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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 6:49 PM I think Adam distorts the truth quite a bit when it comes to his life and feelings about himself. For anyone to rise from such a crap existence that he complains of he has managed to create a charmed life for himself. You don't do this if your outlookk is total s**t. You have to have a high enough knowledge (not just opinion of thought) of yourself. You have to like yourself and even love yourself to like and love other people and for them to do the same for you so they open up opportunities to you. Someone with a dismal outlook can't create or take advantage of anything. They just recreate dismal experiences. That is all they know. So Adam is a major whiner -but we all know that as funny rants. He is fortunate that people find his complaining funny. Sell your misery and make a million. An ingenius plan. I wish we could gather ourselves and create something to build a happier future. Actually, SV has taken a step in that direction with this forum and we that participate are contributing to it as well. So thanks especially to SV. —Cracked |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:15 PM Shut the fuck up. What you just posted is total and complete drivel. Go away. —Jeremy |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:20 PM Jeremy with his dismal outlook can't create or take advantage of anything. Jeremy just recreates dismal experiences. That is all he knows. —Cracked |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:27 PM Cracked, listen to the early loveline episodes with Adam (circa 1993). Quite a different sounding Adam (although the themes are still there). —greenhornet |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:36 PM
Edited Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:43 PM greenhornet- please summarize what is different in a few sentences. I listened back then but do not remember enough to see what you are referring to. What is your point? BTW my original post does consist of some drivel however Jeremy is one of the posters on this forum that must rip at people who he does not agree with. He cannot allow me to have an alternate opinion. My words hit home with him. I am correct in my general observation of people although I may not know the things you are referring to and can be wrong about Adam specifically. —Cracked |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:41 PM Drew has said before that Adam's intensity is real but what he says is exaggerated. —Jake |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:48 PM
Edited Friday, February 6, 2004 at 10:49 PM Jake- So do you believe Adam can be as successful in his career truly believing he is shit? Is Drew saying that Adam is angry but the circumstances and details are not as bad as Adam describes? This is what I am saying as well. It isn't being mad that will prevent turning your life around it is feeling like you are shit. That is what Adam does not believe about himself. He feels better about himself than what his parent's treatment and environment could convince him of. He feels he is better than the shit around him. —Cracked |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 11:46 PM
Edited Friday, February 6, 2004 at 11:47 PM I cannot allow you to have an alternate opinion? What am I doing, deleting your posts? Come on now. I don't "allow" you to do anything on this site. —Jeremy |
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Friday, February 6, 2004 at 11:47 PM I don't believe Adma thinks he is shit or ever was shit. He thinks his old life was crappy and had little faith in his family creating oppourtinities for him. He never really had much in the way of oppourtunities until he met up with Jimmy. He complains about his parents because even though he loved them they were useless as parents and provided little oppourtunity and example for him. As for distorting the truth: everybody does that now and then when they try to make a point. I think it's obvious that when Adam says his dad only spent $900 dollars raising him its a distortion. His outlook on the future was never a bad one it was his perception of the present that wasn't so great, and rightly so. —Meatwad |
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Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 12:20 AM "Shut the fuck up. What you just posted is total and complete drivel. Go away... ...I cannot allow you to have an alternate opinion? What am I doing, deleting your posts? Come on now. I don't "allow" you to do anything on this site." -Jeremy Jeremy, Hey, if you can’t see your own objection to my words and that you are shooting me down, you are pretty ignorant and blind to yourself. You don't need to have the power to expose your intent however futile it may be.
