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sean

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 at 12:03 PM

i know, you think im crazy, but i called up my local radio station, and aparently no one is listening to it, im like how is that possible, every1 i know listens to it, and i require it to sleep, but he responded with, sry its cancled, but, i need a place to get all the shows for free on tape or cd so i can sleep at night it fuckin sux

sean

  

steve

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 at 10:23 PM

When my local station cancelled Loveline back in 2002, I too was told that it was due to poor ratings. It was promptly replaced with new rock (!) like Metallica's "Enter Sandman" (1990) and Alice in Chains' "Man in the Box" (1989). Not being someone who listens to corporate radio (with the obvious exception of Loveline), I've often wondered just where these ratings are pulled from -- I mean, how do they track who is listening to what and for how long, etc.? I find it hard to put any real faith in the accuracy of these numbers.

steve

  

ZT

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Friday, March 5, 2004 at 1:46 AM

Steve - From the arbitrons. See thread: http://www.dolland.net/loveline/forum/archive/2004/02/threads/12593.html

Yeah, I pretty much never listen to "corporate" radio unless I'm listening to loveline. Have you ever thought of starting your own station?

ZT

  

steve

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Friday, March 5, 2004 at 4:23 PM

Look at this disclaimer that Arbitron runs:

The estimates provided by Arbitrends v1.4 are derived from the diaries that provide the data in the Radio Market Report and are subject to the limitations stated in that report. Due to these limitations, inherent in Arbitron's methodology, the accuracy of Arbitron audience estimates cannot be determined to any precise mathematical value or definition.

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about -- this is all bullshit. They have no idea what anyone is listening to. This is all fucking hearsay. Their 'methodology' is basically, "Well, we took a couple of online polls and sent out a few surveys here and there and so on and so forth." They have no way of physically monitoring what people are listening to -- with the exception of the internet of course, which they don't seem to be using. I'm so goddamn sick of corporate america.

steve

  

steve

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Friday, March 5, 2004 at 4:26 PM

P.S. ZT -- How do you start a radio station? Is it completely unrealistic, or could a few bright kids like us here at the forum actually do something like that?

steve

  

Jeremy

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Friday, March 5, 2004 at 6:37 PM

It's not all that difficult to start a small pirate station. It's even less difficult to start an Internet streaming station.

Jeremy

  

Angel

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 at 1:11 AM

I am glad I had a chance to fill out an Arbitran diary last year
because I logged Loveline. I hope it helped. I listen to it every night it airs here in Cincinnati on 97.3 FM, New Rock 97.3.
They run it on a broadcast day tape delay from 10 p.m. - midnight
E.S.T. Sunday thru Thursday.

I really don't understand why it doesn't have good ratings in your area. It is an excellent show. Maybe it's the time it was airing in your market. I know the station that ran it prior to WAQZ in Cincinnati aired it live which means we heard it from 1:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. I can see where some of the audience it targets might not have heard it during those time slots.

I hope someone else in your market decides to air it.

Angel

  

puck71

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Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 8:57 PM

I had a chance to do an Arbitron book awhile ago too, and it was actually during the short time we had Loveline locally. I logged them every night, along with the random listening I do during the day. I wish I could say it helped, but the station changed format soon after and no more Loveline. Not because of bad ratings, but I guess the new Jazz station didn't think it fit their programming. I e-mailed the new New Rock station in town soon after, and I guess they passed on it because it didn't really fit their format (not enough music?) but then they decided to get Bob & Tom in the morning, so I'm not sure what's up with that.

puck71

  

th3thirdman

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Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 10:35 PM

arbitron is all polling. they did a test 20 or three years ago where they but boxs on 10000 peoples radios thats would log what they had on. but what the box said and what the poll said was so far apartits not funny. shows like stern and loveline
had the best ratings whit the box and music what alwasy last.in the polls said the people always had music on and only talk once a week or so. I DO NOT WORD FOR arbitron

th3thirdman

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