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F-word gets through on JKL

  

steve

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Friday, March 26, 2004 at 9:41 PM

Holy Christ! The f-word just got through on Jimmy Kimmel Live! The guy who was slapped by Richard Simmons was using a string of expletives which all got edited. He paused and Jimmy asked, "So what did you say to him?", to which he replies, "You shouldn't have fuckin' slapped me." Jimmy, assuming that that line had been edited replies, "Yes, 'You shouldn't have blanking slapped me.'" But the f-word wasn't edited -- goodtimes!

steve

  

Puff

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Friday, March 26, 2004 at 10:09 PM

Dammit! I heard it too. First Stern will be taken off, now Jimmy. Probably Loveline next. But that bitch Oprah be talkin about her salad-tossing shit all during the daytime and doesn't get anything said to her. Damned censorship.

Puff

  

Jeremy

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 12:04 AM

JKL is on at midnight. The FCC can't do anything.

Jeremy

  

Cracked

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 7:59 AM
Edited Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 7:59 AM

"Can't" to the lower 75% of the population means "won't" ....whether the FCC does anything remains to be seen. They certainly can do something. "Fuck" is obviously one of the words that cannot be used on a regular network broadcast.

Cracked

  

dr ipod

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 8:26 AM

The F word gets out sometimes, but they always bleep it off the other feeds, it's only the East Coast getting it. Kimmel has never been in trouble before and it's slipped. I doubt anything will happen now.

The best was when he used to do something or show something and that big ABC logo would pop up..That always cracked me up for some reason.

dr ipod

  

everybody has warts

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 12:54 PM

"Kimmel has never been in trouble before and it's slipped. I doubt anything will happen now."


:O

http://www.stopfcc.com/

everybody has warts

  

nickvelk

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 2:52 PM

This is kinda off topic, but it relates to JKL, so I thought I would post it here.

Does Jake Bird(sp?), the Michael Jackson supporter who shows up to all those rallies, work for the show? The bits were funny for a while but are just lame now.

Just curious.

Thanks and GT.
~Nick

nickvelk

  

Kevin U.

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 4:56 PM

I've wondered about Jake Bird too; I am pretty sure that the first few times they showed him, it was unplanned - but then they had him in the audience during one show, and I think they they must have some sort of arrangement with him now. He's mildly funny, but you are right, his bits are getting a little old. At least its not 100% Cousin Sal's hidden camera - at one point I was afraid that the show was turning into a cruel version of Candid Camera.

Kevin U.

  

Jimmy Kimmel Fan

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 7:34 PM

Jake is actually Tony Barbieri. He's a writer on JKL and was Mole in Windy City Heat.

Jimmy Kimmel Fan

  

dr ipod

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 8:20 PM

Yeah, that Jake Bird shit is totally lame.

Jimmy Kimmel is one of the best shows on TV, though. It made me completely stop watching Conan.

Windy City Heat needs to come out on DVD, AHHH!!!

dr ipod

  

steve

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Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 11:05 PM

Yeah, I'd like to say 'what you guys just said' and thank you for supporting Michael Jackson.

steve

  

Bad Directions

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Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 5:40 AM

The FCC is on a crusade against radio. Period. Television, as instanced by more than one event (Bono, Janet, this), will not be touched. Why? I have no idea. But the FCC seems to have a raging hard-on for fucking with radio.

Bad Directions

  

agl

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Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 3:05 PM
Edited Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 3:06 PM

The FCC won't and can't do anything. The F-word is indecent but not obscene, and indecent language is allowed on broadcast TV after 10pm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_v._Pacifica_Foundation
http://www.fcc.gov/parents/content.html

After 10pm the networks usually censor the F-word themselves mainly because they don't want to offend viewers and (more importantly) advertisers.

agl

  

nickvelk

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Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 8:16 PM

>Jimmy Kimmel Fan said:
>Jake is actually Tony Barbieri. He's a writer on JKL and was Mole in Windy City Heat.

I thought he looked familiar. Didn't he do bits on the Man Show too?

nickvelk

  

Jimmy Kimmel Fan

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Monday, March 29, 2004 at 1:48 PM
Edited Monday, March 29, 2004 at 1:48 PM

>I thought he looked familiar. Didn't he do bits on the Man Show too?

I can't remember any bits that he was in off the top of my head, but he was a writer for the show, so it's quite possible.

Jimmy Kimmel Fan

  

roadrage

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Monday, March 29, 2004 at 3:06 PM

Utah has no respect for JKL. They air the show between 2:30 and 3:00 a.m. or whenever they run out of stupid ass paid programming. I finally watched my recording of this episode. I was totally expecting to have the entire segment bleeped. I mean, this is Utah! What else could I expect?

I couldn't believe my ears! The F-word came through unscathed! The guy's two previous comments were completely bleeped, but not that last one.

roadrage

  

steve

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Monday, March 29, 2004 at 10:04 PM

Anyone notice the 'TV14' logo that JKL's running after coming back from every commercial break?

steve

  

Kevin U.

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Monday, March 29, 2004 at 10:12 PM

Haven't seen that steve... I'm guessing it's your local affiliate (is the channel number 14?) putting their logo on the show.