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Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 12:33 AM Shooting you down is not the same as not allowing you to have an opinion. Get over yourself. —Jeremy |
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Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 12:37 AM I second what Meatwad says -- Adam has complained incessantly about his upringing and/or surroundings -- he's never complained about himself. Not to launch into a ten page disertation on zen here, but some people don't associate that heavily with the ego -- meaning, if they say, "Oh, my life sucks so bad.", what they're actually saying is, "My friends, my job, my house, my car, et.al, suck so bad." -- They're not saying "I" suck so bad. When people don't associate with the ego, self esteem isn't an issue -- for example: A thousand people can line up and tell me I suck. This won't have any negative effect on me. Likewise, a thousand people can line up and tell me I'm the greatest thing the world's ever known. This too, will have absolutely no effect on me, because I simply know who I am. I know what my strengths are, I know what my weakness are -- my opinions aren't swayed by external stimuli. On another note, I completely agree on your "people with dismal outlooks" theory. Some people contribute nothing but aggression and hostility to life, and then turn around and wonder why it seems like every other person they meet hates them. It may sound pollyanna-ish, but you get out of life what you put into it. If you spend all your time acting like a miserable fucking prick -- guess what? -- people are gonna treat you like you're a miserable fucking prick. I mean, here's the deal everybody -- we're all human beings and we're all gonna die -- we might as well make the most of it while we're here. —steve |
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Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 1:16 AM
Edited Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 1:20 AM Steve- so true, there are probably two types of people (in this respect) those that feel that they are responsible for their problems and those that feel their problems are outside of themselves. Now within each of these are probably several variations as well, for example, some that blame and some that see that it is not necessariliy anyone's fault ...just to name one variation within those that see things outside themselves. Adam rarely blames himself for anything when he is ranting. Jeremy- people will dissect their behavior into the finest layers in order to distinguish themselves as right. It is a pretty thin defense saying that "shooting (me) down is not the same as not allowing (me) to have an opinion" Your behavior demonstrates an attempt to do just that no matter how you word an obscure technicality. —Cracked |
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Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 8:54 AM Cracked? Yes, indeed you are. —Josh |
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Saturday, February 7, 2004 at 9:51 AM Those are Deep Thoughts, my friend. Tell me, Cracked, have you, like Adam, truly learned to love yourself? Why don't you try just liking yourself and go on from there? Perhaps you could give yourself a little hug and a gentle, sensual massage (I recommend the genital area for this exercise in self-loving, which I think is particularly appropriate in this context). Remember: The path to material success and spiritual fulfillment lies in discovering that, deep down, you're good enough, you're smart enough, and gosh darn it, people LIKE you! —Jacob Creutzfeldt |
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Sunday, February 8, 2004 at 1:57 AM
Edited Sunday, February 8, 2004 at 2:06 AM Adam did not have to learn to love himself. He always has. He has also maintained a long and stable relationship. He paints a picture of having come through equally rough times but all along has been much healthier than most Loveline callers. There are actually three categories in the context described earlier: 1) those that externalize, 2) those that internalize and 3) those that can only react and are not able to conceptualize either internally or externally and are permanently caught in the twilight zone of perpetual masturbation. Much like a dog that humps everyone's leg -no imagination, no intellect, no soul. —Cracked |
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Sunday, February 8, 2004 at 6:28 AM Someday, I hope Adam publishes an autobiography. If you ask me, Adam just has uncanny intution, which I think accounts for most of his success. He seems to avoid the common traps other people fall in too, and it seems to be thats largely because hes able to seperate BS from truth. If I had to guess, I'd say thats something that can from being neglected -- but won't always. Those people aren't indoctrinated in to a certian way of thinking at birth. Of course, being neglected has other less desirable consequences. A friend of mine, terminal, reminds me a lot of Adam sometimes -- except Irish instead of Italian and on Effexor instead of Vicodin... Anyways, from what I know he had a similar kind of upbringing, and also is pretty good at summing people up. His blog has taken a down turn either since he started taking Effexor, or after he moved to back to Colorado... or BOTH!!! But starting back around here its all good. He'll probably see the references from this page, and kiss me or fuck me or punch me. I just hope it puts pictures up. —ZT |
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Sunday, February 8, 2004 at 6:40 AM Yeah, as a neglected teen, Adam must have spent a lot of time in his own head, mulling over the things that most people take for granted. And no doubt that fact that his parents were psychologists and he was going to psych sessions since his teenage years gave him a lot of insight. Another interesting facet to Adam is his blue-collar years: Most psychologists live in tidy suburbs and spend their entire careers dealing mostly with middle-class neurotics, so they're clueless about how most of us really live. Adam has dwelt long among the hoi polloi and thus can offer insight into our way of thinking and behaving. —Jacob Creutzfeldt |
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Sunday, February 8, 2004 at 4:26 PM Cracked -- You definitely hit the nail on the head with your last post. That's completely true. Jacob -- I think that's probably right on the money -- unlike most obnoxious celebrities Adam has always been and will always be a "real" person regardless of the fact that he's "literally a millionaire". Having spent the majority of his life working food service, construction and cleaning carpets, he seems to have developed a geniune appreciation of things that most rich people don't have. One of my favourite quotes on Adam's past:
"Hey the Carollas aren't exactly over-achievers -- We're fine with a "D" average." —steve |
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Sunday, February 8, 2004 at 5:05 PM Thanks, Steve. As someone who has worked in all three industries (food service, construction, even carpet cleaning) I know EXACTLY whereof Adam speaks. I admire the guy, even though I sometimes get annoyed when he lapses into blowhard mode. But I still appreciate the fact that he's the only REAL working-class guy with national coverage on TV and radio. Us working-class folk don't get any real voice in the national media. (And no, Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern, and Bill O'Reilly are NOT real working-class guys and don't really represent our point of view. Adam is the first--and ONLY!--person in the national media who even comes close.) —Jacob Creutzfeldt |
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