserved) criticism of schlock? Are we supposed to make an exception because it's HIM? Drew needs to grow up and realize that crap gets crap reviews. He ain't Midas transforming turd into gold.

horndog

  

Cracked

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 5:38 PM

Did the review diss Drew or the movie? Not much should have been expected of the movie even if Drew thought it was "cute." The Olsen twins can't act. I saw a clip of Darrell Hammond and the writing was not even funny. It reminded me of a bad television movie of the week. What a waste of talent.

I think Adam, and maybe Drew also, knock everything stupid that everyone does. Bush certainly has plenty of material to bag on.

Cracked

  

Brian the Snorf

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 6:59 PM
Edited Friday, May 7, 2004 at 7:04 PM

Are you sure? I've heard Adam call Bush an idiot on at least a couple of occasions.

Well, I've heard Adam rag on Bush, call him a dullard and such (no surprise there), but even then Drew was sort of defending Bush, saying "well, he's not book-smart" or something. And Adam said (on that same show in mid-December I believe) that "I have no problem with Bush, I'll probably vote for him again" or something along those lines.

I always figured that Adam is able to look beyond his somewhat socially liberal values and vote conservative anyway because he wants to hang onto his literal millions. :-) But Drew seems so passionate about getting this morning-after pill over-the-counter, you know, so I can't really see how he'll vote for someone whose wing of the Republican party is so diametrically opposed to it.

Either way, I think it'd be cool if one of us calls in on Sunday to ask him about it...

Brian the Snorf

  

Adam's Crows

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Friday, May 7, 2004 at 7:51 PM
Edited Friday, May 7, 2004 at 7:54 PM

I probably missed those comments myself. I miss a few segments or portions if I am able to catch the show. I'm encouraged hearing that Adam may have voted. I did not think he participated.... just complained. I don't know if Drew would make the election about a single issue. That is what people do with abortion. They don't care about anything else. If Osama Bin Laden were able to run for US president and was anti-abortion, the Christian right-wing would vote for him if running against any pro-choice candidate including God and Jesus. :-)

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puck71

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 6:34 AM

No, the review didn't actually mention Drew, but it did say something about Andy Richter humiliating himself with a fake accent. Anyway, even if it doesn't mention him and even though he only has a bit part, he was in the movie and he does have a tendency to get emotional about things he's involved in...

puck71

  

Leif

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 11:30 AM

This story was on the front page of the Los Angeles Times on Friday. There was a follow-up article in the paper today, as well as an editorial. I will be shocked and disappointed if Drew doesn't bring it up first thing on Sunday night. There's also an AP story worth reading.

Here is my favorite passage from the L.A. Times article:

Pitts declined to respond to allegations — made by those who want to see the drug more widely available — that FDA staff members were called to the White House to discuss the Plan B application.

Concerned Women for America and the Family Research Council, both of which strongly opposed the proposal, praised the decision.

"The FDA is right to be cautious about making a potent drug that can harm women available next to candy bars and toothpaste," said Wendy Wright, senior policy director at Concerned Women for America, a public policy organization. "The morning-after pill is a pedophile's best friend."

The Family Research Council said the FDA had put "the safety of American women and girls above the wishes of the pro-abortion lobby."

As noted before in this forum, Drew's celebration of the FDA recommendation was a bit premature. IMHO, Drew seems naive and uninformed when it comes to news and politics -- or anything non-medical, really. While I'm certain he buries his nose in JAMA, I can't picture Drew taking much time to really read the news beyond the headlines... not because Adam has convinced Drew that reading poisons the mind; but because being informed takes time, and Drew is a very busy person. He has said that he couldn't bring himself to take time out to play golf! Can anyone picture him sitting down for serious time with the morning paper?

On the other hand, this is his issue; it strikes me that Drew has a responsibility to be informed about it. This news should not come as a surprise to Dr. Drew, but it probably will. When the FDA advisory panel voted overwhelming in favor of making the MAP available OTC, the only people who voted against it were Bush appointees. Shocking! Keep on blindly voting Republican, Dr. Pinsky. Four more years! Good times.

Further reading (AlterNet):

Leif

  

Adam's Crows

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:32 PM
Edited Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:34 PM

Andy Richter should be happy he has work. His claim to fame has been pure promotion in a string of bad performances. I don't know if he would be funny if it changed but with his voice the words seem to be in his nose. I have not seen anything worthy of the attention that he has received. He was just the guy at the end of the couch on Conan that offered nothing. All of the sudden he pops up in movies and even gets a TV show. His talent did not grab the attention, it was all hype.

The scenes with Drew are mostly done individually. There is very little of the people he has scenes with reciting lines in front of the camera to one another. They clearly had to isolate each actor(?) when they said their lines because they could not pull off a conversation.

Ebert & Roeper both gave it thumbs down.

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Jeremy

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 5:35 PM

I saw New York Minute today, and Andy Richter's performance just annoyed the hell out of me. The Chinese accent was just stupid, and completely unnecessary.

Jeremy

  

puck71

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Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 7:25 AM

I dunno...I liked Andy on Conan, but haven't really watched him in anything since he left.

puck71

  

Leif

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Monday, May 10, 2004 at 11:03 PM

It was good to hear Drew pissed about this tonight (he did get at least one detail wrong, though). And a good, cathartic Carolla rant, too. I think this is the first time Drew didn't say "feel better?" in response to an anti-Bush attack from Adam. Good times.

Leif

  

GDG

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 1:36 AM

Drew and Adam a lot of the time are reacting to the dominant thoughts in local LA politcs which happens to be preominantly Democratic. The Republicans in California are far more business conservatives (less taxes, less gov't programs) not religious conservatives. (like they are in the South or in the White House)

GDG

  

stass

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 5:44 PM

yeah but still...

stass

  

ZT-In-Recovery

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Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 6:25 AM

IMHO, Drew seems naive and uninformed when it comes to news and politics -- or anything non-medical, really. While I'm certain he buries his nose in JAMA, I can't picture Drew taking much time to really read the news beyond the headlines... not because Adam has convinced Drew that reading poisons the mind; but because being informed takes time, and Drew is a very busy person. He has said that he couldn't bring himself to take time out to play golf! Can anyone picture him sitting down for serious time with the morning paper? —Leif

VERY TRUE.

BTW: LEIF = MASTERMIND.

ZT-In-Recovery

  

Dusty TheHick

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Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 6:12 PM

True story?

Dusty TheHick

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