Kevin U.

  

steve

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Monday, March 29, 2004 at 10:49 PM

Kevin... I have two things to say to you... How dare you?!?... and... Oh, you get the point. ;)

JKL airs on channel 25 / cable 13 here. The TV14 is the MPAA-style rating implying that this particular program is inappropriate for viewers under the age of 14 due to language, adult themes, etc.

steve

  

dr ipod

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Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 3:07 AM

Actually I just noticed that they're coming up after every commercial breka here too. It's only like 3 seconds. Oh well..It *is* ABC.

dr ipod

  

Cracked

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Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 5:28 AM

"...The F-word is indecent but not obscene, and indecent language is allowed on broadcast TV after 10pm." -agl

agl,

If "FUCK" was allowed you would hear people using more often than a rare slip through the cracks.

Maybe the banjo music is distracting your ability to think.

Cracked

  

Kevin U.

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Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 3:48 PM

steve - sorry, I misread your post... now I know what you are talking about, although I haven't noticed it yet - but it's probably there on mine too.

Kevin U.

  

ZT

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Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 4:14 PM

Crackie-poo, he's right about the media censorship regulations. The reason why you don't hear people saying fuck more often is because the current corporate thinking is that too much profanity will turn people off, and they won't watch. For the most part, they're right. Yes, there are the occasional exceptions, like South Park, and the like.

So, it's more "corporate" censorship than "government" censorship. Although, the lines become blurred from time to time.

ZT

  

Cracked

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Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 11:54 PM
Edited Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 11:55 PM

ZIT-

You are a tard if you believe that is the reason we don't hear FUCK used on network television during any hour.

South Park is on cable, which is a different ballgame.

Cracked

  

ZT

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Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 12:52 AM

Cable plays by the same rules as network television, for the most part. Of course, theres cheesecake porn and stuff on cinemax, and whatever. But, really, ask anyone else whose in television or radio, and they'll all tell you the same thing.

ZT

  

roadrage

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Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 1:07 AM

I could've sworn Adam & Dr. Drew talked about this last week. They agreed that rules for cable TV are not as stringent as those for network TV. A lot of stuff is aired on cable shows that would be censored on network.

roadrage

  

agl

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Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 1:08 AM

Cracked,

If cable is such a different ballgame, then why don't we hear FUCK used on basic cable every hour? Remember: basic cable networks are NOT obligated by law to censor indecent language, so why (with very rare exception) do they?

agl

  

ZT

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Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 1:29 AM

roadrage - it depends on what "rules" your talking about. If you mean "rules" in terms of what the laws are -- yes, cable is much less restrictive. If you mean "rules" in terms of what networks believe makes them them most money, then no. The majority of cable television follows the same restrictions that broadcast stations do, not because they have to, but because they think it improves raitings.

Like I said, there are exceptions to the rule, but 90% of the time, that's how it works.

ZT

  

Cracked

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Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 11:55 PM
Edited Thursday, April 1, 2004 at 12:48 AM

I have not said anything about hearing it every hour, however, you will find FUCK every Sunday night watching HBO's Sopranos you will NEVER hear it on network television. The Sopranos is, one of, if not, the most popular TV show on cable! If something sells that well you would see people trying it if it were allowed. Look at all the cookie cutter copycat shows trying to duplicate proven success. The only reason The Osbornes is censored is because the demographic audience includes kids. The Sopranos' demographic is an adult audience and HBO is a prime cable channel. NYPD Blue, and plenty of the cop/lawyer/CSI shows would throw in some FUCK language if it were allowed. It is acceptible to show male ass on network television but it isn't okay to say FUCK or else you would see it routinely.

Cracked

  

dr ipod

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Thursday, April 1, 2004 at 1:39 AM

Actually there's absolutely no commercial advertisers affiliated with HBO, and that's why you hear FUCK etc etc on there and not on Comedy Central. That's why the whole shit episode was allowed to happen on South Park. Fact of the matter is they're allowed to say and do what they want but they're advertisement driven. And like 3-5 companies own all the companies advertising today, so pissing off one or two of them is definitely not a good idea for a cable station.

dr ipod

  

agl

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Thursday, April 1, 2004 at 11:50 PM
Edited Friday, April 2, 2004 at 12:39 AM

Cracked,

I'm not sure what the point you are trying to make is. My point was to show that basic cable networks censor "fuck" not because they are obligated to by law, but because of business reasons (namely, they do not want to offend their audience).

Therefore, it is reasonable to think that broadcast networks also censor "fuck" when they are not obligated to, and that they do this for similar business reasons. If you follow the links I posted in a previous message you'll plainly see that the FCC cannot currently fine a broadcast network for letting "fuck" on the air between 10pm and 6am.

I'm guessing that you might be thinking that TV networks also practice self-censorship for fear that if they let things go too far, Congress might react by passing legislation that would give the FCC authorization to start fining cable networks or broadcast networks after 10pm. If this is what you were getting at, you'd be right. Actually, this is very close to happening now. Last week a bill giving the FCC the authority to police cable TV was narrowly defeated, and a bill is still pending that would make it illegal to say "fuck" or other profanity on broadcast television (and radio) at any time.

agl

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